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CORVETTE TODAY - Kevin Mackay Talks About The Cunningham Corvette & Bringing It Back To Life

In 1960, Briggs Cunningham took 3 Corvettes to France to race at Le Mans. After that race, the cars were brought back to the United States, put back to original and sold to consumers. The #3 car was recovered about put back to the way it was when it raced in 1960 at Le Mans and is owned by a private owner. https://youtu.be/_g_9Eah8pS8; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...FbtXiohpLYxLCh The car is owned by Bruce Meyers of the Peterson Automotive Museum in Los Angeles. But what happened to the car? After a long legal battle, Kevin Mackay from Corvette Repair in Long Island, New York, has been putting this historic Corvette back to it's original 1960 livery for the past year (after it was purchased by Briggs Cunningham's family at auction). Kevin comes back on CORVETTE TODAY to tell the story of the Cunningham Corvette and to tell you when and where you can see this car...with its two siblings! If you love the history of Corvette and its racing past, DO NOT MISS this episode of CORVETTE TODAY. www.CorvetteToday.com
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Corvette Brand Manager, Harlan Charles Talks Everything E-Ray

Corvette Marketing & Brand Manager, Harlan Charles returns to CORVETTE TODAY with your host, Steve Garrett, to talk about the new 2024 Corvette E-Ray. https://youtu.be/3u0WMcgtnWI ; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...GToHlBAjuBPZxz. Harlan gives us an extensive overview is this revolutionary new Corvette and give us insight never heard before about the upcoming E-Ray. www.CorvetteToday.com
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Corvette Today News & Headlines: Late January, 2023

With the announcement of the 2024 Corvette E-Ray, your CORVETTE TODAY host Steve Garrett, and Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger have a lot to tell you about !!! https://youtu.be/734VgDupTBI; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...UAAEX2obMOXMml
Plus, we get a possible glimpse into the Corvette future with Manny Katakis from Muscle Cars & Truck with what the C9 Corvette could look like. Besides the E-Ray, here are some of the other stories Steve and Keith will discuss....
1. Corvette beats the Porsche 911 as Consumer Reports most satisfying car to own.
2. GM delivers over 9,000 Corvettes in the 4th quarter of 2022
3. Corvette Racing debuts the GT3.R on January 27th at the Rolex 24
4. The Mecum Auction at Kissimmee sells the very first Corvette Sting Ray
5. The National Corvette Museum hosts exhibits to celebrate 70 years of Corvette
All the Corvette E-Ray news you want and need plus much more on next week's CORVETTE TODAY News & Headlines show!
Listen to the podcast, watch the YouTube video, join the Facebook group, sign up for email notifications and shop in the Merchandise Store at: www.CorvetteToday.com
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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 Pricing Spreadsheet: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...9Chvp%E2%80%9D
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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  • Z06 vs Eray ; purist vs. modernist

    As I’m learning more and more about the Eray it stood out to me.

    if you are a purist and believe nothing beats the naturally aspirated raw power of an internal combustion engine, the z06 is just that in its rawest form

    however the Eray is roughly equivalent in power, slightly faster, catered more towards a luxury trim, and utilizes the most modern technology that results in a unique sound and groundbreaking performance capabilities.

    so we have two nearly equal vehicles suited for two different personalities. It’s the ultimate question in my opinion. Do you choose to stick with a tried and true internal combustion engine, or do you not car and just want the newest tech, especially when it gives a slight advantage.

    do you want track oriented, or on road privatized power?

    high rpm flat plane crank sound. Or jet turbine tech sounds sound?

    what a time to be alive and such a hard decision.

    im on an Eray list at criswell but would consider trading spots with someone in a z06 list as I tend to lean toward the z06 having better collectors/resale value
    On Order/waitlist: 2023/2024 stingray and 2024 E Ray

    SOLD: 2022 2LT Torch Red Coupe with natural interior, glass top, yellow seatbelts, yellows calipers, NPP exhaust, body color high wing spoiler

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    Originally posted by Caliguy View Post
    As I’m learning more and more about the Eray it stood out to me.

    if you are a purist and believe nothing beats the naturally aspirated raw power of an internal combustion engine, the z06 is just that in its rawest form

    however the Eray is roughly equivalent in power, slightly faster, catered more towards a luxury trim, and utilizes the most modern technology that results in a unique sound and groundbreaking performance capabilities.

    so we have two nearly equal vehicles suited for two different personalities. It’s the ultimate question in my opinion. Do you choose to stick with a tried and true internal combustion engine, or do you not car and just want the newest tech, especially when it gives a slight advantage.

    do you want track oriented, or on road privatized power?

    high rpm flat plane crank sound. Or jet turbine tech sounds sound?

    what a time to be alive and such a hard decision.

    im on an Eray list at criswell but would consider trading spots with someone in a z06 list as I tend to lean toward the z06 having better collectors/resale value
    One comment I have after reading this is your mention of the tried-and-true ICE motor for Z06. While the E-Ray does integrate new battery/electric motor technology, you must also realize the LT6 motor is a brand-new application in a street Vette which has not seen long term road use testing, while the LT2 found in the E-Ray truly is a tried-and-true motor at this point. My understanding is that while LT6 is derived from the racing Vette, this was ultimately a ground up motor build that's the most technologically advanced motor ever in a Vette. I'm not saying it won't be reliable long term, but it may be premature to state it's a tried-and-true motor until customers have some years/miles on the platform.

