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    Important Issues/Considerations Before Ordering Your Corvette

    So many exciting decisions before you order! Working through this thread will help get your car as you want it, in a realistic time. It was written to help you learn of critical issues you need to address before you order your car, and also yet very helpful for those who have already placed their order. My apologies for the length of this thread, but so many things to consider. Also please note that if you are experienced in ordering a Corvette in times of greater demand than supply, just want a refresher thread, this linked one is a great one:


    However, if you want much more ordering information, and/or this Corvette ordering is a new process to you, I recommend you also read this entire one. Thank you.

    EXCELLENT MidEngineCorvetteForum (MECF) DEALERS:

    We are so fortunate to have honest, pleasant, capable and trustworthy forum dealers. All are selling the C8 at MSRP. We thank, in the order they joined the forum as a “Forum Featured Vendor,” Criswell, MacMulkin, Kerbeck, Suburban, Uftring, Weber, Boardwalk and Les Stanford Chevrolet. All have their own sections on the home page!

    I. Things to evaluate before you walk into a dealership include:

    A) CHOOSING YOUR OPTIONS: This includes: mechanical/performance; exterior and interior color, interior trim level; coupe or convertible top color, etc.

    This is the latest Order Guide to help you choose your C8’s options.

    Note please, as this is an older one and we are expecting the new 2021 one in the next couple of weeks.

    Introductory notes:

    The order guide pages open up to different sections and once you open up a section, immediately and every time look at the upper right of the page to insure you are continuing to build your chosen model; in not, just click on that box and select your model. Again, this will need to be done on every single different page.

    Once you have chosen your model, colors and all other options, two remaining key issues face you. They are choosing your dealer and checking whether anything you are wanting is a “constrained” option.

    B) CONSTRAINTS: Evaluation of "your chosen options" in relationship to "constraints":

    Much of the time, you get your Corvette exactly the way you want. However, at certain times, there are part "constraints." This occurs most often when a new "generation" of Corvettes is introduced, when a new model year has started, and/or when special "limited production" models or options are introduced. These constraints occur usually because GM is introducing something new and has underestimated "customer demand," or because of limited parts’ supplier capability. Another reason for a constraint occurs when a "supplier part" is unexpectedly rejected by GM for quality reasons or supplier specific issues at that time.

    Having selected your desired Corvette’s parts/options, please review the current list of constrained parts. They come and go, i.e., one week a part can surprisingly show up on the constraint list, and just as surprisingly, could be removed. No one knows how long each constraint will be. The constraint list is usually updated each Thursday (when GM usually accepts new orders).

    What is a constraint? How does it work?

    Here is our linked weekly constraint thread, specifically updated weekly, thanks to Mike Furman of Criswell Chevrolet, the # 3 Corvette dealer, and MECF’s first vendor. Criswell has since been joined as a MECF supporting vendor by the # 2 dealership in the country, MacMulkin, and # 1 dealership, Kerbeck Corvette. We are very proud that we also have Suburban (OR), Uftring (IL), Weber (IL), Boardwalk (CA) and Les Stanford (MI). All of them are honest, treat customers with respect, and charge MSRP from the very beginning of a highly sought after new generation Corvette, then do same for subsequent additional Corvette models within a generation,.

    All MECF dealerships vendors can be reached/found in their own "Vendor Section.”

    To learn the latest constraints, please visit here (a site that is updated every new, usually-weekly, consensus.

    Below is the best explanation of how to read this constraint chart, though in the specific example, as you can see the “0%” under the constraints listing, there were no constraints that particular consensus.

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    Thanks to “rdslon01” we have an outstanding explanation of how to read/understand a week constraint print out.

    Originally posted by rdslon01
    Constraint explanation:

    Each row represents a constraint. So, read each row. Some constraints will be applicable to the car you want to build; some rows will not be applicable because of one or more various reasons.

    Now, let's look at each column. The first column indicates which model is affected by the constraint.

    The second column gives you the date of the production week for which this constraint will be in effect. Note, that forward-looking date given is always on a Monday, and represents not just that Monday, but that whole production week.

    The third column is the unique internal code number which GM has assigned to that constraint. For example, GM's system knows the Carbon 65 Edition Constraint as constraint #689.

