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  • Thoughts on if this Article has things backwards.

    I noticed this article this morning and felt that they had it backwards. They are saying the car with the rear glass is the convertible and the one that looks like a fabric cover hiding the vertical rear window is the coupe (Targa) Wanted to know what you guys think.

    Originally posted by GM Authority
    Spy Shots Suggest Mid-Engine Corvette Will Offer Hard-Too Convertible Variant (By Alex Luft)
    • — SEP 7, 2018
    Days ago, we showed you that, like most of the previous Chevrolet Corvette generations, the upcoming mid-engine Corvette will feature a removable roof panel, otherwise known as a targa top. Now, a closer analysis of the most recent spy pictures gives us a very clear indication that the upcoming mid-engine Corvette will also be offered in a hard-top convertible variant.


    The Evidence


    The most recent spy shots, taken in very close proximity to Germany’s famed Nurburgring track, show not one, but two mid-engine Corvette prototypes.

    The camo does a great job at covering up both vehicles, tricking many into believing that the two units are identical. But a pixel-level analysis performed by GM Authority reveals that one of the models is a coupe with a removable targa top, while the other features a hardtop convertible configuration.

    Looking at the two prototypes side-by-side reveals three key differences.

    1. The treatment of rear window: notice how the convertible model (on the left) has a notably different rear window configuration than the coupe model (on the right). The vert seems to have a different rear glass design with what appears to be more engine venting or heat extraction hardware. The dark gray/black shield is undoubtedly part of the camouflage meant to conceal the hardware for removing and stowing the roof.

    2. The position of the camera for the Rear Camera Mirror: probably the biggest difference between both mid-engine Corvette testers is the position of the rear-facing camera that captures the video feed for the Rear Camera Mirror.

    Whereas the camera on the coupe is affixed to the roof, its counterpart on the hard-top convertible is mounted below the roof, slightly above the rear window. The necessity to relocate the camera on the convertible makes sense, since convertible operation would result in the lens being stowed and therefore inoperable. As such, engineers moved the camera for the digital rear view mirror downward, so as not to interfere with the operation of the convertible hardtop.

    3. More prominent cut lines: there are also more prominent cutlines on the roof of the hardtop convertible. Both models feature three cutlines running transversely across the roofline – one at the very front and two towards the rear. But the last cutline on the coupe, which is immediately before the aforementioned camera, appears to be fake.

    We say this for one very specific and important reason that’s noteworthy to this discussion. Since we are quite certain that the roof panel on the coupe variant of the mid-engine Corvette will be removable, we expect the panel to detach at the top of the A-pillars as well as at the second cutline, rather than the third (counting from the front of the vehicle). Removing the roof panel at the third cutline would also result in the removal of the camera for the Rear Camera Mirror, which is not a great solution. Hence, the rear-most cutline on the roof is either fake or is not a cutline at all, instead being part of the roof design.

    Mid-Engine Chevrolet Corvette Coupe spy shots - side view

    Mid-Engine Chevrolet Corvette Convertible spy shots - side view

    Notable Significance


    A hardtop convertible variant of the mid-engine Corvette is significant for various reasons. For starters, we were not sure what kind of drop-top configuration would be used on the mid-engine model. Notably, a convertible variant is of significant importance to the Corvette lineup, with roughly half of all C7 sales being convertibles.

    More importantly, this will be the first time time ever that the Corvette is offered with a hardtop convertible setup. It also doesn’t look like the mid-engine model, potentially called Zora (see more on Corvette Zora), will be offered in a soft-top convertible variant, which also will be a first for the Corvette.

    All in, we expect the mid-engine Corvette to be offered in two roof variants – a coupe with a removable roof panel/targa top (much like the present Corvettes Coupe) and a hard-top convertible.
    New spy pictures seen to show a hardtop convertible variant of the upcoming mid-engine Corvette. A hardtop convertible Corvette would be a first for the model.
    Last edited by John; 09-08-2018, 04:24 PM. Reason: I included entire content of article here to make it easier to read. John
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    Good eye Sigmon.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by John View Post
      Good eye Sigmon.
      Thanks, I didn't post the comments, but I pointed it out and the writer of the article insists they have it correct, I guess we'll know come January
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      • #4
        I'd agree that IMO this is completely backwards. My analysis, and others, has been going on for months now. The analysis matched spy shots of an obvious convertible (from the back showing the buttresses and vertical glass) with it's roof seams, and in turn matched those roof seams with the camera location.

