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Scheduled maintenance period from 05:00 PM to 06:00 PM Pacific Time on Wednesday October 4th, 2023.
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Corvette Today: Corvette News & Headlines, Early October 2023

The automotive industry is going through a tumultuous time right now with the United Auto Workers striking the Big 3 automakers. Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, teams up again with Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger to bring you the most up-to-date information in the world of Corvette.;

Besides the UAW strike, here are some of the other Corvette topics that Steve and Keith will discuss:

1. 2024 Corvette production started on Monday, September 18th

2. Two ZR1 prototypes are spotted in Colorado with no wheel coverings and no exhaust sounds

3. A C3 Corvette gets a "Mako-over" into a Mako Shark II

4. A C8 Z06 falls off a lift at a dealership

5. A 2023 70th Anniversary Z06 sells at Mecum for $247,500

6. A Chevy Silverado rolls over a C8 Corvette....ON PURPOSE!

Every other week, CORVETTE TODAY brings you the latest news in the world of Corvette to keep you informed on what's happening with America's Sports Car!
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2024 & 2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2024 Order Guide Here:
2023 Corvette Brochure:
E-Ray Visualizer:
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors:
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 Order Guide:
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual:; and,
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer:
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide:
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer:
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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    We believe you will find the MidEngineCorvetteForum fun and useful to you, whether you are interested in the 2020+ mid-engine (ME) Corvette or a front-engine (FE) Corvette.

    Please treat others as you wished to be treated. All posts shall be respectful and polite —especially when we disagree with another’s opinion. Similarly, we do not refer to others in an inappropriate manner.

    Sometimes not responding to something is a prudent way to address something you feel strongly about. Contrary opinions are welcome if they are expressed using the same language you would to a friend, e.g., tactfully.

    We are a friendly forum where questions are welcomed; we are here to help each other; and here to share our Corvette knowledge and experiences. As a group of Corvette enthusiasts, we gather to learn more about the upcoming, mid-engine (ME) Corvette, and at the same time recognize the beauty and performance of many members’ earlier generation Corvettes. C7 We thus have a separate section for “Compelling C1-C7’s.”

    We are primarily a Corvette focused forum, though wander to discuss other wheeled vehicles too.

    The forum will be best enjoyed if members choose to introduce themselves. Please consider doing so here.

    This is a privately owned forum. It is led by the expertise and special knowledge of the Administrators (Admins), SuperModerators (Mods) and our Resident Photographer. These individuals are collectively known as the MidEngineCorvetteForum (MECF) Administrative Team (or Team). The forum is formally called the, LLC.

    Whether content is or is not acceptable on MECF is judged not only by strict adherence of these rules and standards but equally as to the judgments of the Admin Team as to whether any all content shall remain or be removed from a thread/post. The Admin team will evaluate content and membership based on its sole determination as to what is best for the forum’s integrity, growth, stability and its atmosphere.

    MECF owners are not responsible for any user-generated content. Although the administrators and moderators of the MidEngineCorvetteForum will attempt to keep all objectionable or prohibited messages off this site, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the poster/author, and neither the owners of the MidEngineCorvetteForum, nor vBulletin Solutions forum software will be held responsible for the content nor the legality of any message/material or other items posted.

    By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, disrespectful, or otherwise violate of any forum’s guidelines, standards, and rules.

    The owners of the MidEngineCorvetteForum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any content item for any reason.

    As part of our efforts to get MECF off the ground, our knowing that we needed a good number of initial members to post, respond, and tell their Corvette friends about us, we extended to all who joined in our first ten days and who told their friends about this new forum, that they would have a forum title of “Founding Member/Founder,” e..g., we so appreciate our earliest joining members. Please note however that title does not come with it any ownership interest. If you are going to an event and wish to do something in the name of MidEngineCorvetteForum (representing yourself beyond that you are a member), you shall contact first contact forum admin “John” to discuss your plans, getting his approval before doing so. Thank you.

    Content submitted express the views of its author only, and/or their source quoted material. All views expressed by members are solely the opinions of the individual author, and do not represent the opinions of MECF or its operators. Forum moderators are not employees of MECF.

    The Admin Team shall do everything possible to insure that all members, guests and vendors are treated with respect. Members shall to likewise treat each other kindly. To accomplish this, these forum guidelines, standards and rules have been adopted. At the same time, it is impossible for MECF or its representatives to read every single post, so occasionally a post will remain on the forum for a while, might not ever be noticed. However, posts being earlier made and staying on the forum for any amount of time are not considered a precedent unless their content is completely consistent with our forum rules. Consequently every member of this forum is personally responsible for insuring that every one of their posts complies with this standard and with all of the following:


    1) Membership is a privilege accorded in accordance with all of the following standards. However, membership, once accorded, is revocable if these rules/guidelines are egregiously violated. While revocation is the opposite of our goal, all need to know the parameters of how we operate.