    The fourth column gives the model and/or RPO number(s) involved in a constraint. For example, Z30 is the RPO for the Carbon 65 Edition. The "&" means a logical "and" operator. It means both things must be true before the constraint is applied. The "/" is a logical "or" operator. It means an order with either one can have the constraint applied. For example, 1YW07/1YW67 &J56 means if you order model 1YW07 with the J56 code, OR if you order model 1YW67 with the J56 code, then that constraint line applies. What is 1YW07? You have to look it up at 1YW07 means the Grand Sport Coupe. 1YW67 means the Grand Sport Convertible. By digging around in the order guide linked above, one can eventually find that J56 is the RPO code for the "Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc" which comes "S" (standard) on the Grand Sport and Z06. By putting all of that together, you see that 1YW07/1YW67 &J56 means "Standard brakes on all Grand Sport models (both Coupes and Convertibles)". Oh, also, it has been a while since I have seen the following, but sometimes you may also see a "-" sign, which essentially means "except" or "minus". For example, 1YW07-J6F would mean "all Grand Sport Coupes except those with Red Painted Calipers". So, if you are getting red calipers, that line does not apply to you. If you are getting any car except a Grand Sport Coupe, then that line does not apply to you. The only people to which that line applies are those who want a Grand Sport Coupe with calipers any color other than red.

    The fifth column is a general written description of the fourth column. In the past I have seen its description in words not being quite as accurate and complete as the actual codes given in column number four. But, it is still useful for a quick glance.

    The sixth column is something that people often get confused about, even people who have been reading such tables for a long time. It gives the percentage of cars to be built during that constraint period which will be allowed to have the model/option combination which is constrained on that row.I have seen people say that it means the percentage of orders with that option which will be accepted - THIS IS NOT CORRECT.

    Constraint percentage is based on the parts they will have available to build cars during that future period divided by the total number they will build in that future period.

    Here is why. Consider that approximately 750 cars will be built in a certain period of time. Let's say the constraint is 6% (something like that can often happen with a new color, for example). That means that 750 X 6%=45 cars can be built in that time frame with that color. Let's say it is a color which is not in wide demand, and there are only 40 people nationwide during that ordering cycle who want to order that color. Then 100% of those orders can be accepted, assuming that the dealer with which each customer is working received enough of the available allocations permitted by the constraint percentage to give to their customer(s).

    The seventh column tells the current projection of when that constraint is expected to end.

    The eighth column tells the reason why this constraint is happening.
    Thank you again "rdslon01" for the above constraint understanding explanation,

    C) Corvette "Allocation": "Your Friend" Or "Your Regret"

    Allocation is a complicated system, whereby General Motors distributes to each Chevy dealership an amount of new Corvettes based on that dealership's previous model year sales of new Corvettes.

    Here is how it works: Based on comparative basis of last year's new Corvette sales by all dealerships, GM rewards the dealer that sold the most new Corvettes last year, with the highest allocation to receive/sell new Corvettes this year. This continues, to the next highest dealer, then the next one after that. To further complicate things, there are two distinct kinds of non-interchangeable allocations, either for a coupe OR for a convertible.

    We currently have one Corvette model, the 2020 Stingray coupe, though GM just announced last week that it will be joined at some point this year, with a 2020 Stingray HT convertible.

    ALLOCATION CONFIRMATION: So how do you learn about which dealership to select -- which ones have allocation?

    Private message “John,” for he will be able to find a dealer which then has C8 allocations to match with your C8 desires!

    Research! For most of us buying a new Corvette is one of the most expensive purchases we will make. Just as you spent hours scouring out which neighborhood to buy a house in, you need to do that same due diligence before selecting your dealership. One way is to talk to other current Corvettes owners in your area, especially those who have bought a new Corvette recently. Perhaps contact a local Corvette club. Also you could post your allocation questions on our forum, and you would learn which dealers to order from, who has allocation, who would charge way over list, who would treat you fair, etc.

    Optionally, just before you sign your order request and place your deposit, ask your dealer to show you they actually have a Corvette allocation before placing a deposit! How do you know that your dealer has allocation? To quote a top ten dealer, one who has a deserved reputation for integrity and honesty, "If the dealer is willing, he can provide you with a copy of his consensus report which clearly shows what he asked for and what he received. Then each week on Thursday, the dealer can share with you his weekly placement report. This report will show the allocation for the week and the constraints that apply."

    Dealers with allocation have nothing to hide, and if the dealer you are considering placing an order with will not show you documentation of their allocation, find another dealer, who with documented allocation, before placing your order.

    Forum dealership(s) treat their customers with respect! All are honest/no games! Criswell, MacMulkin, Kerbeck, and Suburban are all dealers I have personally worked with, and each time been treated with courtesy and “just the facts.” Same is accurately said of all the rest of our forum vendors!

