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  • With the rumor that even the targa top will retract do U think

    i was just curious if you guys believe the rumor that the upcoming c8 targa model will have a retractable roof or will it detach and lift off?

    If the targa is retractable do you think its in some way permantly attached?

    used to be if you bought the car with say a transparent roof and changed your mind....you would just buy a solid roof and sell off the transparent top your car came with...

    or visa versa..

    if the targa is kechancially although manually retracted...i think we better make sure we know which roof we want before ordering...

    of course if the targa is a lift off none of this matters or its just ew bolts to unattach I guess its no big deal...

    i hope you guys are enjoying these crazy questions...

    thanks for participating and throwing out your opinions....

    cant wait until july 18!

  • #2
    I don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility that it retracts (and I hope it does!). Just look at the current Porsche Targa for some wild ways of making things go where you least expect them to!

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    • #3
      Would be pretty slick wouldnt it...

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      • #4
        In various photos of the camo cars, you can see the cut lines for the roof and rear butresses. They are very different on the targa and convertible. If the targa retracts, it does so completely differently than does the 'vert. I think it highly unlikely GM has spent the money to engineer two completely different retractable roof solutions. At the prices Porsche charges, the cost of doing that doesn't matter so much. The Corvette needs to sell at a much more affordable price point.

        For what it's worth, my 2 cents says the targa is just that, a targa. You take it off and store it. If it retracts, it becomes a convertible, not a targa.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
          In various photos of the camo cars, you can see the cut lines for the roof and rear butresses. They are very different on the targa and convertible. If the targa retracts, it does so completely differently than does the 'vert. I think it highly unlikely GM has spent the money to engineer two completely different retractable roof solutions. At the prices Porsche charges, the cost of doing that doesn't matter so much. The Corvette needs to sell at a much more affordable price point.

          For what it's worth, my 2 cents says the targa is just that, a targa. You take it off and store it. If it retracts, it becomes a convertible, not a targa.
          I fully agree. A power targa would be just as complex, and expensive as a convertible IMO, and GM will want to have some price differentiation as they always have.

          Also, there are plenty of C6/C7 coupe owners on the forums who leave their targa tops on all the time. That segment would be pretty unhappy to have to pay a premium for a feature they would never use.
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          • #6
            I believe the convertible will be a power retractable hard top roof...

            i believe the targa will be a manual removable roof.

            the question is regarding if the targa will be a lift off manual as we have had in c5, c6 and c7 targas or if the manual targa will have a manual lift up of the rear deck panel and a physical folding back of the targa as it is attached via mechanical points during placement into the same slot behind the seats or firewall?

            does this sound clear?

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            • #7
              JB, agree with your first two sentences. Not sure I am understanding your last one.
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              • #8
                I believe the rear deck of the convertible will offer an open rear deck different than the rear hatch like rear of the targa.

                Maybe the rear targa rests simply above the engine in the rear hatch in a horizontal plane as opposed to the vertical position?

                thats also possible.

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                • #9
                  Following you loud and clear; thanks for clarifying.
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                  • #10
                    Had the pleasure of recovering from stomach virus for the past week...still pretty drained if you get my drift...ugh..

                    before the corvette got a power convertible top the canvas top required the owner to pop the top then i believe get out of the vehicle to manually lift the rear panel and then fold the canvas top into place.then manually shut the rear deck panel.

                    then as the power top came about it was all done at the touch of a button...etc...

                    a possibility is the folding hardtop and storage of the c8 roof could be done electronically with the version labelled convertible with its more open rear deck in the folded tops position ...

                    and the targa would be similiar in execution to the manual convertible top procedure but with a targa top ..

                    or it could simply fit on top of the rear hatch area as we have now.

                    the reason for this discussion is I do not believe owners will be aboe to slide the targa top successfully without mechanical linkages.

                    i flip that targa roof around pretty easily in my present corvette targa. I do not believe I would or anyone would without mechanical linkages be able to successfully slide a targa roof into that slot either fore or aft the fire wall...

                    doing it on our own would prove quite challenging without damaging the targa roof ..

                    placing it the rear hatch area would be a snap...

                    figuring out how to drop it in that vertical slot in the center of the vehicle parallel to the firewall without mechanical assistance even without electrics would be required.


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                    • #11
                      I have a photo for you JB.
                      You may be on to something on the idea of storing the Targa.
                      Unfortunately the image isn't as sharp as some of my other photos.
                      As I say in the note on the photo, the front trunk may not be wide enough to hold the Targa. Click image for larger version

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CCoMEditor View Post
                        I have a photo for you JB.
                        You may be on to something on the idea of storing the Targa.
                        Unfortunately the image isn't as sharp as some of my other photos.
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                        Not really seeing any mystery here. The targa top comes off and stows behind the seats. Manually. Your note about a lot of space does not make sense. The rear view mirror must be able to always function as a mirror, not only as a screen. It's the law.

                        Nobody has suggested the targa fits in the frunk for a long time. It's not complicated.
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                        • #13
                          Great photo with details listed.

                          i do question how the targa gets placed behind the seats or even behind the fire wall seperating the engine compartment and the passenger compartment..i hope I m wrong yet Im challenged in seeing how this targa gets placed vertically behind the seats when one person lifts it up and off ...

                          i do think this particular photo shown is the retractable hardtop...

                          either a non power mechanical targa top becomes available or the targa simply gets lifted out and put manually above the engine through the rear hatch.

                          i look forward to the july 18 th reveal....to see which way the targa comes off..


                          Last edited by JB; 05-08-2019, 08:32 PM.

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                          • #14
                            I get what you're saying, manual yet some sort of mechanical assist targa liftoff? Perhaps hinged and using some sort of system similar to the trunk hatch. That sure would be cool and a lot easier than even the c7. Even if it lifts off manually as with the C7, holding it now vertically to the car and menuvering it behind the cabin would be a lot to ask a single pair of hands... so u might be onto something!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JB View Post
                              i do think this particular photo shown is the retractable hardtop.
                              I don't know if this still holds true with the current camo being used, but before you could easily tell the difference between the targa and the retractable hardtop by the camo covering in that area. The retractable hardtop had a fabric piece stretched from one buttress to the other, while the targa had glass and a lot of black tape. For example, these two mules from the Nurburgring tests:

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                              But maybe GM has gotten sneaky and changed things up to confuse us.

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