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Corvette Today: Corvette News & Headlines, Early October 2023

The automotive industry is going through a tumultuous time right now with the United Auto Workers striking the Big 3 automakers. Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, teams up again with Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger to bring you the most up-to-date information in the world of Corvette. https://youtu.be/N-JFEwaK2PQ?si=u3tepRnTgFEcCKAM; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...AyWJ7BnoEURVpA

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1. 2024 Corvette production started on Monday, September 18th

2. Two ZR1 prototypes are spotted in Colorado with no wheel coverings and no exhaust sounds

3. A C3 Corvette gets a "Mako-over" into a Mako Shark II

4. A C8 Z06 falls off a lift at a dealership

5. A 2023 70th Anniversary Z06 sells at Mecum for $247,500

6. A Chevy Silverado rolls over a C8 Corvette....ON PURPOSE!

Every other week, CORVETTE TODAY brings you the latest news in the world of Corvette to keep you informed on what's happening with America's Sports Car!
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2024 & 2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2024 Order Guide Here: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...=22639&type=0#
2023 Corvette Brochure: https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...D7Q0fp8nIEE57Y
E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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  • 1/4 mile estimates/guesses?

    Wondering what you guys think the 1/4 mile time on this car will be....completely stock. I know the 0-60 is impressive but what do you think happens after that? 60-100 and so on....Will it continue to light up the road or fall off?

    I don't think you can really make up for the lack of Hp compared to a C7 Z06 since the weight wont be drastically lighter, so despite a similar 0-60, I'm just curious what you think happens after that.

    I estimate an 11.1 or 11.2 at its best with all favorable factors at say Atco dragstrip. Maybe 124mph trap which would be an improvement over the last C7 Stingray.

    My previous C7 Z06 ran a 10.62 @131.5 at Atco on stock tires....Had a Halltech intake and Corsa Exhaust.
    2024 Amplify Orange HTC 1LT w/MSRC
    (Built 9/22; Waiting on Delivery)
    2023 X3 M40i
    2011 Audi R8
    2005 SL600
    1992 Suzuki Cappuccino

  • #2
    Guessing 11.2@123 MPH.

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    • #3
      I think you two are in the ballpark, but then again 99% of us never thought a sub 3.0 blast to 60 was remotely possible (I think I remember two forum members guessing under 3 seconds, with forum poll average being 3.35 seconds).

      So might we be shocked again with a 10.99?
      2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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      • #4
        Has GM published a coefficient of drag Cd ??
        2022 HTC 2LT Z51
        Front lift, mag ride
        black exterior, adrenaline red interior, bright red calipers, MRR F10 wheels

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        • #5
          My guess is 11.4@118

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          • #6
            Do you think the top speed will be limited? Even the stock engine should be good for 200mph
            Torch red 1LT, no options. Built June 4, received July 2

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            • #7
              I don't think the base C8 can hold up with the 650hp of the Z06 above 60mph, so I think a low to mid 11 should be possible.
              2023 C8 Stingray | Elkhart Lake Blue | 2LT | Coupe | European Model

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              • #8
                Originally posted by WillRockwell
                Do you think the top speed will be limited? Even the stock engine should be good for 200mph
                I read 190mph somewhere ... Dont quote me on it though
                2024 Amplify Orange HTC 1LT w/MSRC
                (Built 9/22; Waiting on Delivery)
                2023 X3 M40i
                2011 Audi R8
                2005 SL600
                1992 Suzuki Cappuccino

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob
                  Has GM published a coefficient of drag Cd ??
                  No, it is in an upcoming press release along with tens of other pieces of info we all crave. As to when the press release is coming, only Godot knows.
                  2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                  • #10
                    I'm going to say 11.2 @ 125mph. That's a pretty big trap speed, but with the first six gear ratios close, and intended on performance, and the quickness of the DCT, I think it will get there.

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                    • #11
                      Performance data for Base and Z51 Stingray contained in 2016 Corvette brochure follows:

                      Base Stingray - 455HP - Manual (2.664 1st Gear Ratio) - 3.42 Axle Ratio
                      4.0 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                      No Quarter Mile data cited

                      Base Stingray - 455HP - A8 (4.56 1st Gear Ratio) - 2.41 Axle Ratio
                      4.0 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                      No Quarter Mile data cited

                      Z51 Stingray - 460HP - Manual (2.966 1st Gear Ratio) - 3.42 Axle Ratio
                      3.8 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                      12.0 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile

                      Z51 Stingray - 460HP - A8 (4.56 1st Gear Ratio) - 2.73 Axle Ratio
                      3.7 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                      11.9 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile

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                      1. If the C8 reaches 60Mph 0.8 seconds faster than the C7, then how much faster does the C8 reach 70MPH, 80MPH, 90MPH, 100MPH, 110MPH,

                      120MPH, 130MPH?????