    D) ORDER TIMING In Relationship To GM’s Order Acceptance:

    Intro: Before discussing details, it is critical to note that order status “2000” means that GM has accepted your order and has committed to building it as your dealer submitted it. Conversely, if your order status is less than 2000 (meaning it has not yet been accepted to by GM), it means close to nothing — as delineated below.

    Any GM vehicle order can be submitted by any dealer for any model at any time as long as GM had set up that new vehicle in its GM WorkBench Connect software ordering system. Note of caution: Even a dealer, even one who has not ever sold a Corvette and who has no chance of getting a first year C8 in a timely manner, could enter an order and have it immediately become status 1100.

    Please note that status 1100 is a necessary first step toward your order become a Corvette. However, while necessary, it is far from sufficient, in fact it could be as useless as you buying a Powerball ticket and in your mind figuring out how you are going to spend your winnings before that lottery is even drawn days from now.

    So what else is necessary for your order status to become an actual Corvette? Your dealer must have a GM granted allocation for the model/options you are seeking and your dealer must pair your order with their specific allocation (the old “takes two to tango”).


    Per Dave Salvatore, Corvette leader at Kerbeck: “Consensus where they tell us what we are getting and we agree to it, next week is the DSOP when we can actually order the cars.”

    What is “DSOP?”

    What is DSOP? We thank “Bahama Todd” for this explanation.

    ”The weekly process consists of 4 stages.

    1. Constraints Distribution - Dealers are informed on constraints to review before placing orders.
    2. Dealer Submission Order - Dealers can order on Thursday, Friday or no later than midnight on Saturday. ( You can submit orders earlier but you don't know the contraints. A Constraint is a limit placed on a specific build configuration )
    3. The 4-Pass Process - GM will attempt to place each dealers orders on Mondays using a 4-Pass process. ( At this point a dealer may get more or less than was allocated if they asked.)
    4. Dealer Review-You can review your placed orders for changes or replacements until Tuesday at 9pm ET. That's when the orders are sent for production.
    As I suspicioned with the past history during the4 C8 process of GM formally processi9ng order almost always starting on the third Thursday of the month, DOSP starts next Thursday.

    During DOSP orders go to status 2000 usually no later than Saturday night. They can be 3000 seconds after they hit 2000 status, a couple of days later or after that.

    Status 2000 is the golden package for that is when GM formally accepts the order as submitted and commits to building it as it was accepted.

    The date in which an order is initially entered into the software system, and becomes 1100 status is totally irrelevant as to whether GM would accept that order over another order, e..g, date submittal is always secondary to GM’s prioritization system of granting orders to its largest dealers first in times of insufficient supply compared to demand.

    Hypothetical example # 1: A very small Corvette selling dealer (dealer “A”) submits my order for my first year ME on July 25, 2019. Your dealer, a massively selling Corvette dealer (“dealer B”) does nothing for about six weeks, and only first submits your order on “September X,” the day that the first C8 ordering consensus officially starts. My small dealer has no allocation.

    Overriding issue: If a dealer does not have an allocation for that consensus, it matters not whether he/she has submitted your order on any date, e.g., no allocation equals all such orders not moving forward from their perpetual limbo in status 1100.

    Hypothetical example # 2: My dealer submitted my C8 order on July 25th; it reached status 1100 within the next day or two. Your large dealer does absolutely nothing, does not even enter it in the GM WorkBench Connect system, until “September X” (again the estimated first day of the C8’s first ordering ordering consensus). In this example, both dealers have one allocation for the first consensus. Further in this hypothetical, there is an extreme short of pink competition seats, and GM only has only set of those seats to award this consensus (between those two dealers). Your larger selling dealer would get that one set of pink seats, and assuming no other constrained options, your order would be accepted; yet mine, even though my order was submitted six weeks earlier, would not be accepted. Once again earlier timing does not pay any role in GM accepting orders if competing orders are properly entered when a consensus has started and both orders have been separately paired with an allocation, e.g., timing is always second to GM’s prioritization of its top selling Corvette dealers in granting limited models and/or limited options.

    February 2nd will be the first C8 customer coupe production, e.g. SORP (start of regular production).

    2020 C8 HTC (hard top convertible) allocations are expected (but not yet announced by GM), to open up in late January, with the first HTC production starting extremely late in March, or perhaps early April.