    I'm also not sure Criswell would allow you to trade spots with someone, even if you found someone willing?

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    • #3
      I am unaware of any dealer who is selling at MSRP who is willing to trade but without asking directly, you would not definitely know.
      2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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      • #4
        Trading was not the point of my post and is nothing more than a fleeting thought. My point was kudos to GM for making two amazing vehicles that can really offer customers a direct path to what their convictions are when it comes to performance vehicles
        On Order/waitlist: 2023/2024 stingray and 2024 E Ray

        SOLD: 2022 2LT Torch Red Coupe with natural interior, glass top, yellow seatbelts, yellows calipers, NPP exhaust, body color high wing spoiler

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        • #5
          To me it is all about utility and value....short for "bang for the buck"....

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          • #6
            I would take either the Eray or the z06 whichever one could be delivered first.

            both have exciting attributes if delivered in different ways. They both have that sexy wide body wide wheel wide tire expanded handling capability I’m after.

            i am usually a traditionalist yet more
            recently in the last decade or two I also enjoy completely out of the box paradym shifting solutions and creations

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Caliguy View Post
              on an Eray list at criswell but would consider trading spots with someone in a z06 list as I tend to lean toward the z06 having better collectors/resale value
              [emphasis added]

              People want to buy at MSRP but sell it for more? Customers displaying the same greed as dealers? I'm shocked, shocked and appalled.

              What ever happened to buying a car because you wanted to drive the car? Everybody is a hedge fund manager these days.
              Ray

              2022 Z51 Silver Flare Metallic Coupe #8842. 3LT; GT2 seats; Black; Front Lift; Mag Ride; Engine Appearance Package; Racing stripes; Carbon flash accents. Sold my 2007 Ferrari F430 F1 for my C8. Owned a total of six Corvettes including 2 Z06.

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              • #8
                For me, it’s simply being a fan of simple is usually best. Rather have it be just ICE or pure EV. Don’t want two power trains in one car. Even though I know the electric motor is far more likely to outlast the LT2 and need less basic maintenance. Also the LT6 in itself being a very complex engine.

                Also, it’s wanting a different experience. I have driven a car with the LT1( basic same engine as LT2) and an EV( my current DD of a Model 3). I want a different experience which the FPC DOHC LT6 will provide over the OHV LT2.

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                • #9
                  I could not decide so I am on the Z06 and E-Ray list. I will take one of each. I am thinking that with the slow Z06 ramp up and the likely the same for the E-Ray that it will be awhile before I get either. Sooner would be better but I have other Corvettes to drive so waiting isn't all that bad.
                  2020 2LT Z51 Coupe
                  2001 Z06 Millenium Yellow/Red/Black
                  1966 Coupe Red/Black with Factory AC, PS, PB, PA, KO Wheels

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ray Smith View Post
                    [emphasis added]

                    People want to buy at MSRP but sell it for more? Customers displaying the same greed as dealers? I'm shocked, shocked and appalled.

                    What ever happened to buying a car because you wanted to drive the car? Everybody is a hedge fund manager these days.
                    I happen to agree. I never buy cars as investments. I just want to enjoy driving them. I dont want or need to own a car that sits in my garage. Its just not my thing. If Im so concerned about earning money I wouldnt do it with a car and if I couldnt afford or didnt want to see my cars value depreciate then I wouldnt buy it.

                    im glad so many of my friends and acquaintances have been flipping their cars and making money thats just not on my personal Agenda of things to do.

                    its been a couple of years since I took delivery of this beautiful c8 z51 targa and I kind of think having a new one would be fun. A little wider fenders and wider wheels look very nice and a new powertrain such as the eray with 655 hp 595 tq or the 670 hp Z06 sounds exciting.

                    Getting a htc allows the rear window to go down and on those occasions in the winter lets say that rear window down to hear the roar of an 8600 rpm redline in a flat plane crank dohc v8 might be exhilerating.

                    if not the z06 then the jet turbine sound of the front mounted electric motor into the cockpit along with the roar of the venerable lt2 might negate the desire of a htc since the sound comes from upfront?

                    all I know is a more visceral driving experience seems to potentially available with either model.

                    thats what Im after for an extra 30 large give or take additional options chosen.

