Official C8 Stingray Constraints

[John]

This is our sticky in which we are going to list all the GM announced constraints. Once the first consensus starts, Sept. 12th, it will be updated every
time GM does. The constraints listed in this thread are not new, rather repeated here so that later we have a complete, sequential list of all 2020 constraints as they occurred.

This is not a “conjecture,” nor “I heard a rumor” thread — and all such posts shall be removed. Similarly, because something does not work in the “Visualizer,” does not in and of itself qualify it to be listed in this thread, that is unless it is separately verified.

Thank you.

UPDATE NOTES:

1)INFORMATION IN THIS FIRST POST HAS BEEN UPDATED (NO LONGER TOTALLY CORRECT). INSTEAD PLEASE GO TO POSTS # 26 & 27 FOR INFORMATION CORRECTED AS OF SETPEMBE 12TH (1ST DAY OF FIRST CONSENSUS). LEAVING HOWEVER THE FIRST 25 POSTS FOR GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

2) Then go to the latest constraint info we have in post # 82.



Here are the August 10th initially announced C8 constraints (though they were confidentially released by GM to it’s dealers two days earlier). While they were never intended to become public when they did, as two good sized YouTube dealers did so, we have included them — for after those two went public, this became the world’s worst secret.

Rather than retyping them, here are some screen prints of those original GM documents. Other information conveyed at the time by GM to its dealers was:

First Consensus: Sept.
First Dealer Order Submittal Process (DOSP) is September 12th
Start of Regular Production is December 2nd

Only one DOSP per month
No convertible news until Fall

[jsmatt]

John, great Idea to track this here. This helps all of us with understanding when the key colors and options will be available!

[ZORA 69]

THANK YOU, Extremely helpful and another great tool in the ordering process provided by MECF.and John. Many THANKS

[LightningBolt]

How late is "Late Availability?"
I understand no one has a crystal ball, but what has been typical in the past?

[DanVette]

Heck...I've only got four current constraints...and, I can live without three of them.
Thanks for this excellent info.
Without constraints, am #1 at local dealer with five first quarter allocations.

[John]

How late is "Late Availability?"
I understand no one has a crystal ball, but what has been typical in the past?

Many have been in the shorter end, some less than 30 days, though on the other end, the ZR1 spent its whole year constrained, ending up with just 2,875 produced.

As you noted, crystal ball time so far. Might we get some hints at Carlisle and/or NCM???

[WMBGC8Corvette]

So anything not listed, like Z51, is NOT constrained, correct?

[John]

Correct. Do not want to alarm anyone for we are not expecting things to change in a negative way, but stuff does happen such as when one of the two GM suppliers who chromed C7 wheels burned burn, causing delays. A member of this forum, Buzz, had his C7 delayed six weeks as a result of that issue.

Could there be additional constraints later? For sure. As one theoretical example... What if GM has expected the take rate for the E60 lift option to be 10%, but 25% of customers ordered it. What would be the chances of a single manufacturer being able to increase capacity by 250% in a very short time frame.

So while we do not know know of a single other constraint other than listed in this thread, that is not a guarantee that there might not be isolated ones occurring later. Of course conversely, items on the constraint list could be be eliminated from the list before GM’s stated timelines, or eliminated overnight.

Again no guarantees.

[John]

Correct. Z51 and hundreds of other items not listed in this thread are not on constraint.

Do not want to alarm anyone for we are not expecting things to change in a negative way, but stuff does happen, e.g., such as when one of the two GM suppliers who chromed C7 wheels burned burn, causing delays. A member of this forum, Buzz, had his C7 delayed six weeks as a result of that issue.

Could there be additional constraints later? For sure. As one theoretical example... What if GM has expected the take rate for the E60 lift option to be 10%, but 25% of customers ordered it. What would be the chances of a single manufacturer being able to increase capacity by 250% in a very short time frame.

So while we do not know know of a single other constraint other than listed in this thread, that is not a guarantee that there might not be isolated ones occurring later. Of course conversely, items on the constraint list could be be eliminated from the list before GM’s stated timelines, or eliminated overnight.

Again no guarantees.

[Mr Happy]

Hey John....so ur saying torch red and 2lt are on constraints for sept ordering ????????????

[John]

GM is saying everything.

Let us look at that GM issued chart (in the original post), and this one is a touch confusing for the timing has no constraints for the first month of orders for those six different colors, including Torch Red; thus Torch Red, Arctic White, Black, Ceramic Matrix Gray Metallic, Shadow Gray, and Sebring Orange, and they are all good to go on day one if they also meet the right hand most column, three specific ordering conditions.

Now to your second question, look please at the right hand most column and see that the only 2LT’s that are constrained, and then for only one month, are those with a particular combination of “with the front lift, yet no mag ride”.” All other 2LT’s are good to go from the outset if in they are ordered in those six colors.

[pfbz]

Thanks. Great info, and while not unexpected, I'm disappointed that my first choice 1LT/Z51/Non-Mag/Sebring build will fall under minimum six week constraint.

My single-digit reservation number doesn't really mesh with waiting an extra month or two...

[Boomer]

Let us look at that GM issued chart (in the original post), and this one is a touch confusing for the timing has no constraints for the first month of orders for those six different colors, including Torch Red; thus Torch Red, Arctic White, Black, Ceramic Matrix Gray Metallic, Shadow Gray, and Sebring Orange, and they are all good to go on day one [I]if they also meet the right hand most column, three specific ordering conditions.

John: Point of clarification. Are you saying the colors listed in the second column are not under constraint and that any colors not listed are under constraint?

I thought those charts listed what is under constraint not what isn't.

[Frenzy36]

John: Point of clarification. Are you saying the colors listed in the first column are the colors not under constraint and that any colors not listed are under constraint?

I thought those charts listed what is under constraint not what isn't.

That is what I thought too. If your listing it it must be a constraint. I also don't understand the no magnetic ride. Hopefully there will be some clarification.
Also the colors listed (Is that when they are being produced or when they are on constraint? I thought this was a constraint thread?

[Boomer]

Also the colors listed (Is that when they are being produced or when they are on constraint? I thought this was a constraint thread?

Certainly not produced. I took it as a chart of availability for the consensus. Just not clear to me what's constrained.