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  • C8 HOT in Germany Right Now

    Germany is buzzing about the C8. Here’s a covering of Das Bilt (with thanks). Thanks to “CEightCorvette” for finding this rendering.

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    BTW, “mittelmotor” is “mid engine.”

    At the Bash two months ago, I saw this group of five German journalists who were getting ready to interview Tadge. I listened in to the ten minute interview. They had come over to talk with him about the C8. [Thankfully the whole interview was in English.]

    Then doing a little more exploring, I came across this article done just five days ago. Notice that they cite CorvetteBlogger. How’s your German (or Google translate)? The article states that it will start in U.S.A.at under $64,000 US.

    Originally posted by auto-motor-under-sport
    CHEVROLET CORVETTE C8 ZORA (2019)

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    Kurd vor Launch gibts neue Bilder

    In der Chevrolet Corvette-Geschichte bahnt sich der größte Einschnitt seit über 60 Jahren an. Die nächste Corvette-Generation C8 kommt als Mittelmotorsportler. Patentamtsanmeldungen lassen vermuten: Die C8 wird „ZORA“ heißen. Reservieren kann man sie bereits. Präsentiert wird sie am 17 Juli 2019.

    Das Gerücht wabert schon seit längerer Zeit durch die US-Medienlandschaft: Kommt die neue CorvetteC8 mit einem revolutionären Konzeptwechsel zur Detroit Motor Show 2019? Bekommt der beliebte US-Sportwagen erstmals einen Mittelmotor? Einige Sportwagen-Fans werden diese Nachrichten vermutlich mit Freudentränen in den Augen lesen. Die Corvette Stingray ist schon mit Frontmotor eine längs- und querdynamische Wucht für unter 80.000 Euro.

    Mit Mittelmotor-V8 wird sie vermutlich teurer. Aber vermutlich auch noch sportlicher: dank besserer Gewichtsverteilung und Konzentration der Masse im Fahrzeugzentrum. Auf das Debüt dürfen Fans aber wohl noch länger warten. Auf Detroit Motor Show 2019 war von der neuen Corvette nichts zu sehen. Jetzt ist aber endlich klar, wann GM die neue C8 Corvette präsentieren wird. Der Autobauer nannte jetzt den 18. Juli 2019 als Termin und schob gleich ein paar Werkserlkönigbilder nach. Auch auch neueste Erlkönig-Fotos zeigen die C8 weniger getarnt bei Testfahrten auf dem Nürburgring.

    Zuvor hatte sich der geplante Start mehrfach verzögert. Der US-Blog GM Authority hatte aus Insiderkreisen erfahren, dass die neue Mittelmotor-Corvette lange an massiven Problemen litt. Unter anderem habe es Schwierigkeiten mit der elektrischen Anlage gegeben, hier wurde noch weitere Entwicklungszeit benötigt. Die Berichte sprachen seinerzeit von rund sechs weiteren Monaten. Um welche Teile der elektrischen Anlage es sich handelt wurde leider nicht bekannt. Nachgearbeitet werden musste offenbar auch das Aluminiumchassis. Das scheint den Kräften der Top-Motoren mit rund 900 PS nicht gewachsen zu sein. Bei massivem Leistungseinsatz soll sich das Alugebilde soweit verformt haben, das es zu Rissen in der Heckscheibe kam. Auch hier mussten die Entwickler nochmal ran.

    Schon bevor klar war, wann die C8 kommen wird, konnten sich echte Fans bereits für den neuen Sportwagen in einer Reservierungsliste eintragen lassen. Das Angebot kommt von Kerbeck Corvette in Atlantic City, dem größten Corvette-Händler der Welt. Ein Platz auf der Liste gibt es für 1.000 Dollar Anzahlung. Sobald die Preisgestaltung für die C8 bekanntgegeben wird, können Kunden entscheiden, ihre Reservierung in einen Kauf umzumünzen oder davon zurückzutreten. Dann gibt es auch die 1.000 Dollar zurück. Wer bestellen will, muss mindestens fünf Prozent vom Kaufpreis anzahlen - ein Rücktritt ist dann jedoch nicht mehr möglich.
    Auf den jüngsten Erlkönigbildern zeigt die neue Corvette C8 nur noch unter Klebefolie versteckt, ihre wahre Karosserieform. Die Front wirkt kurz mit schmalen Scheinwerfern und einer grimmigen Schürze. Die Fronthaube ist konturiert und erhebt sich zu den Kotflügeln. Die Fahrgastzelle rückt nach vorne und gibt dem Mittelmotor Platz. Ihn kann man künftig durch eine Glasabdeckung

