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  • Dilemma about Dealer Allocation....Thoughts from experience?

    I take blame for not understanding the entire consensus, first 3 months allocation, and constraints very well when I gave my deposit. I originally contacted one of the big 3 to put my reservation there but after factoring they were about 4 hours away, I went with a closer dealer who was selling at MSRP as well. They said I was #10 on list. Great. Turns out theyre getting 9 allocated for first 3 months. Which is still OK....I don't need the vehicle right away and besides some may pull their deposit anyway...My worry is if I will get the color I want due to their limited allocations. I want Rapid Blue primarily and it seems like many are saying there may be constraints on it. Even if not that color, I'd probably only consider Accelerate Yellow or Orange. But still I do not want to sacrifice if I am spending the money. Lastly, even if it was on hold or constraint, and then I tell them to move through the list, then there is no guarantee I get anything, with the limited allocations.

    If anything I'd pull the deposit by the 15th at the local dealer and either just place a deposit down now at one of the larger volume dealers to secure a spot where the color shouldn't be an issue.

    Am I overthinking this and would probably be fine as is?

    Thoughts?

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    Here’s some good news, is that except for year long constraints — off which there are not many, but as an example the 2019, one year only, limited production ZR1 due to its massive amounts of centerline-match visible carbon fiber), most constraints are resolved over time. Some are just weeks long; many are “less than thirty (30) days,” etc. You might be in the perfect sweet spot of being able to get whatever you are wanting.

    Early folks might experience those constraints much more. For example even with my being right near the top of Mike’s ordering list, IF I wanted Rapid Blue and/or the Edge Red engine cover, I would be totally out of luck for some, yet-unknown amount of time. If I refused to compromise on either of those, my having my deposit down for 4 1/2 would mean little, and as I noted yesterday on another thread, if remains possible that someone who first contacts a dealer with an allocation the very first day of the first consensus (estimated sometime in mid-Sept) and that later-comer could be the very first regular customer in America to get their C8.

    So many timing unknowns yet, but again Jljordan922 you could be in the sweet spot as you are willing to wait.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by John View Post
      Here’s some good news, is that except for year long constraints — off which there are not many, but as an example the 2019, one year only, limited production ZR1 due to its massive amounts of centerline-match visible carbon fiber), most constraints are resolved over time. Some are just weeks long; many are “less than thirty (30) days,” etc. You might be in the perfect sweet spot of being able to get whatever you are wanting.

      Early folks might experience those constraints much more. For example even with my being right near the top of Mike’s ordering list, IF I wanted Rapid Blue and/or the Edge Red engine cover, I would be totally out of luck for some, yet-unknown amount of time. If I refused to compromise on either of those, my having my deposit down for 4 1/2 would mean little, and as I noted yesterday on another thread, if remains possible that someone who first contacts a dealer with an allocation the very first day of the first consensus (estimated sometime in mid-Sept) and that later-comer could be the very first regular customer in America to get their C8.

      So many timing unknowns yet, but again Jljordan922 you could be in the sweet spot as you are willing to wait.
      Thanks that is certainly good news...I think I'm going to take a chill pill and let the process just play out as it should. Being in no immediate rush, if most constraints don't last longer than 30 days, heck even a bit longer in my case, I think I should be fine then and get what I want.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jljordann922 View Post
        I take blame for not understanding the entire consensus, first 3 months allocation, and constraints very well when I gave my deposit. I originally contacted one of the big 3 to put my reservation there but after factoring they were about 4 hours away, I went with a closer dealer who was selling at MSRP as well. They said I was #10 on list. Great. Turns out theyre getting 9 allocated for first 3 months. Which is still OK....I don't need the vehicle right away and besides some may pull their deposit anyway...My worry is if I will get the color I want due to their limited allocations. I want Rapid Blue primarily and it seems like many are saying there may be constraints on it. Even if not that color, I'd probably only consider Accelerate Yellow or Orange. But still I do not want to sacrifice if I am spending the money. Lastly, even if it was on hold or constraint, and then I tell them to move through the list, then there is no guarantee I get anything, with the limited allocations.

