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Do NOT Compromise On Your Chosen Color Or Your Chosen Options

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  • #16
    We do not know. Nor does GM at this point. They will, just like the C7, start at a rate of one car per hour. They will not only have all quality control staff right there with the car as it is going down the line, but will import other QC Specialists from other plants to provide additional eye***** and expertise.

    When they have micro-analyzed the initial cars, including removing parts after they are finished, talking with the assembly staff as to what went well, what should be improved, etc, and they are then very pleased with the results at that start up rate, they will increase the assembly rate —again micro-examining those built at the higher rate. They will continue the process of sequentially increasing line speed, but only when they are highly satisfied with its quality. Eventually, they will achieve the 11.6 Corvettes per hour final/sustained assembly rate.

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    Again we do not know, nor will GM know how fast that assembly per hour rate increases, until they have gone through the above process.
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    • #17
      Good post John.
      I have spot 1 at my dealer but am looking for constrained ELB so I know others may get the first allocations instead of me. I wanted an early allocation not to be first but to be one of the first.
      The wait is fine, give the plant employees some time to get used to assembly. I do not want my car in November anyway. My car gets covered December 1 for winter hibernation. No use wasting 6 months of warranty to be first.
      I am hoping for a March build like my C7 Z06. Delivery to western Canada was 2 weeks from build date.
      C8 Z06 deposit placed July 22, 2019. I am deposit number 1 again. Did I beat you on this one John?

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      • #18
        Funny; funny. You would have had to have your C8 Z06 order in for about 2 years to beat me on even my second, Z06 deposit..

        I wish you well on your exact game plan becoming your perfect reality! Having worked on an OEM automotive assembly line, just like any new physical task or sport every one of us learns, we are not as good in week one as we are in month one, etc.
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        • #19
          I agree wholeheartedly ... don't compromise. This is going to be my first order of "what I want" in a loooong time, I want what I want! I'm thinking a convertible, but I'm not sold on the Convertible's looks. Roof line at 1/4 panel, no engine view etc. I really need to see the cars to decide. I'm on the list to order, but will give up my spot if undecided. Someone will move up. That's ok, I hate to give up my spot, but would regret not making my decision before seeing the vert. I'm going to Carlisle next week. a zoo I suspect, but look forward to seeing an actual car/cars.

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          • #20
            As I noted in the first post, so you change your color from what you dearly love to your second choice, how are you going to feel when you drive up next to your original first choice color. I know someone who did that, and he is still kicking himself in the *** four years later — especially when he see that other color.

            What if someone makes that second color choice decision to theoretically save one month, orders It, and GM surprises to the upside as they did with BGA introduced new colors after the 13 week shutdown in the fall of 2017, and brought all almost every color from day one? [They original and stated plan was that only certainly colors would be initially introduced, then others would progressively be rolled out later.] Maybe they will not be able to upside surprise this time, but what if they are?
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            • #21
              I am a tiny bit concerned that if I wait a bit for the restricted options, colors, etc to be allowed, the base price on the car will go up. This car at 60k base is underpriced significantly. They could sell them 5k more all day long

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              • #22
                I think once your order is in the price is locked...i wouldnt worry....the price increases wont be that big anyway..

                the market is collapsing and by 2021.2022 the auto segment according to analyst could shrink in the USA from 16.4 million today to 13.4 million by 2022...

                the corvette has a halo car for chevy brand screams excllent value as much as amazing performance.

                i do happen to believe we will see annual orice increases like the c4 corvette if the economy does well though. I just dont see that happening so I wouldnt worry about first year price increases.second year, third year and forth year maybe...but doubtful with a potential collapse of the US auto sector in general.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by John View Post
                  Funny; funny. You would have had to have your C8 Z06 order in for about 2 years to beat me on even my second, Z06 deposit..

                  I wish you well on your exact game plan becoming your perfect reality! Having worked on an OEM automotive assembly line, just like any new physical task or sport every one of us learns, we are not as good in week one as we are in month one, etc.
                  2 years! And my wife thinks I need counselling.... and as for my plan, I hope it works but hey, it gives me something to ponder while waiting other than ring times and fuel mileage. I guess what I am saying is I agree with you and I will not change my order parameters just to get the car sooner. It is too much money to spend to be in a hurry.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by 23skinguy View Post
                    I am a tiny bit concerned that if I wait a bit for the restricted options, colors, etc to be allowed, the base price on the car will go up. This car at 60k base is underpriced significantly. They could sell them 5k more all day long
                    Good points 23skinguy. t will go up at some point in time. However, the first price increase for the 2014 Stingray was six months into its production year.
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                    • #25
                      I dont know much about this first year purchase thing yet I was under the impression once your order goes in the system the price is protected.

                      there maybe a status requirement and that i havent a clue.

                      if the car launches in fevruary to the dealership in february...the plant works double shifts...in 6 months we would still be looking at august for a typical 6 month price increase...

                      pretty much all the orders that are placed by december before the start of production should be i would believe price protected...

                      whats the status number where your order is price protected?