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                    • #11
                      There are sooo many on this forum smarter than I when it comes to engineering, research, & design of these modern marvels, and although I’m a traditionalist when it comes to the “old fashioned” pushrod engines, I must admit, that the hybrid interests me more so than the FPC Z06. If I’m any of the two, then I’d probably be labeled a blend of the two then or a traditional modernist, if there is such a thing.
                      07/01/20 Deposit @ VanBortels on 2021 C8 Coupe; 08/01/20 Prelim Order Status 1100; 01/21/21 Final Order Status 2000; 01/27/21 Status 3000; 03/06/21 Status 3300 (TPW 03/22/21); 03/16/21 Status 3400; 03/22/21 Status 3800; 03/23/21 Status 4B00; 03/26/21 Status 4D00: Status 4200; 04/02/21; 04/06/21 Status 5000; 2LT Coupe; GMO; DSZ; Q8Q; HTA; AQ9; E60; FE2; NPP; ERI

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JB View Post

                        I happen to agree. I never buy cars as investments. I just want to enjoy driving them. I dont want or need to own a car that sits in my garage. Its just not my thing. If Im so concerned about earning money I wouldnt do it with a car and if I couldnt afford or didnt want to see my cars value depreciate then I wouldnt buy it.

                        im glad so many of my friends and acquaintances have been flipping their cars and making money thats just not on my personal Agenda of things to do.

                        its been a couple of years since I took delivery of this beautiful c8 z51 targa and I kind of think having a new one would be fun. A little wider fenders and wider wheels look very nice and a new powertrain such as the eray with 655 hp 595 tq or the 670 hp Z06 sounds exciting.

                        Getting a htc allows the rear window to go down and on those occasions in the winter lets say that rear window down to hear the roar of an 8600 rpm redline in a flat plane crank dohc v8 might be exhilerating.

                        if not the z06 then the jet turbine sound of the front mounted electric motor into the cockpit along with the roar of the venerable lt2 might negate the desire of a htc since the sound comes from upfront?

                        all I know is a more visceral driving experience seems to potentially available with either model.

                        thats what Im after for an extra 30 large give or take additional options chosen.
                        If you go with HTC the rear window will be down all the time! E-Ray or not.
                        I’m goin’ driving 👍

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Meldoon View Post

                          If you go with HTC the rear window will be down all the time! E-Ray or not.
                          That’s what I was just thinking too. Thanks for the insight. Eray or z06 a htc it is without question!

                          I love my targa fastback look yet I’m also digging the tunnel back design look that reminds me of the early c3 stingrays and most importantly I want a little more of cockpit frenzy of my previous corvettes.

                          GM did an amazing job isolating the cabin yet they did such a good job I look forward to the htc as you suggest to get a little more visceral experience even with the roof on

                          I always appreciate the advice!

                          thank you
                          Last edited by JB; 01-25-2023, 05:14 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Caliguy View Post
                            As I’m learning more and more about the Eray it stood out to me.

                            do you want track oriented, or on road privatized power?

                            high rpm flat plane crank sound. Or jet turbine tech sounds sound?
                            Both. Put the LT6 in the e-ray. Even a 4.8L version of the LT6 making 550 HP or a bit more would have been awesome. The programming could allow the electric motor to provide the torque below 4,000 rpm when it doesn't have power and then let the FPC sing to 8600, or to 9k in a 4.8L version.
                            2023 Z06 Red Mist HTC Red Calipers / C-Flash Mirrors and Wing / Black Exhaust Tips / Front Lift / Black 3LT / CF 1 Interior / Stealth Trim / Red Belts and Stitching.

                            Red Mist C8 Z51 traded for his big brother
                            Atomic Orange C6. Plenty of engine and suspension mods. Gone, but not forgotten

                            Member, Old Dominion Corvette Club https://www.olddominioncorvetteclub.org/

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                            • #15
                              IMO: Out of the 2 options E-ray is both of them.. Old school push rod, V-8 muscle car sound. Not a European Ferrari / Hyabusa sound which is not bad but I personally would not want to hear all the time. Lets not forget the mass TQ.. that is another American purist thing.. TQ is king. TQ+ AWD = bliss. It will be interesting to see the reviews and of course people are going to pit them against each other. The sudden slam in the seat of mass tq and awd have changed many minds, so we will see.

                              then of course you all know the modern parts which some are so so.

                              If I break down or run out of gas I better be 3-4 miles away. BUT at least that option is there. Maybe we can go 20 miles in shuttle mode.. but there will be allot of ****ed of people behind me going 15mph..heheh

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