    2) Administrators and Moderators solely determine what content is consistent with our standards of conduct. Rules and guidelines may be adjusted without prior notice.

    3) When a member needs assistance in complying with these standards, as time allows, the Team will help educate a member as to what changes in a thread, post, presentation style and/or other action(s) need to occur. We do not play “gotcha” if a rule/guideline is not met, but instead focus on what subsequent, changed actions would result in that member’s future compliance with these rules/standards.

    Exception: All who engage in posting spam shall be permanently banned without warning.

    Please, when in doubt, in advance, send an inquiring private message to a forum Administrator or Moderator.

    Violations of these rules shall result in editing of posted material, infractions being issued, and/or the member being temporarily or permanently banned from the forum — again solely at the Team’s discretion.

    However, that last consequence is the extreme, for again we wish instead to be helpful. We desire to assist in creating a fun and constructive environment. That is achieved by all posts being helpful and respectful.

    4. This forum cares about all individuals. Assume when you are posting, that it will often be read by a person whose values and beliefs could be different than yours. Therefore, do not post content in threads, avatars, and signatures that you would not want your children, grandchildren, mother, wife or significant other to see.

    No discussion of political or religious issues, nor commentary about society’s social issues nor about societal organizations is allowed on this forum. Content that is racist, sexist, obscene, x-rated, or objectionable will not be tolerated. Foul language is prohibited; that includes the gamesmanship of leaving certain letters out, adding spaces or using similar ways to “disguise” those words (such as using a “$” as a substitute for an “S”), and similar. Swearing is obviously also prohibited, as is using language that is offensive.

    ​​​​​All of these determinations are made solely by the Administrative Team.

    All posts violating this rule will be deleted without notice, with potential additional consequences.

    These standards apply to not just the posted words, but equally to PM’s, pictures and videos.

    5. Do not violate a person's privacy by posting information that is private and personal without prior written permission. Again, this also applies to private messages. No one may share the content of a private message with another person without the sender’s written permission.

    6. Personal attacks on others, such as belittling, calling of names and/or any other pejorative language or pictures will not be tolerated. While differing and/or opposite opinions are valued, they are valued only when they are tactfully expressed.

    Similarly neither trolling the forum nor GM is not allowed, where trolling is the practice of constantly, repetitively and consistently finding fault in Corvettes, their components, and/or GM. Specific individual concerns are welcomed to be tactfully and factually expressed for they can lead to another member suggesting a remediative step or process, but the repeat practice of making unsubstantiated generalizations and blanket attacks will not be permitted, for that is neither helpful nor constructive.

    Lastly, Sarcasm is not welcomed, nor are sarcastic attacks on another(s) and/or their opinions.

    7. Multiple “same content” posts and threads are not desirable; similarly do not post similar or identical threads in different parts of the forum. Threads created in the wrong section are subject to being moved or deleted without advance notice. Threads posted in multiple forum sections (duplicate threads/“cross posting”), are subject to being moved to the correct forum or deleted — again without prior notice.

    When a thread has a defined, limited subject, posts shall be those consistent with that subject.

    8. Do not advertise nor promote your personal websites, domains, businesses, or services in any part of the forum. The only way a member or company is allowed to advertise on this site is if they are a forum vendor, owner or Resident Photographer.

    Exception to this rule and the one below, a YouTube channel name may be used as a forum name as long that channel’s videos are primarily car related AND, that that their language and content is consistent with our forum being a “family friendly” one.

    9. Your forum name may not include any part of a business name unless you are a forum sponsoring vendor or owner. Please contact an Administrator if you wish to become a Supporting Vendor.

    10. Every member shall have one forum name. Violation of this rule by creating multiple forum names/accounts will result in the member’s termination.

    11. Do not post URL links to any product or service that is offered by a forum vendor. Exception: If the product or service you wish to link is one that you know is not offered by a forum supporting vendor, you may post that link. Examples of the latter could include tools, common products like duct/electrical tape, motor oil, and/or providers of specialized upgrade, maintenance or repair services.

    Prohibited example of a non MECF vendor. “” (which takes one to that non-vendor’s site).