        The camera will fold down with the roof. Nothing wrong with that for 2 reasons - the virtual mirror would be unusable in direct sunlight, and a conventional mirror is required by regulation, which will be fine with the roof down.

        Regarding the cutlines and the last picture, our belief that the car is the coupe. The front cutline is the targa, the rear cutline is the rear hatch, either hinge or opening we haven't agreed.

        The writer of this piece obviously hasn't been paying attention to what's been going on in the forums. Or chooses to stir things up.
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        • #5
          I'll add the images that I'm talking about. First the best convertible image we have, second the car it belongs to. I think the convertible image alone, along with the camera location speaks for itself.

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          • #6
            ...if this picture below lS, in fact, the coupe...then that means even the coupe will have a flat deck lid with buttresses on each side. Look close...you can see the venting poking through (see arrows). I do not believe the article. This is the convertible, IMO.

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            • #7
              yes it is...

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              • #8
                Para by para

                1. The treatment of rear window: notice how the convertible model (on the left) has a notably different rear window configuration than the coupe model (on the right). The vert seems to have a different rear glass design with what appears to be more engine venting or heat extraction hardware. The dark gray/black shield is undoubtedly part of the camouflage meant to conceal the hardware for removing and stowing the roof.
                Now we remove and stow the convertible top???

                2. The position of the camera for the Rear Camera Mirror: probably the biggest difference between both mid-engine Corvette testers is the position of the rear-facing camera that captures the video feed for the Rear Camera Mirror.

                Whereas the camera on the coupe is affixed to the roof, its counterpart on the hard-top convertible is mounted below the roof, slightly above the rear window. The necessity to relocate the camera on the convertible makes sense, since convertible operation would result in the lens being stowed and therefore inoperable. As such, engineers moved the camera for the digital rear view mirror downward, so as not to interfere with the operation of the convertible hardtop.
                Complete and utter rubbish as I already explained.

                3. More prominent cut lines: there are also more prominent cutlines on the roof of the hardtop convertible. Both models feature three cutlines running transversely across the roofline – one at the very front and two towards the rear. But the last cutline on the coupe, which is immediately before the aforementioned camera, appears to be fake.

                We say this for one very specific and important reason that’s noteworthy to this discussion. Since we are quite certain that the roof panel on the coupe variant of the mid-engine Corvette will be removable, we expect the panel to detach at the top of the A-pillars as well as at the second cutline, rather than the third (counting from the front of the vehicle). Removing the roof panel at the third cutline would also result in the removal of the camera for the Rear Camera Mirror, which is not a great solution. Hence, the rear-most cutline on the roof is either fake or is not a cutline at all, instead being part of the roof design.
                Again, not a problem in the convertible for reasons already explained. So 2 out of 3 reasons are to do with the camera location on the convertible which the writer fails to understand is not a problem when it folds away.
                Last edited by Bikerjulio; 09-08-2018, 07:01 PM.
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                • #9
                  Thanks to fvs, we have another confirmation that the article has it backwards, and that is the size of the mini-windows behind the “B” pillar, i.e., whereas in the article, GMA has the coupe with the smaller side window, in reality, as shown below from fvs’s renderings, it is the coupe that has the larger side window.

                  Coupe:

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                  Convertible:

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                  Last edited by John; 09-08-2018, 07:15 PM.
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                  • #10
                    I'll opt for the coupe version. Save money and complication.

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                    • #11
                      All convertible Corvettes look great with the top down, but when it's up... I personally prefer coupes hands down (maybe the ME will change that; time will tell). Besides, you can still remove the roof if you want. Sure it's maybe not as convenient, but that's just my personal taste.
                      Last edited by Bluevette; 09-08-2018, 07:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Having not owned a convertible for 40 years, the ME’s HT convertible could change that.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bluevette View Post
                          All convertible Corvettes look great with the top down, but when it's up... I personally prefer coupes hands down (maybe the ME will change that; time will tell). Besides, you can still remove the roof if you want. Sure it's maybe not as convenient, but that's just my personal taste.
                          The 488 convertible still looks pretty good with the roof up.

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                          • #14
                            I'm still trying to figure out where they think the rear window on their "convertible" goes when the top is down. They don't seem to understand anything about how the HT vert would have to work.
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                            • #15
                              The guy has it backwards for sure. If he thinks the coupe is the vert then it going to create one helluva parachute once the top stows and that big *** deck lid comes back down to cover it and latch. Ummm...no. Bikerjulios pic in post #5 shows us perfectly clear which one is the vert and which one is the coupe. That's why they have the makeshift cover over the back on the prototype vert.

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