                      2200? Order in the system?

                      i would think a consumer os not going to be real pleased if they ordered a corvette at xyz pricing and by the time it was produced the selling calls and says your car is here but the price went up ..

                      that would be a pretty poor public relations move and Id tell the dealer eat the price increase even if it were just $500 ...and so should you.

                      we are dropping 60, 70, 80 or 90 grand...so some degree of professionalism and courtesy surely must exist.

                      price increases are fine...but not after you sign and place the order..

                      if tje dealer puts your order in for dealer stock the. The you eat the price increase...but a legitimate customer order....no way gm hits you with a price increase after placing the order...
                      Last edited by JB; 08-14-2019, 03:59 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Sometimes GM has price protected an order; many times not one that is just 1100 status (submitted but not yet GM accepted). I believe that when your order has reached 2000 status it has always been protected.
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                        • #27
                          I know nothing of ordering process etc of a new vehicle as Ive never been this involved over my past three new corvettes..

                          john., as an extreme example ...if on the tenth week (approximately in December) before any c8 production begins and my salesman is able to place the z51 fe4 1LT order in the system as per the last constraint document we saw and its received by gm does that in fact make it a 2000 level order?

                          not that it really matters yet the extreme case would easily highlight the ups and downs of not getting a vehicle for say a few months and in fact have pricing set?

                          whether it be color or option pack....once the order is input as per the constraint document does it go to level 2000? Or does it in fact have to get a production date to be considered an order?

                          i know you guys are the experts of knowing the different codes...

                          i believe and I could be wrong...the constraint document does not appear to be a build date document...how could it be? I believe gm will build in groups to speed up production and minimize inventory issues yet at some point...suppliers ability to meet demand of say certain options will need to be spread out over the calendar year.

                          I would be surprised if all suppliers can deliver a years worth of parts for each option in say a three month period...

                          just a guess though...


                          Last edited by JB; 08-14-2019, 06:11 PM.
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                          • #28
                            There are many things that need to happen to have a Corvette order become a build-to-spec Corvette.

                            First a Corvette order goes to 1100 status (which is nothing more than someone at a dealership filling out an application and the computer saying it was correctly filled out. But, does filling out a application for a job mean anything if you are never called for an interview? Identically, does having an status 1100 order mean anything if GM does not also award your dealer allocation to match with that order. Looking at this another way, just as sometimes people fill out an application for a job they are wanting, say a firefighter, if the Fire Department is not hiring, your applications sits and sits. This sitting and sitting, going nowhere, will happen to every 1100 application until all of the following steps also occur.

                            Second, GM offers a dealership allocations during a Corvette consensus (the first one starting on September 12th; to continue the analogy, GM has offered six Corvette allocations (we are now hiring six firefighters).

                            Third, the hiring committee picks six applicants from the resume pile, in this case from the pile of dealership Corvette pre-orders; the dealership then selects their six highest candidates in priority order.

                            Fourth, the interview committee interviews all six candidates to review that six candidates meet all qualifications; in our Corvette world, the six orders are then evaluated to determine if they have constraints. If constraints that can not be worked around, that candidacy, that order is rejected.

                            Fifth, if no constraints, with the six GM allocations that offered to that dealer now being paired the dealerships offered top six candidates (again all six having no constraints that consensus), then we have a marriage, i.e., that all six orders move to status 2000.

                            Status 2000 is magic, meaning that GM has accepted your exact order, and will build it exactly as you have submitted it.
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                            Last edited by John; 08-14-2019, 09:17 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Thanks for the explanation John.

                              this is the first time in many decades I say oooh...i cant wait to get remarried..

                              btw my wife and I celebrated our 26 th anniversary today and she surely is a saint for putting up with me...
                              Last edited by JB; 08-14-2019, 09:27 PM.
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                              • #30
                                Congratulations JB and Mrs. JB!!! May you have five more decades together.
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