    12. Re other forums, URL linking another “” name, or promoting other Corvette related forums in your threads, posts, signature or avatar is not permitted. You may however mention another forum site’s name if you are thanking/crediting that other forum as the source of info/pictures you brought over to MECF. In summary, mentioning another forum’s name is fine when importing info/pics, but a specific link or a post “” itself is not.

    You are also permitted to place links to your personal non-car forum, non-competing blogs, FB, Twitter, and similar non-advertising accounts.

    13. If a member of the Admin/Mod Team edits or removes any part of any thread, post, signature or avatar, the member shall not re-insert that change/deletion.

    Conversely, sometimes to add content to a forum an Admin or a Moderator will add something into a post for a specific reason, such as adding a picture to a special, high quality thread to create a “featured forum slider” thread; if so the member shall not remove the picture. The reason is that a featured slider needs a picture within it.

    14. If you are not pleased with the way that MECF is being run, and/or have a specific issue with a member of the MECF admin team, it shall only be expressed via a private message. Do not criticize the forum itself in a public post.

    Similarly, if you are having an issue with the forum, express that directly via a private message to a member of the Admin/Mod team. Do not publicly criticize the forum for an issue you are having — for candidly almost all such issues such as issues with posting pictures, attachments, signing on, passwords retention, are traced to an issue with that member’s own computer/browser (not a forum issue). Mostly importantly, if you are having an issue, the Admin/Mod team will help you track it down and fix it when you express it to them via a private message.

    Do not publicly criticize any position taken , nor any post/thread written by any member of the Admin/mod team. Again, if you are not happy with something, it shall be only discussed via a private message. [BTW, while this standard is identically against the rules in other forums, whether they choose to enforce their own written rules is not relevant on MECF.]

    15. We are polite to other forum members. Enthusiastic, but differing opinions are always HIGHLY VALUED — as long as everyone is respectful and polite to the person they are disagreeing with, e.g., saying our opposite opinions nicely.

    Report posts that are abusive rather than quoting them and responding to them. Report it by clicking on the word “Flag” at the bottom right side below the post. Do not get sucked into such posts, for often the person who reacts next is the one who overreacts, and consequently pays a stiff price. Just like in sports when person elbows another person, and that second person decks the first person, the referee might miss the first elbow, but will not miss the second retaliator.

    16. MECF believes in following our laws of our country and state. All post shall be consistent with this basic standard And therefore very specifically, this forum does not condone, nor allow any posts about street racing nor other illegal vehicular activities.

    17. One of our reasons for gathering on this forum, is to help each other, e.g., “how do I replace my battery,” “should I replace my worn out tire with a run-flat,” etc. If a person chooses to solitude, accept, or follow the suggestions of another member, it is the person who actually performs the consequent work or activity (or chooses another person to perform that work) that solely accepts 100% of the consequences, risks and liabilities of their performing the work, i.e., none of the consequences, risks or liabilities befall on the person who provided that information.

    Identically, should a member purchase a product or service from a forum vendor, liabilities for its installation or usage, or any consequences therefof, strictly rests with the vendor from whom products and/or services have been purchased. Under no circumstance shall or its operators be liable to the user and/or any third party for any lost profits or lost opportunity, indirect, special, consequential, incidental, or punitive damages whatsoever. All purchase and financial transactions are exclusively between the member and the vendor, completely separate from the MidEngineCorvetteForum.

    Regardless of which category the above member vis-a-vis vendor applies (or the reverse), none of the consequences, risk or liabilities are transferred to on any Administrative team members of the forum, nor to the entity of, LLC.

    18. We value the work and opinions done by others, so if a member is quoting from an auto media magazine, the poster shall link that source. For the identical reason, one who posts a picture shall credit the source of that picture. If that source is not known, instead the poster shall state something like, “thanks to the unknown source for this picture” (or similar language). In summary, this forum respects the skills and talents of article writers, photographers, artists and similar, and all members shall strive to do their best to properly source and credit those who initiated that “product.”

    19. Login passwords are confidential and not to be shared with another person.

    20. Sometimes a member’s forum number, as noted on the bottom right corner of the home page, might change. When we have contests and when we rarely award special member forum number as part that member’s forum title, e.g., the upcoming “2,000th member,” those numbers will be based on the first time a number is assigned to a member’s name.

    21. Whenever a member has started a thread and it is based on their updating new information as it is obtained, do not hijack their thread.

    22. YouTube videos are permitted. As possible, they are embedded within MECF for direct watching here on the forum. However, notice to YT videographers that click bait titles are not allowed and if the content does not majority related to its title, it may be removed (with re-insertion not allowed.