        If anything I'd pull the deposit by the 15th at the local dealer and either just place a deposit down now at one of the larger volume dealers to secure a spot where the color shouldn't be an issue.

        Am I overthinking this and would probably be fine as is?

        Thoughts?
        When I talked to MacMulkin today , they were at number 192 of deposits of a 1176 car allotment. If your car was on a constraint due to a color or anything you would move down the list and still have priority over others with later numbers. Sounds as though you may want to Talk to a larger dealer and ask about how courtesy deliveries work.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ZORA 69 View Post

          When I talked to MacMulkin today , they were at number 192 of deposits of a 1176 car allotment. If your car was on a constraint due to a color or anything you would move down the list and still have priority over others with later numbers. Sounds as though you may want to Talk to a larger dealer and ask about how courtesy deliveries work.
          Thats exactly who I spoke to earlier and why my dilemma had begun lol ... It seems I can get on their list and still be in the first 3 months bc they have around 280 for first 3 months or so I was told. But the rush to get isnt it, I just want to make sure I get the color I decide on. I wasn't aware of the courtesy delivery but waiting on a phone call and ill ask and iron out any other questions I had. Also if my deposit is actually refundable up until the point of my allocation being ready it makes it a bit safer choice in case something really unplanned came up during that time. As opposed to deciding within 72 hours of Aug 15.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jljordann922 View Post

            Thats exactly who I spoke to earlier and why my dilemma had begun lol ... It seems I can get on their list and still be in the first 3 months bc they have around 280 for first 3 months or so I was told. But the rush to get isnt it, I just want to make sure I get the color I decide on. I wasn't aware of the courtesy delivery but waiting on a phone call and ill ask and iron out any other questions I had. Also if my deposit is actually refundable up until the point of my allocation being ready it makes it a bit safer choice in case something really unplanned came up during that time. As opposed to deciding within 72 hours of Aug 15.
            Mark is always busy so I talked to Vanessa. But I do not like to call often and have only called once since making my deposit and that was today. The courtesy delivery is very common by them. They do it often. Instead of paying for a transporter to bring your car from NH thye can arrange to have it delivered to a Chevy dealer near you. Usually the dealer near you will charge $300 to $500 for this service. It is less than transporting the car and you will get the car sooner and not to worry about another handler. At MacMulkin you deposit is refundable until you actually place the order. So if you skip first allotment and decide to go to the second allotment your deposit is still refundable. SO NO THERE IS NO 72 HOUR RULE ON DEPOSITS. MacMulkin is working in real time and not doing what smaller dealers do, FORCING PEOPLE to get committed earlier than the system. I was left with the impression when pricing goes out on August 15th MacMulkin will send you the order information and September 15th is a date for actually beginning of the first orders.

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            • #7
              I did a courtesy delivery with MacMulkin on my 2015 Z06. It went flawlessly from initial conversation to eventual delivery.

              Ditto on almost all not having a 72 hour after pricing announcement requirement. But that fact that one dealer has it, alerts each of us that we need to do research and decide what our dealer’s practices are and whether we are comfortable with them.

              Last edited by John; 08-02-2019, 06:23 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ZORA 69 View Post

                Mark is always busy so I talked to Vanessa. But I do not like to call often and have only called once since making my deposit and that was today. The courtesy delivery is very common by them. They do it often. Instead of paying for a transporter to bring your car from NH thye can arrange to have it delivered to a Chevy dealer near you. Usually the dealer near you will charge $300 to $500 for this service. It is less than transporting the car and you will get the car sooner and not to worry about another handler. At MacMulkin you deposit is refundable until you actually place the order. So if you skip first allotment and decide to go to the second allotment your deposit is still refundable. SO NO THERE IS NO 72 HOUR RULE ON DEPOSITS. MacMulkin is working in real time and not doing what smaller dealers do, FORCING PEOPLE to get committed earlier than the system. I was left with the impression when pricing goes out on August 15th MacMulkin will send you the order information and September 15th is a date for actually beginning of the first orders.
                Thanks for the info...that is actually great to hear regarding deposit and courtesy...Being only 4 hours I'd maybe consider the ride but at least thats an option!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ZORA 69 View Post