    E) OPTIONS For your Corvette's Delivery:

    So far, we have been primarily discussing walking into a local dealership. Options include purchasing your car from a large Corvette dealership located in another part of the country, and make that special Corvette road trip home. Alternatively, large Corvette dealers have a list of car transporting companies who specialize in shipping "top of the line" cars, so you could buy your car across the country and have it shipped to you. Or, to minimize shipping costs, you could do a "courtesy delivery." Essentially you buy from a far-away dealer, pay that dealer, but that dealer doesn't have GM ship the car to them, but instead shipped to a dealership close or near to you. To do a courtesy delivery, you have to find a local dealership who will accept the delivery, including performing the pre-delivery inspection (PDI). Most dealerships charge between $250-$750 to perform this service. However, many of the nation's top dealers already have an informal network of dealers throughout the country, one hopefully close to you, whom your selling dealer already knows those local dealerships will do a courtesy delivery for you -- again with the charge, but considerably less than shipping your car or going to your "cross country" dealer and driving it home. Or, pose your question on the forum, such as "I live in 'X', does anyone know who accepts courtesy deliveries here?" Another popular option is to take Museum Delivery at the National Corvette Museum (NCM) in Bowling Green, KY. Not only is this one of the nation's top-five car museums, but the home of our Corvette's history, made even more fantastic by an included tour of the Bowling Green Assembly plant where you car was made, just across the street. For more on Museum Delivery:

    National Corvette Museum - Museum Delivery

    NOTE please: Plant Tours are now “on hold" due to the Corona virus indefinitely.

    To see new Corvettes waiting for, or being customer picked up:

    Webcam Corvette Blvd

    For direct communication with an individual who picked up their C7 at the Museum, happy to discuss their experience with you, answer your questions, etc, feel free to PM "John."

    If you still have questions about dealers with allocation, please feel free to post your question in the "Purchasing" area.

    At this point, you have selected your options, chosen your dealer who has allocation, and decided where/how you will be receiving your brand new 2020/2021 C8 Corvette. Now you are going to actually place your order.

    When you are totally satisfied that your dealer has allocation, and you know everything you want to have in your order, including considering how current constraints may affect when you get your car, you are ready to have your order written, including the written specification that your deposit is 100% refundable if for any circumstance your dealer can not deliver your order as you spec'd it, etc.

    Other exciting Corvette options include purchasing the Buyers Tour -- where you and a friend spend two days walking down the assembly line with a Tour Guide and watch your car actually being built. I have done two of them, and will have my C8 include a Buyers Tour too. Please search for that either in our forum's search function, or by going to: and finding it there.

    II. Critical “Order To Delivery“ Steps/information:

    This thread outlines the many steps between your order placement and the delivery of your car.

    Let's assume you have done everything in that previous thread and now your order has been placed with a dealer who had an allocation and matched it with your order. Below are some of the steps that your car will go through between now and delivery (though some steps will be skipped for many). Here are the tracking codes:

    Order Status Tracking Codes: GM Order Status
    1000 Order On Hold at Dealership
    1100 Order Placed at Dealership; Preliminarily Accepted by GM Computer. Note: This does NOT mean that GM guarantees that your car will be produced -- as that only occurs at status code 2000!
    1101 Order Entered into System
    1102 Order Entered via Web
    2000 Order Accepted by Chevrolet: GM has accepted and will produce your Corvette as ordered.
    2001 Order Generated to Dealer
    2005 Order Replaced with GM Prospective Order
    2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet
    2050 Order Changed
    2500 Order Preferenced (or "Picked Up" or "Imaged"), Sent to Production
    3000 Order Accepted by Production Control
    3100 Order Available to Sequence (now becomes more stable)
    3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (Target Production Week usually available now)
    3400 Order Broadcasted for Production (Internal Plant Order Produced)
    3800 Vehicle Produced
    4000 Available to Ship
    4200 Shipped
    4800 Rail Ramp Unload at VDC
    5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
    6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
    9000 Order Cancelled

    Important Notes/Considerations:

    Note, the date at which an order is entered into GM's system is not important (has no "extra weight"). The only critical thing is that when GM offers an allocation for a C8 to your dealer for a specific consensus (a six-day ordering cycle that always starts on a Thursday), is that dealership matching up that GM allocation with your specific order. That pairing leads to your order becoming "GM formally accepted, e.g., status 2000. That is the holy grail of your getting your C8 build exactly as you wanted (of course constraints can play a role in that process also).

    If you do not do your "allocation homework," here is what can happen. You walk in your local dealership, order a Corvette, give them a non-refundable or refundable deposit, get your six digit order code (most starting with the letter "R", “S” or the letter "W") and think your Corvette is coming. Months later you find that your order means nothing, i.e., you are no further along than you were the day you walked into the dealership. This happened to thousands of individuals during the C7 generation. Why? Without that dealer having allocation, GM will not accept your order and it stays in limbo. Conversely, placing an order with a dealer who has allocation will eventually generate subsequent GM order acceptance (status code 2000).