    23. Selling of Corvette items that you personally own is allowed/encouraged. However, re-selling of something you acquired for the purpose of resale is prohibited. As is “bidding” to sell it. Simply post it and once you and a “buying party” have agreed via email, PM, p[hone call, or text of the transaction, the seller shall follow through with that sale. All such transactions are also governed by this thread: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tb-wtt-threads. GOOD LUCK!

    24. MidEngineCorvetteForum is the sole owner of the information collected on this site. We will not sell, share, or rent this information.

    25. is not related to General Motors, Chevrolet, or Corvette — nor any other component part of GM.

    26. Whenever we have a contest, vendors are not eligible to receive prizes.

    27. Advertising for and about our MECF vendors is a privilege as we believe in their products. But as our bandwidth costs are considerable, if vendors after receiving at least three written communications of past due amounts consistent with their written, signed advertising agreements with MECF choose not to pay their amounts past due, we shall regrettably a) remove their account, and b) from that point forward until the complete past due payment is received, actively remove all posts about their products, including from that point forward, no mention nor any pictures of that vendor’s products would be permitted — again until complete past due payment has been received. We regret we even have to include this with our rules and standards but circumstances so dictate that when a vendor has chosen not to pay past due bills, we will in no form allow MECF to directly or indirectly advertise their products.

    28. Anti-EV bias AND anti-ICE basis expressed in a way that demeans another member and/or belittles another’s their previous thread/post on either side of this issue is prohibited. Those who have not gotten that message will be at least temporarily banned and/or permanently banned.

    29. Language and images in a private message while confidential as stated above, shall also comply with all above standards.

    Registration: In order to use this website, a user must first complete the registration form. During registration a user is required to give their contact information (such as name and email address). This information is used to contact the user about the services on our site for which they have expressed interest. It is optional for the user to provide their location, personal, demographic information, and other unique identifiers. However, providing such information can provide a more personalized experience on our site.

    Determination of compliance with MECF rules and standards rests solely with the Administrative Team.

    We hope you have fun here, learn from others, and contribute your expertise and knowledge. Thank you for joining our MidEngineCorvetteForum!

    Your Admin/Moderator Team
    Last edited by John; 09-08-2022, 06:53 AM.
    2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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    if another member contacts me thru this forum, how do i look that up? is there a link to private messages? thanks, wes
    2023 c8 yellow convertible, bought used from MM (mar) 4K mi. waiting for Z06.....


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      Thank you John. How many individuals are owners of this forum?


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        Originally posted by GT40-Pinhd
        if another member contacts me thru this forum, how do i look that up? is there a link to private messages? thanks, wes
        If you are signed in (your forum name is in the top right hand corner of the home page), and someone sends you a PM, as per below you will see a little number next to the Private Message box.

        If however there is a PM sent to you by the MECF Admin team, you will receive an additional notification via an email to you.

        As you can see from below, I now have one unopened private message sent to me by another MECF member.

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        2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.


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          John... besides the two members that are corresponding via a PM , who else can read those private messages? I'm assuming PM's can be monitored and I can certainly understand why that would be part of the Rules. Thanks!
          2023 August allocation: Red Mist C8Z HTC 3LZ Natural Dipped CF visible wheels/aero & ceramics ++
          See you at the gas station!


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            Actually not. They are private. Admin has no access to them. One exception is if someone spewing hate (do not mean “dislike”) but outright hate such as several violations of our bad word filter, then admin will be notified that person A is violating our bad word filter repeatedly, but admin will never know the actual content of the PM.

            Private messages are truly confidential so if you were to say, “I think John has gone overboard on his defending GM about its shortage of carbon fiber,” I will never know what was said (nor will any other member of admin), to whom it was said, nor by whom it was sent.

            Private messages are also private in terms that if person A writes to you and say I like Porsches, and person B responds back that she likes them too, neither can then share with a third person that “Person B likes Porsches.” Again, private message are confidential. BTW same is true if you get a private message from a member of admin, that message is confidential and its content can not be further shared with anyone.

            One more exception is if Person A in a private message calls you a “f’in idiot” and you wish to file a formal infractions complaint as Person A violated the basic rule that all MECF communications are respectful, then you can file an infractions complaint with admin and they will reach out to try and resolve/fix this egregious violation. But if Person A says to you that “I completely disagree with you, I like Ferraris better than Porsches,” that is nothing that should ever go to admin as a complaint. It needs to remain confidential.

            Hope this helps. No one is spying on anyone here unless someone else is being outright disgustingly abused/attacked.
            2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.