                      2IFthe C7 does "11.9 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile" , then Would the C8 [approximately] complete the quarter mile 0.8 sec faster than the

                      C7? If so then 11.9 - 0.8 =11.1 sec. IF? Since it was 0.8 secs ahead at 60MPH

                      3. The distance in feet the seperates two vehicles 0.8 in time at 60MPH is half the distance in feet that would separate two vehicles at 120MPH at 0.8 sec.

                      4. Therefore, for the C8 to be 0.8 seconds ahead of the C7 at 120MPH, then the C8 would need to double the distance of separation ahead of the C7. As that 60 MPH, what ever that distance was?


                      0.8 percent of 5280 = 42.24 feet . So at 120 MPH 84.48 feet separation.

                      Theory: Speculation ---- a. C8 hookups faster. b. C8 does 4 or 5 instant gear shifts to reach 120. Therefore the C8 runs away from the C7 going to the quarter mile. C8 gains distance and speed advantage over the C7 with every one of the 4 or 5 gear shifts. All else being equal.

                      C8 will do the quarter mile in 10.9

                      10.8?.

                      10.7 ??

                      10.6 ??? Drag advantage and tires and suspension and undisclosed tweeks
                      Last edited by SheepDog; 08-22-2019, 03:09 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob
                        Has GM published a coefficient of drag Cd ??
                        Yes, we'll need to factor in drag losses for out 1/4 mile time calculations...
                        My C8:
                        '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                        Current Vettes:
                        '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                        '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                        '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jljordann922

                          I read 190mph somewhere ... Dont quote me on it though
                          Seems reasonable, and maybe a bit low, as stock C7 Stingrays run the Autobahn at ~186MPH.
                          My C8:
                          '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                          Current Vettes:
                          '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                          '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                          '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SheepDog
                            Performance data for Base and Z51 Stingray contained in 2016 Corvette brochure follows:

                            Base Stingray - 455HP - Manual (2.664 1st Gear Ratio) - 3.42 Axle Ratio
                            4.0 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                            No Quarter Mile data cited

                            Base Stingray - 455HP - A8 (4.56 1st Gear Ratio) - 2.41 Axle Ratio
                            4.0 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                            No Quarter Mile data cited

                            Z51 Stingray - 460HP - Manual (2.966 1st Gear Ratio) - 3.42 Axle Ratio
                            3.8 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                            12.0 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile

                            Z51 Stingray - 460HP - A8 (4.56 1st Gear Ratio) - 2.73 Axle Ratio
                            3.7 seconds - 0-60 MPH
                            11.9 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile

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                            1. If the C8 reaches 60Mph 0.8 seconds faster than the C7, then how much faster does the C8 reach 70MPH, 80MPH, 90MPH, 100MPH, 110MPH,

                            120MPH, 130MPH?????

                            2IFthe C7 does "11.9 seconds @ 119 MPH - Quarter Mile" , then Would the C8 [approximately] complete the quarter mile 0.8 sec faster than the

                            C7? If so then 11.9 - 0.8 =11.1 sec. IF? Since it was 0.8 secs ahead at 60MPH

                            3. The distance in feet the seperates two vehicles 0.8 in time at 60MPH is half the distance in feet that would separate two vehicles at 120MPH at 0.8 sec.

                            4. Therefore, for the C8 to be 0.8 seconds ahead of the C7 at 120MPH, then the C8 would need to double the distance of separation ahead of the C7. As that 60 MPH, what ever that distance was?


                            0.8 percent of 5280 = 42.24 feet . So at 120 MPH 48.48 feet separation.

                            Theory: Speculation ---- a. C8 hookup faster. b. C8 does 4/5 instant shifts to reach 120 therefore the C8 runs away from the C7 going to the quarter mile. C8 gains distance and speed advantage over the C7 with every gear shift. All else being equal.

                            C8 will do the quarter mile in 10.9

                            10.8?.

                            10.7 ??

                            106.??? Drag advantage and tires and suspension and undisclosed tweeks
                            I like the way you think! 😎👍
                            I’m goin’ driving 👍

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                            • #15
                              The C8 Stingray Z51 will go to eleven.

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