    Diese läuft sanft gen Heck aus. In der Seitenansicht zeigt sich der Supersportler mit großen Kühluft-Öffnungen, die ausreichend Luft zum V8-Motor schaufeln werden. Die hinteren Kotflügel fallen stark aus, die Überhänge knapp. Das Heck der C8 ist nicht weniger spektakulär: Bereits unter der Tarnung gut zu erkennen: Die schmalen tiefliegenden Leuchten, der Diffusor mit den doppelt ausgeführten Auspuffendrohren. Der Hingucker ist jedoch der gebogene Spoiler, der die Form des Hecks aufnimmt. Insgesamt wirkt die neue Corvette dynamischer und wendiger. Das beweist auch das jüngste Twitter-Bild.

    Auf den ersten Fotos vom Cockpit erscheint der Instrumententräger noch abgedeckt, allerdings sind Lenkrad und Instrumente gut zu erkennen. Das Volant erscheint oben und unten abgeflacht, vermutlich mit einer 12-Uhr-Markierung, die auf den Fotos noch abgeklebt ist. Der Pralltopf ist länglich, die beiden Lenkradstreben streben nach unten. Auf der linken Strebe sind die Funktionstasten für den Tempomaten untergebracht, rechts erscheinen die Schalter für Lenkradheizung, Sprachsteuerung und Telefonfunktion sowie ein Scrollrad. Hinter dem Lenkrad sind die Schaltwippen zu erkennen. Dazu die beiden Lenkstockhebel für Licht/Blinker und die Scheibenwischerfunktionen.

    Das Cockpit erscheint komplett digital inklusive des Zeigers. Zentral prangt ein großer Drehzahlmesser in dessen Mitte das Tempo angezeigt wird. Links ist ein G-Force-Messer für die Querbeschleunigung zu erkennen. Auch die Kühlwassentemperatur sowie die Tankanzeige sind digital. Unklar ist, ob der Fahrer verschiedene Anzeigen-Modi einstellen kann. Rechts neben dem Drehzahlmesser erscheinen diverse Textanzeigen. Wenngleich die C8 mit konventionellen Rückspiegeln ausgestattet ist, so ist der Rückspiegel digital ausgeführt. Dessen Screen zeigt das Bild einer rückwärtsgerichteten Kamera an.

    Die neuen Erlkönig-Bilder zeigen nun die Unterschiede der C8 zum Vorgängermodell C7. In der Seitenansicht ist die kürzere Motorhaube und das flacher auslaufende Dach gut zu erkennen. Beim Vergleich der beiden Heckpartien stechen der stark gebogene Heckspoiler und die außen liegenden doppelflutigen Auspuffendrohre ins Auge. Die mittig angeordnete Vierrohr-Auspuffanlag des C7 ist Geschichte. Stattdessen ist dort ein breiter Diffusor untergebracht. Auch das Kennzeichenfeld rückt beim C8 deutlich höher. Der Front-Vergleich zeigt die unterschiedlichen Außenspiegel sowie die anders geformte Motorhaube erkennen. Die Front des C8 wirkt trotz der Tarnung spitzer und aggressiver. Augenfällig sind auch die großen Öffnungen an der Seite und die starken Sicken.

    V8-Motoren mit bis zu 860 PS

    Die Corvette C8 folgt klassischen Mittelmotor-Supersportwagenansätzen mit einem neuen GM-6,2-Liter-V8-Kompressormotor mit zwei obenliegenden Nockenwellen. Zu den weiteren Features des neuen LT2 getauften Aluminium-Achtzylinders gehören eine variable Ventilsteuerung und Direkteinspritzung. Gemutmaßt werden zwischen 480 bis 500 PS. Gepaart werden könnte der neue Motor mit einem ebenfalls neuen 7-Gang-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, das auf den Namen Tremec TR 9007 hört. Als weitere Motorenoptionen werden noch ein 4,2-Liter-V8 und eine Version mit 5,5 Liter gehandelt. Beide setzen auf Biturboaufladung und 32 Ventile. Die Leistungsrange liegt zwischen 500 und 860 PS.

