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    Here’s a hypothetical question, C8 Z51 VS C7 ZO6 out on track day. Who will have the lower lap time?
    Last edited by Rick M; 08-17-2019, 06:59 PM.
    72 Corvette T-Top, 85 928, 04 CLK 500 Conv, 20 C8 2LT Z51 White/Red HT

    August 20, 2019 status 1100 / February 18, 2020 status 2000 / February 19, 2020 status 3000 / September 8, 2020 status 3300 / September 21, 2020 status 3400 / October 15, 2020 status 6000 / October 15, 2020 left deposit for ZO6 @ MM / Ron Fellows - COS Graduate - April 23/24, 2021

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    Originally posted by Rick M View Post
    Here’s a hypothetical question, C8 Z51 VS C7 ZO6 out on track day. Who will have the lower lap time?
    That great question will start a food fight. Which track are you thinking about. The knowledge guys will want to know that.

    Which track:
    Last edited by SheepDog; 08-17-2019, 07:44 PM.

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    • #3
      I will take a stab and saying first, With an an identical driver on an identical day/weather, on a tight/technical track like Lime Rock, the C8 Z51 will be only fractionally slower than the C7 Z06, but on most tracks the C7 Z06 will always be quicker, with the longer the straightaways and the fewer tight corners, the greater the Z06’s margin.
      Z06 coming late this summer: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, complete high wing/aero package. CCB’s, with every piece of visible carbon fiber available. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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      • #4
        The C6 Z06 with 505 HP and 475 TQ did the Nurburgring in 7:21 in 2009 . The Z06s and ZRs with 150-250 greater HP did not do it much faster in all the years since. The 2020 C8 Z51 is about similar engine power to the C6 Z06, which was also Naturally Aspirated. In fact the C8 is essentially an updated C6 Z06 with the engine relocated and a DCT and the other update goodies. The 2020 C8 is the C6 Z06 reincarnated with a twist or two. And a bit heavier too.

        Here’s a hypothetical fantasy: The C8 [an updated C6 Z06] can now go around the Nurburgring in 7:21 minus 20 seconds, thanks to 10 years of updating, DCT and ME. that's 7:01. That's a result that is fantasized by comparing the C8 to its direct predecessor the C6 Z06.

        And for an alternative hypothetical, just ignore the C7 Z06 and ZR1. There is so much love and respect for the C7 Z06 and ZR1. People do not want their image diminished. Why Compare Rocky Marciano to a modern heavy weight. Too much emotion. Leave it alone.

        Could the C6 Z06 run 20 seconds faster around the Nurburgring if it had a DCT, a ME, modern Z51 and mag shocks etc. etc, etc. and 10 years of development. Think maybe yes it could? Then thats your fantasy answer.

        The answer to the other, the alternative hypothetical question answers the "C8 v C7 Z06 question" without a direct comparison, without directly tarnishing the the reputation of the retired champion.
        Last edited by SheepDog; 08-18-2019, 12:46 AM.

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        • #5
          Thank you for your feedback SheepDog, the C7’s are amazing and beautiful cars and much improved over the C6. After asking that question, I wondered if people were thinking if I was putting down the C7. (I was not) But, Chevrolet is moving forward and trying to build a better mouse trap. We will certainly see in a few months how it holds up on the track. Once again, I would love to own either one; my order is in for a 20 Z51.
          72 Corvette T-Top, 85 928, 04 CLK 500 Conv, 20 C8 2LT Z51 White/Red HT

          August 20, 2019 status 1100 / February 18, 2020 status 2000 / February 19, 2020 status 3000 / September 8, 2020 status 3300 / September 21, 2020 status 3400 / October 15, 2020 status 6000 / October 15, 2020 left deposit for ZO6 @ MM / Ron Fellows - COS Graduate - April 23/24, 2021

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          • #6
            Different drivers, different days...id say its a hard call.