    While you can change your order at any time prior to status code 3000, if you do that, it will then go first to status 2050, then 2030, and here is where it can get complicated. It would seem that since status 2030 and 2050 are higher than status code 2000, that your order is still guaranteed. However, that is not the case, for if/when your order goes to 2030 or 2050 as a result of even a single option or color change, it then reverts to pre-2000 status, meaning it once more has to be evaluated and then accepted (or denied) by GM. This becomes even more critical at the end of a model year, and further complicated if your option change now includes an option on constraint. So while you can make changes prior to status 3000, it will at least probably add some additional time until your order goes to status 3,000 and might result in your order not being built at all if this happens near the end if a model year. This becomes compounded if you have changed your order to add a constrained item, a color that has been, or is being phased out, could result in a major time delay.

    The most important initial step is that your order has been accepted by GM, status code 2000. It is now critical that you have your dealer print you a copy of your order from GM's "Workbench Connect" software system. Please review it as thoroughly as you have read and re-read any other legal document, for dealers have been known to make mistakes, and mistakes at status code 2000 can be easily changed. Conversely, once your order has gotten to 3000 status, your order can not be changed. At status code 2000+, this means that:

    "Your order has been placed by your dealership, been accepted by Chevrolet and is now in line for production. This process can take time, is subject to change, and does not mean that the vehicle is physically being built now, but that it will later be.

    Tracking Your Corvette's Order Through Different, Progressive Order Status Codes:

    GM has a great internal tracking code system, but unfortunately, systematic step-by-step communication with you, the customer, doesn't usually occur. There are two ways you can find out about your car's status.

    1. Dealer Ccommunication:

    The best way is to have your dealer be proactive and to have them systematically share its "progress milestones" with you. Each dealer has the ability to track your order's progress by the aforementioned GM Global Connect WorkBench software system. Every dealer has one or more individuals who have authorization into that system, for without the WorkBench Connect system, there would be no way for a dealership to order a single vehicle. Many dealerships are reluctant to share this information, but if you can make personal friends with the dealership's WorkBench Connect Coordinator (flowers, donuts, flowers, compliments, etc.), you are often home free. And while this has never been an issue with the excellent dealers I have ordered from, if you find you are working with a less-than-cooperative one, remind them that you are aware that once your vehicle has been delivered, that you will be directly receiving from GM a dealer evaluation, and that in your filling it out – and sending it directly back to GM, emphasizing with your salesperson, that happens from this moment forward will influence your dealer evaluation. At the same time please realize that some dealers will be entering over 100 Corvette during on single consensus and could be tracking many hundreds of Corvettes through the ordering system at a time. So please do not pester them, but be respectful that they are working on not just your order at that time, but many, many others.

    2. GM's Corvette Concierge Program:

    Every dealer has through their Global Connect Order WorkBench software program, the program in which they order all their vehicles, the ability to 24/7 look up the status of an order. That process will continue, i.e., every dealer will continue to have the ability to look your order status on their software system. This is not a special program but the one that they use/need to order every single new vehicle from GM, whether Corvettes, pickups, SUV’s, etc.

    Therefore to ascertain your C8’s Order Status Code, you could but also not before your dealer has informed you that he has paired and submitted your order with a specific consensus granted allocation, contact either your dealership or call the Corvette Concierge program at 1.866.424.3892.

    Congrats – But Some Last Thoughts/Cautions:

    You have finally, gotten through to 3000 status, the parts are now allocated to your car, and then you wait some more. How long is unknown, but unfortunately each day will feel like a week. As per the eight above suggested ways to monitor your car's progress above, you will hopefully and periodically learn more about its progress until, one day, "the call comes," that your car is built, soon heading to you.

    Once your car has been released from BGA grounds to its primary transporter (Jack Cooper Transport) the primary avenue you have to track it from Bowling Green to its eventual destination is through your dealer.

    There is a secondary, interesting way to track your car once it is in transit mode IF you have already bought it from the dealer from whom you signed the paperwork with (as opposed to a courtesy delivery dealer). Then, as it is yours, your dealer's rep can activate its OnStar program (which is complimentary for the first six months of ownership). By doing so, after a typical wait of 24 hours, you can track your car's whereabouts on your computer/mobile device. As one owner who did this said, I "tracked it in real time while on the transporter (or on the railroad “autorack” transporter). You can zoom in or out... map view or street view."

    And for use from mobile devices (only)

    The above are pitfalls and "victory steps" your car may experience along the way. If you wish, post up your questions and commiserate or celebrate each step with others on our forum along the way. It will be an exciting process, though, sorry, sometimes there will be temporary "challenges."