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    https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...g-mittelmotor/

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  • #2
    I dont read german bit thanks

    good to hear it will start under 64 grand

    i thought we would see this at five grand more than the 57 grand the c7 starts at...

    leading me to 62 grand plus destination whatever they charge these days for that? A grand? Give or take a few hundred...so that in effect is under 64 grand...

    porsche charges 3400 for the dct...called a pdk so in my opinion the 57 grand plus 3400 is 60,400...im sire gm added some other previous option on the c7 as a standard feature so this all makes sense..

    would i have preferred a slightly lower starting price? Of course who wouldnt...but its no big deal..

    the big question in my opinion is what the z51 fe4 package costs...

    id also like to see the front lift system come in around a grand..give or take a few hundred...

    to me those two options are key features ..

    all the rest of the options are personal preferences etc....

    brake caliber colors, seat belt colors....paint tintcoats, dual color interiors...1Lt, 2Lt and 3 LT interior trims, glass tops, carbon fiber tops, carbon weave tops...retractable tops...all the different color wheels...bolstered seats sounds interesting, lumbar seat features is not a big one for me...but many will live it..

    then you have competition seats...probably carbon ceramic rotors? Thats always a big ticket option to save unsprung weiht and never to need replacement for street driving...

    im honing in on z51 fe4, front lift kit, bolster drivers seat...
    thanks for posting up...
    five days to go!

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    • #3
      Sprichst du Deutsch, a little. They talk highly of the car. And announce it will cost around 80,000 Euro or $90,400, if the car is selling here for $64,000. Remember, the duty on US autos is high in Europe. We are the only ones that let the world dump it's product on our shores with little tax (about 2.9%) where some countries charge as much as 100% for our cars to be sold in their countries. Most likely to get a base Corvette in Europe it will cost between $110,000 to $130,000 US. They feel that is a deal compared to higher expensive cars .

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      • #4
        Thank you Zora69. Glad they are speaking highly of it — as we all will in just 5 days and 4 1/2 more hours.
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        • #5
          We are not allowed to talk politics but that tiny tarrif into america has to change while they europe and asia tariff the hell out of our goods imported into their country...

          we allowed this to occur after ww2 so these asian and european countries could rebuild...

          we just never said enough is enough until this past year.

          one way or the other...fair trade should be implemented...

          interstingly enough only in america is national pride is taboo..

          most citizens around the world do prefer to support their homegrown products when purchasing and its the fringe that buys i,ported products...

          i always prefer to support our countrys products whenever possible especially on the second largest purchase an american family makes...

          its not an absolute but a buying preference when possible..

          i also happen to believe gm products are often superior from a durability standard...not to mention corvette superior performance...

          when it comes to my wife...i suggest american but defer to her preference when an american product isnt a viable alternative...

          hence the alfa romeo stelvio..

          if gm offered a corvette crosstrek competitor id buy the corvette crosstrek in a minute.

          cadillacs simply lost its way...(following audis pricing strategy was a huge fail...IMO)

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          • #6
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            On the latest Erlkönig pictures shows the new Corvette C8 hidden only under adhesive film, their true body shape. The front briefly acts with narrow headlights and a grim apron. The bonnet is contoured and rises to the fenders. The passenger compartment moves forward and gives the mid-engine space. You can see it in the future through a glass cover

            This runs gently to the rear. The side view shows the super sports car with large cooling air openings that will scoop enough air to the V8 engine. The rear fenders are strong, the overhangs scarce. The rear of the C8 is no less spectacular: already visible under the camouflage: the narrow low-lying lights, the diffuser with the double exhaust pipes. The eye-catcher, however, is the curved spoiler, which takes the shape of the stern. Overall, the new Corvette looks dynamic and agile. This is also proven by the recent Twitter picture.

            On the first photos of the cockpit, the instrument panel appears covered, but the steering wheel and instruments are clearly visible. The valance appears flattened above and below, presumably with a 12 o'clock marker, which is still taped on the photos. The baffle is elongated, the two steering wheel struts strive down. On the left strut, the function keys for the cruise control are housed, right appear the switches for steering wheel heating, voice control and telephone function and a scroll wheel. Behind the steering wheel, the paddles can be seen. In addition the two steering column levers for light / turn signals and the wiper functions.

            The cockpit appears completely digital including the pointer. Central emblazoned a large tachometer in the middle of the tempo is displayed. On the left is a G-Force knife for lateral acceleration. The cooling water temperature and the fuel gauge are also digital. It is unclear whether the driver can set different display modes. Right next to the tachometer appear various text messages. Although the C8 is equipped with conventional rear-view mirrors, the rear-view mirror is digital. Its screen displays the image of a backward camera.

