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The C8.R, Jim Hall and Jim Musser

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  • The C8.R, Jim Hall and Jim Musser

    The mid-engine Corvette had a father named Zora Arkus-Duntov, but Zora had help. Two brilliant engineers who also contributed early on were Jim Hall of Chaparral fame and Jim Musser from Chevrolet who was the go-between from Chevy and Chaparral in the days when GM would not let Zora race. Their story is told here: http://www.chaparralcars.com/2e.php

    I was happy to see the Chaparrals in the GM Design presentation that Bennion showed at the NCM, but more should be told about the Chaparral 2C story. It was a very important race car. The Chaparral 2D, E and the J (sucker car) were well ahead of their time - so far ahead that the SCCA banned them.

    While CERV I, II and III were important milestones, the first Corvette mid-engine race cars were the Chevrolet Grand Sport IIb prototype and the Chaparral 2C. These cars were first cousins, in the opinion of many, the Chaparral 2C is the most beautiful race car ever built. It was also incredibly fast and won its fair share of races in 1965-1967. It served as the inspiration for the Chevy-powered McLaren M8 series, which were the most successful Can-Am racers of all time. Mid-Engine Chevy's were racing nearly as early as Porsche and well before Ford. The C8.R will resume a distinguished heritage.

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    Another great story on Chaparral and Chevrolet by the talented David Kimble: https://www.hotrod.com/articles/chap...-aerodynamics/

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    • #3
      Thank you Binger for adding more important knowledge. Learned a lot!!!
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      Lifetime, annual contributors, and 20+ year members of National Corvette Museum.

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      • #4
        "Chaparral" would would be stirring as C8 name. It not available. It is a boat now. Thanks for the article

        Last edited by SheepDog; 09-02-2019, 07:40 AM.

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        • #5
          Not world famous, but still I was in the hunt. My 1970 mid engined Chevrolet L88 powered Can Am car coming down the hill at Laguna Seca

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          • #6
            Loved, followed and rooted for the Chaparral cars back in the day. Jim Hall was truly one of the most innovative race car designers ever.
            SunKissed, my 2015 2LT, 7MT, Black over Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic, Stingray convertible (One of about 40)

            Purchased 5/2/2015,
            >33,000+ miles

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            • #7
              Here is an idea for the 2020 BASH. Jim Hall is now 84 years young. Why not invite him to give a talk on the Chaparrals with Doug Fehan and the Corvette Racing guys talk on the new C8.R. Have NCM or GM bring the Chaparral 2 racer, (which are still on display at the Permian Basin Petroleum Museum in Midland, Texas) and place it next to a Pratt & Miller C8.R and/or C8 Z51.

              Our chances of hearing from Jim Hall diminish as time goes by, and this would a wonderful opportunity to tie the past of Corvette ME racing with its future.

              Just a thought.....

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              • #8
                Wouldn't a velocity stack option on the C8 look marvelous?

                And for the standard transmission holdouts, the Chapparal used a beefed up two speed Powerglide.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob View Post
                  Wouldn't a velocity stack option on the C8 look marvelous?

                  And for the standard transmission holdouts, the Chapparal used a beefed up two speed Powerglide.
                  Since the existing engine cover is a non-functional piece of plastic, no reason you couldn't replace it with non-functional velocity stacks. Would look awesome!

                  The reason it used an automatic, though, was because the drivers needed their left foot to operate the wing. Hopefully active aero on a future Corvette won't require that!
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                  Purchased 5/2/2015,
                  >33,000+ miles

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                  • #10
                    Always thought the "sucker" car w/ the snowmobile engine running the fan was ingenuous. Guess the SCCA didn't like so much. Kind of like the Granatelli turbine cars.
                    Save the wave.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 73shark View Post
                      Always thought the "sucker" car w/ the snowmobile engine running the fan was ingenuous. Guess the SCCA didn't like so much. Kind of like the Granatelli turbine cars.
                      There were two big problems with the HooverCar. One was that the fans would pick up rocks from the track and spit them back at following cars with tremendous speed. The other was that if the snowmobile motor failed, in an instant the car lost all downforce. That happened in a couple of races with fairly predictable results.
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                      >33,000+ miles

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