            Id suggest the longer tracks the c7 z06 and the tighter tracks the c8 z51 but its just a guess...

            i think a better call will come when the top auto mags do comparison testing...same day same track...with say mclarens 570..

            we know at vir with car and driver the c7 gs and the 570 were about equal while the c7 z06 dominated...

            will the c8 z51 surpass the 570s?

            Might be insightful.
            Last edited by JB; 08-18-2019, 07:47 AM.

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            • #7
              Z06 vs the world is what I’m looking forward to! That will be interesting.........and fun!
              Black over Sky Cool Gray.....2LT.....Z51.....FE4.....E60.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rick M View Post
                Here’s a hypothetical question, C8 Z51 VS C7 ZO6 out on track day. Who will have the lower lap time?
                Is the C7 Z06 a manual or Auto. The DCT mated to the engine is hard to beat, it’s incredibly fast, the C7 Z auto had many complaints of shifting slow and I agree. The issue with the C8 is weight, with a benefit of DCT, ME, no drive train loss ieTQ tube and getting power to the ground. we won’t know till magazines test the car?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Meldoon View Post
                  Z06 vs the world is what I’m looking forward to! That will be interesting.........and fun!
                  Every car that can go under 3.0 seconds to 60 MPH and in the process looks as exciting inciting and out as the C8, will be big fun!
                  Z06 coming late this summer: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, complete high wing/aero package. CCB’s, with every piece of visible carbon fiber available. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                  • #10
                    C8 Z51 dominates the C7 ZO6 on all the but the highest speed tracks.

                    There's also a limp mode joke to be made here, but I'll leave that to someone else.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rick M View Post
                      Here’s a hypothetical question, C8 Z51 VS C7 ZO6 out on track day. Who will have the lower lap time?
                      The Better drive will win..

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                      • #12
                        I'll let you know. My current C7 Z06 will be replaced by a C8 Z51. I don't actually know how the tires compare to the Cups, but if the grip is similar I would think the C8 would give me a run for my money.
                        Convertible delivered 9/11/20 — Long Beach Red/Natural, 3LT, Z51, FE4 Suspension, E60 Front Lift, FA5 Carbon Fiber Trim, Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents, 5ZZ High Wing, D84 Carbon Flash Top & Nacelles, ZYC Carbon Flash Mirrors, 3N9 Tan Belts, VQK Splash Guards.

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                        • #13
                          CarBob, Obviously it will depend on the track, a tight twisty track the C8 will have an advantage. If there are a lot of straight-aways, the horsepower of the ZO6 will come into play. When my car comes in, probably next year, I plan on going to Pocono and New Jersey Motorsports Park.
                          72 Corvette T-Top, 85 928, 04 CLK 500 Conv, 20 C8 2LT Z51 White/Red HT

                          August 20, 2019 status 1100 / February 18, 2020 status 2000 / February 19, 2020 status 3000 / September 8, 2020 status 3300 / September 21, 2020 status 3400 / October 15, 2020 status 6000 / October 15, 2020 left deposit for ZO6 @ MM / Ron Fellows - COS Graduate - April 23/24, 2021

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                          • #14
                            Driver will be biggest difference. I bet average corvette drivers will be faster in C8 as turn in will be much faster and the added balance and traction will allow much quicker and confident exit acceleration. However for a guy like randy pobst where a manual is barely a difference in track time I’d say he will still be faster in a Z06, my guess by around 1-2 seconds.

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                            • #15
                              Manual shifts takes 300- 400 milliseconds to complete by the best drivers. DCT takes 100 milliseconds or less to complete. Also manual shifting, the car is not accelerating durning that manual shift. The DCT is always in a gear. (At times it is in 2 gears with the clutches doing there magic)Road race tracks vary, but if you shift 15 to 20 times per lap, (normal at most tracks) times the number of laps, the DCT will have a huge advantage. Fact!
                              3LT Long Beach Red , Z51, FE4 , ZZ3, Black interior ,38S red stitching, Q8T, FA5, ER1, CFX, and R8C

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