    Cautions When Your Car Has Arrived At The Dealership:

    When you finally pick up your car, watch that your euphoria doesn't interfere with your systematically checking it out, i.e., you need to calmly insure it came exactly as you ordered it, and that its "fit and finish" looks good to you. If there is any deviation from what you ordered, for example a missing option you do not wish to compromise on (even with a full option price reduction), an incorrect option that is not later "fixable," and/or extremely significant problems with its fit-n-finish, refuse to accept the car and drive away. However, if there is a deviation or minor problem that you and the dealer fully agree on how it can be later fixed, you and the dealership need to acknowledge, in writing all issues and their upcoming resolution(s) before you sign anything. If any issues are found, do not rely on a salesperson’s hastily scribbled initials, but get a full legal signature from both the Sales Manager and the Service Manager on a dealership letterhead document as to what and when will be specifically done to resolve any identified issues.

    One suggestion that works well for me, is that every time I go to a dealership to pick up a new Corvette, I bring an equally-fastidious, Corvette car nut friend with me, so while I am dealing with emotions, questions, listening to what is being explained to me (but before signing anything), he is calmly checking it out all with a strong flashlight, especially the underside of the car – especially its four corners, exhaust pipes, and aero trim such as its splitter and skits (if any), the insides of the wheels/tires, the inside of the car including the engine compartment and the cargo area, paint, upholstery interior trim, and all the things it is easy to miss in the heat of the moment. Before I head over to the dealership, I give my friend a list of the ordering document (so all options can be checked by comparing with its window sticker), and those items I am most wanting him to check (as listed above). Sure, I am over cautious, but after reading too many forum posts from those new owners who suddenly found a major issue later, only to then be in a strong difference with the dealership as to whether it was delivered that way or caused by the owner in the first few days/weeks of having the car, I want to have all future owners avoid such heartache. all those issues are to be avoided with extra, initial, detailed vehicle review – again before anything is every signed.

    Hopefully, as most, your car arrives in beautiful condition, a day to celebrate.

    Please share its arrival (pictures would be a bonus) here in a new thread. Thank you.


    Enjoy your fantastic new Corvette!

    Most importantly, best of luck getting your new Corvette as soon as possible -- with every option you wants.



    Last edited by John; 08-19-2019, 04:34 PM.
    GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

  • #2
    Very informative post John. Thank you, Vic


    • #3
      Very, very informative and it is very appreciated!

      Thanks, Sal


      • #4
        This is an excellent thread. Will be great info once the buying frenzy begins on the C8.


        • #5

          Thanks for joining our forum today! Glad that will be useful info to you, and yes as you mentioned, there will be a buying frenzy once ordering starts. We do not yet know exactly when, but it will be sometime during next spring. Our best guess remains that the first customer ME’s will be delivered around the same time period as the first C7’s were, e.g., in late summer, as first C7 regular customer C7 was delivered on September 20, 2013 — to someone who is a personal friend and a current MECF member.

          GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.


          • #6
            Great post.
            Thank you.


            • #7
              Thank you for the info John, very good info to know before ordering 2020. I am sure there will be a buying frenzy once orders are taken at the dealers. With the GM strike lasting a month I am sure production will now be delayed till January or later? Those who have their orders in early may be okay but guys like me won't get 2020 till late in summer and since put away by November lose a year warranty for only a few months driving. Maybe a better option to wait and order a 2021?
              Last edited by Explosive!; 10-23-2019, 03:11 AM.


              • #8
                As this transitioning from order status to order 2000 was just asked in another thread, let me try and alternative explanation of that process:

                There are many things that need to happen to have a Corvette order become a build-to-spec Corvette.

                First, a Corvette order goes to 1100 status (which is nothing more than someone at a dealership filling out an application and the computer saying it was correctly filled out. But, does filling out a application for a job mean anything if you are never called for an interview? Identically, does having an status 1100 order mean anything if GM does not also award your dealer allocation to match with that order. Looking at this another way, just as sometimes people fill out an application for a job they are wanting, say a firefighter, if the Fire Department is not hiring, your applications sits and sits. This sitting and sitting, going nowhere, will happen to every 1100 application until all of the following steps also occur.

                Second, GM offers a dealership allocations during a Corvette consensus (the first one starting on September 12th; to continue the analogy, GM has offered six Corvette allocations (we are now hiring six firefighters).

                Third, the hiring committee picks six applicants from the resume pile, in this case from the pile of dealership Corvette pre-orders; the dealership then selects their six highest candidates in priority order.