            The new Erlkönig pictures now show the differences between the C8 and its predecessor C7. In the side view, the shorter bonnet and the flat-running roof are clearly visible. When comparing the two rear sections of the strongly curved rear spoiler and the exterior twin-tailpipe tailpipes stand out. The centrally located four-pipe exhaust system of the C7 is history. Instead, a wide diffuser is housed there. The license plate field is also significantly higher on the C8. The front comparison shows the different exterior mirrors as well as the differently shaped bonnet. The front of the C8 looks sharper and more aggressive despite the camouflage. Also striking are the large openings on the side and the thick beads.

            V8 engines with up to 860 hp

            The Corvette C8 follows classic mid-engine super sports car concepts with a new GM 6.2-liter V8 supercharged engine with dual overhead camshafts. Other features of the new LT2 baptized aluminum eight-cylinder engine include variable valve timing and direct injection. Be measured between 480 to 500 hp. The new engine could be paired with a likewise new 7-speed dual-clutch transmission, which is named after the Tremec TR 9007. As a further engine options are still a 4.2-liter V8 and a version with 5.5 liters traded. Both rely on biturbo charging and 32 valves. The power range is between 500 and 860 hp.
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            • #7
              NBoth otpional engines are turbocharged in 4.2 and 5.5 liter configuration...

              that entire article was a nice read.

              thank you Brad66 for translating that for us.

              is the dct a seven speed or 8 speed?

              i did enjoy the authors perspective and insight...

              so good not to have to read about how crappy corvette interiors have been in past years as so many american writers find their way to mention ad nauseam ..,..

              id say it was a positive article ...with what little could be discussed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JB View Post

                porsche charges 3400 for the dct...called a pdk so in my opinion the 57 grand plus 3400 is 60,400...im sire gm added some other previous option on the c7 as a standard feature so this all makes sense..
                five days to go!
                Porsche options prices are ridiculous. VW only asks $1100 for their DCT.

                On pricing, remember that prices in Germany include VAT (value added tax), where US prices do not include price. And then there's the fact that American car makers don't really seriously target the European market with American market cars. Mercedes sells hundreds of thousands of cars in the US each year. Porsche 55,000 to 60,000, which makes the cost of conforming to US regulations relatively low per car. GM sells, what, a thousand Corvettes in Europe? That makes the cost of conforming to their regulations, per car, much higher. If GM is serious about making the C8 a world car, the cost could come down quite a bit.
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                • #9
                  Thank you very much Brad for making it readable for us!
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                  • #10
                    Fun AutoBild C8 video. Here are a couple of screen prints, but worth watching it (though the beginning is different by also nice C7 footage).

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                    Last edited by John; 07-13-2019, 08:07 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Ich glaube dass diese Photos sind die akkurateste die wir sehen wurde bis der Reveal. (I believe these are the most accurate renders that we will see before the Reveal).

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                      • #12
                        Das ist sehr gut. Danke. (That is very good. Thank you.)
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                        • #13
                          I thought it was interesting to read that the article talks about the $1,000.00 refundable deposit by Kerbeck and then elaborates that once MSRP is established, customers that have made this deposit can decide to stay with their orders or withdraw with refund. However, once you continue with order then you must at least put down 5% of MSRP as a down payment and withdrawal is no longer possible.
                          In my previous experiences with ordering 4 corvettes, I never heard of a 5% down payment.
                          Thanks for sharing this article, John. It's good to see that the C8 has created such interest internationally. This article also pointed out the challenges GM had experienced with rework of the aluminum chassis and electric system which caused production delay. Very positive description of the C8.
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                          • #14
                            Thank you Heidi. Each dealer has different deposit standards. Being out front with whatever they are, is the key. As is putting in writing that the C8 will sell at list, which the all top three dealers have all already done (Criswell, MacMulkin and Kerbeck).

                            Again, each have different deposit amounts. Some will even confirm that only $1,000 deposit, and can then order you car without further money until you pick it up — knowing that they will have lines and lines for each one that for whatever reason the custom backs out on even at that point. However, for the customer who orders a tri-color, multiple color override option (meaning that GM is not comfortable with such disparate colors being ordered together), I sure can understand a dealer asking much more for ordering that 1-of-1 but “few would want it,” combination. How about about a C7 convertible being ordered with yellow paint, a red interior and a blue top.

                            As always find a great and honest dealer, and learn what their written policies are — for they differ widely (as does state policy on whether deposit are by law always refundable).
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                            • #15
                              Ja, meine kleine Corvette ist der bombe und ich sehr schnell fahren.
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