                  When I talked to MacMulkin today , they were at number 192 of deposits of a 1176 car allotment. If your car was on a constraint due to a color or anything you would move down the list and still have priority over others with later numbers. Sounds as though you may want to Talk to a larger dealer and ask about how courtesy deliveries work.
                  They is a very good place for those late to the party, who still do not have a deposit down with a dealership, for MacMulkin has roughly 100 allocations per month and with drop off, one could sign up with MacMulkin today and perhaps get their car made in the second half of the second month.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by John View Post
                    I did a courtesy delivery with MacMulkin on my 2015 Z06. It went flawlessly from initial conversation to eventual delivery.

                    Ditto on almost all not having a 72 hour after pricing announcement requirement. But that fact that one dealer has it, alerts each of us that we need to do research and decide what our dealer’s practices are and whether we are comfortable with them.
                    Exactly, The smaller dealers are adding to the confusion.The larger dealers dealing with real deposits can better set the standards and keep them from being questionable and ever changing rules when a high deposit return rate occurs. I was actually astonished when I found out that macMulkin only had a list of 192 deposits as of today. They are real deposits and real commitments. Most likely MacMulkin will have a low fall out rate due to his higher deposit requirement which leads to less confusion and makes better sense. As opposed to a dealer with an allotment of ten cars and has 20 deposits and tells his customers to hang in there as the fallout rate is 40 to 50%.There is no guarantee in this scenario you will get a car. So go with the big three and stay away from the Miami dealer ((#4). He is still trying to figure out how to take advantage of people Way less confusion and much better business sense, especially for the dealer who may want to keep his reputation intact. . Besides the larger deposits are REFUNDABLE IMO

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                    • #11
                      To quote Jerry Lee Lewis, the day the first constraints are out, there is going to be a whole lot of shaking going on, for everyone who have imagined their car with a specific set of colors and options, but finds one of them constrained, OMG, what do I do, e.g. compromise and not wait, or not compromise and wait. Of course this is all filtered through the second overriding factor, does my dealer have an allocation for me this constraint.

                      Note: If your dealer is not placing your order say until hypothetically for many months consensus, it makes no different what the first week constraints are unless GM announced that the options/colors you are wanting, are for a long and might effect your order when it would later go in (an unusual circumstance most of the time).

                      So in order:

                      1) Pick your colors and options.
                      2) Look at the first constraints in which your dealer said they are ready to order your car (or a few week previous).
                      3) If your dream (and affordable car) has any of those constraints, determine if you willing to compromise it/them?

                      I know already that I am not compromising on E60 the front axle lift system, but would compromise on my intense desired to watch my car be built (Buyers Tour). It is not too early to be thinking about this third factor.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by John View Post
                        To quote Jerry Lee Lewis, the day the first constraints are out, there is going to be a whole lot of shaking going on, for everyone who have imagined their car with a specific set of colors and options, but finds one of them constrained, OMG, what do I do, e.g. compromise and not wait, or not compromise and wait. Of course this is all filtered through the second overriding factor, does my dealer have an allocation for me this constraint.

                        Note: If your dealer is not placing your order say until hypothetically for many months consensus, it makes no different what the first week constraints are unless GM announced that the options/colors you are wanting, are for a long and might effect your order when it would later go in (an unusual circumstance most of the time).

                        So in order:

                        1) Pick your colors and options.
                        2) Look at the first constraints in which your dealer said they are ready to order your car (or a few week previous).
                        3) If your dream (and affordable car) has any of those constraints, determine if you willing to compromise it/them?

                        I know already that I am not compromising on E60 the front axle lift system, but would compromise on my intense desired to watch my car be built (Buyers Tour). It is not too early to be thinking about this third factor.
                        Does the museum delivery come with watching your car being built?

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                        • #13
                          No R8C does not. It does give one a longer than typical public BGA tour, but you will definitely not see your car being built (exception the separate Buyers Tour which on also purchasers from NCM.

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