                Fourth, the interview committee interviews all six candidates to review that six candidates meet all qualifications; in our Corvette world, the six orders are then evaluated to determine if they have constraints. If constraints that can not be worked around, that candidacy, that order is rejected.

                Fifth, if no constraints, with the six GM allocations that offered to that dealer now being paired the dealerships offered top six candidates (again all six having no constraints that consensus), then we have a marriage, i.e., that all six orders move to status 2000.

                Status 2000 is magic, meaning that GM has accepted your exact order, and will build it exactly as you have submitted it.
                GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.


                • #9
                  For those with less than unlimited financial resources, figuring out how you are going to pay for it would be a good idea before going to the dealer. If you intend to trade in a car, using Edmunds or some similar site to evaluate what a fair trade would be is prudent. If you are going to finance part of it, getting some prior information on car loans is good even if you do not commit to a loan. It is likely the dealer will offer some source of financing. To decide whether the offer is a good one, its useful to have done your homework to find out what a loan would cost from a source you find on your own.

                  And if you live in a cold climate area and are buying a Z51 or other car that comes with summer only tires, figure out what your strategy will be when ambient temperatures fall below 45 degrees. Swap out of tires for all seasons, or a second set of wheels with all seasons mounted, are two possibilities. If you are going with all seasons year round, then swapping tires as early as possible is best, as you will get a much greater trade in credit on tires with virtually no miles on them.


                  • #10
                    John your the best thank you for all your knowledge and time....LOU.....MRHAPPY


                    • #11
                      Ladies and gentlemen! Presenting the GM Event Code list in its entirety!

                      0000 Order/Order Request Cancelled
                      0005 Cancellation Pending
                      0500 Order Configuration Accepted
                      0501 Order Configuration Added
                      0551 Order Configuration Changed through Web
                      0600 Pending
                      0610 In Process
                      0620 Rejected
                      0630 Cancelled
                      0640 Expired
                      0700 Approved
                      0701 Trade Request Applied to Order
                      0702 Medium Duty Port Inventory Tag Request Applied to Order
                      0703 Vehicle Order Reconsigned by Vehicle Distribution Management
                      0999 Order Configuration Cancelled
                      1000 Order Request Accepted by GM
                      1001 Order Request Added
                      1002 Volume Order Request Added
                      1003 Divisional Order Request Added
                      1004 Order Request Added through Web
                      1010 Order Request Becomes Order
                      1030 Order Request Re-Edited; Passed
                      1031 Order Request/Preliminary Order Re-Edited
                      1035 Re-Edited; Failed
                      1040 Mass Order Request Change
                      1050 Order Request Changed
                      1060 Order Request Split
                      1065 Order Request Split; Fulfilled
                      1099 Order Request Cancelled
                      1100 Preliminary Order Accepted
                      1101 Preliminary Order Added
                      1102 Preliminary Order Added through Web
                      1196 Cancel Preliminary Order through Web
                      1300 Order Request Approved
                      2000 (Placed Order) Accepted by GM
                      2003 Legacy Order Added
                      2004 Retail Sold Order Added
                      2005 Order Replaced with GM AutoBook Order
                      2006 Order Replaced through Web
                      2010 Order on Bulletin Board
                      2012 Lead/Pilot Order Added
                      2030 Order Re-Edited
                      2040 Mass Order Change
                      2050 Order Changed
                      2051 Order Changed through Web
                      2053 BAC Replaced
                      2055 Change to Order at Plant
                      2057 Change to Divisional Order
                      2058 Financial Hold Status Updated by OCAS
                      2059 Order Changed by OCAS
                      2061 Pre-Assigned Serial Number Request
                      2062 Pre-Assigned Serial Number Request Sent to Corporate Order Management System
                      2063 Pre-Assigned Serial Number Received from Corporate Order Management System
                      2064 Pre-Issued Certificate of Vehicle Origin Requested
                      2065 Pre-Issued Certificate of Vehicle Origin Request Sent to Production Order Management and Scheduling
                      2066 Certificate of Vehicle Origin Confirmation Received from Production Order Management and Scheduling
                      2067 Resend Pre-Issued Certificate of Vehicle Origin Request to Production Order Management and Scheduling
                      2080 Remove Hold; Resend to Plant – Daily
                      2081 Order on Financial Hold
                      2082 Order on Purchase Order Hold
                      2085 Remove Hold; Resend to Plant – Weekly
                      2086 Remove Hold; Send to Plant Daytime Cycle
                      2087 User Confirms Order NOT Cancelled at Plant
                      2090 Order on Hold
                      2091 Dealer Terminated; Not Sent to Plant
                      2093 User Confirms Order Cancelled at Plant
                      2094 Cancel Pending from Plant
                      2095 Order on Manual Hold
                      2097 Plant Cancel Confirmed
                      2100 In-System Return Pending
                      2150 Cancellation Request Pending
                      2500 Preferenced
                      2530 New Order Pending; Productionizing Error
                      2550 Change Sent to Order at Plant
                      2570 In-System Return Request to Order at Plant
                      2575 Cancellation Request to Order at Plant
                      3000 Accepted by Production Control
                      3022 Offshore Event Reversal to Event 3300
                      3024 Offshore Event Reversal to Event 3450
                      3025 Offshore Event Reversal to Event 3550
                      3099 Order Cancelled at Plant
                      3100 Available to Sequence
                      3300 Scheduled for Production
                      3400 Broadcast
                      3450 Import Vehicle Produced
                      3500 Body Set-Up (Non-Import Vehicle)
                      3550 Import Vehicle Shipped from Port of Origin
                      3750 Import Vehicle Received at Port of Entry
                      3800 Produced
                      4000 Available to Ship
                      4104 Bailment Invoice
                      4106 Release Bailment
                      4110 Invoice Reject
                      4120 Internal Invoice
                      4150 Original Invoice
                      4200 Shipped
                      4250 Ocean Dispatched
                      4300 Intermediate Delivery
                      4350 At Port of Exit – Truck
                      4800 Rail Ramp Unload
                      4850 At Port of Exit – Rail
                      4B00 Bayed (Available to Ship)
                      4B01 Arrived at Vehicle Distribution Center
                      4B10 Available for Export Shipping
                      4B11 Available for Sale
                      4B12 Argentina Built Order Ready for Re-Invoice to Mexico
                      4B31 Anticipated Tag
                      4B40 Grounded Tag
                      4B42 Untag
                      4B45 Credit Rebill Rejected
                      4B50 Final Dealer Assigned by Central Office
                      4B60 Credit Rebill Sent to Vehicle Billing and Accounts Receivable System
                      4B65 CDO Requests Created (GM International Sales Only)
                      4B70 Credit Rebill Cancelled in Vehicle Billing and Accounts Receivable System
                      4D00 Vehicle on Hold
                      4DCR Carrier Reject
                      4F01 Vehicle Arrived at Central Distribution Center
                      4F02 In Transit to Regional Distribution Center
                      4F03 Vehicle Arrived at Regional Distribution Center
                      4F04 Vehicle Tagged in Transit to Dealer
                      4FCR Invoice Reject
                      4FUN Credit Dealer/Undo Invoice
                      4V01 Vehicle at Upfitter
                      4V02 Vehicle on Transportation Hold
                      4V03 Estimated Delivery Date Updated
                      5000 Delivered to Dealer
                      5050 Vehicle Transfer – Dealer Initiated
                      6000 Delivered to Customer; First Delivery; D1
                      6061 Delivery Cancellation; First Return to Stock; R1
                      6200 Retail Sale; Second Delivery; D2
                      6261 Return to Stock; Second Return to Stock; R2


                      • #12
                        Thank you Jeremy. Very helpful. That is the first time I saw that complete list.

                        However, GM does such a disservice to new to Corvette owners by labeling 1100 status as “Preliminary Order Accepted.” It should instead be called, “Submitted In Proper Form But Not Yet Matched With An Allocation.

                        Consequently, I am going to soon change 1100 status to that more accurate, latter description (to not create a false-positive narrative that 1100 status means “I am home free; my car will now be built.”
                        GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.


                        • #13

                          As a nube to the Corvette ordering world, this info was/is most appreciated. Also, great to know my dealer is also one with allocations.


                          07/01/20 Deposit @ VanBortels on 2021 C8 Coupe; 08/01/20 Prelim Order Status 1100; 01/21/21 Final Order Status 2000; 01/27/21 Status 3000; 2LT Coupe; GMO; DSZ; Q8Q; HTA; AQ9; E60; FE2; NPP; ERI


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hogyld View Post

                            As a nube to the Corvette ordering world, this info was/is most appreciated. Also, great to know my dealer is also one with allocations.


                            Welcome to the Forum Jeff, Tons of useful info here. Congrats on getting a order for your C8.
                            Rocket City Florida


                            • #15
                              Wow, just read this thread. Thanks John great information.
                              2020 C8 Convertible, LT2, Arctic White, Z51 with FE4 Mag Ride, GT2 2-Tone (Red/Black) Seats, Carbon Flash exterior accents (wheels, mirrors, spoiler, nacells, etc.)