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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 Pricing Spreadsheet: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...9Chvp%E2%80%9D
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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  • #61
    Originally posted by Wingnut View Post
    a difficult to reach electric motor.
    I've had the frunk tub out of my car, 5 minutes if you take your time. After that the electric motor is bolted in right behind it with nothing in the way. If anything it's WAY easier to access than the LT2.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by STINGmole View Post
      Are the electric motors ever a big concern? I'd be more worried about the battery replacement cost and life, and it doesn't seem like it's in an easily accessible location. Also the electronics on all new vehicles have questionable reliability long term.
      Originally posted by STINGmole View Post

      I was not referring so much to the solid state electronics (or control modules) as I was to all of the other components. The wiring and connectors, batteries, sensors, screens and displays, switches and relays, etc, that tend to develop gremlins or intermittent faults with age...and yes, there's always the dreaded software as well!


      The batteries are easily accessible simply buy unbolting the aluminum plate on the bottom of the tunnel. But since there are still original model year Tesla Model S cars in use, I'm not particularly worried about battery life or the other electric drivetrain components.. Toyota now warrants the batteries on the Prius Prime for 10 year / 150,000 miles.

      As far as sensors, screens, displays, etc., and software, avoid any modern car. The C8 is a rolling computer network and everything is controlled by electronic components and software. Modern cars have more complex software than fighter jets (except probably the F35) and space ships.

      This is from October of 2021:

      A Modern Car Runs on 100 Million Lines of Code — but Who Will Write Them in the Future?

      Cars are very much rolling computers today. They contain a network of electronic control units (ECUs), with between 70 and 100 being installed in every modern vehicle. These computing units control engine functions, regulate braking behaviour and monitor the air conditioning system. The next step will be HCPs (High-Performance Computing Platforms), which will enable significantly more computing power to be integrated into an ECU.

      The higher computing power and integration are necessary because the number of lines of code and the complexity of the functions in the vehicle is increasing year by year. One number may make this clear: 100 million. This is how many lines of code feature in today’s car. By comparison, a Boeing 787 Dreamliner only has 14 million. Software is taking over in-car-tasks


      There are also many lines of code behind the entertainment system and navigation. Added to this is the possibility of connecting smartphones and other devices to the car, which is also only possible with complex software. And it doesn’t stop there: software is taking over more and more important in-car tasks. The most important functions today and in the future include data exchange with other road users and the infrastructure, updating vehicles from the cloud, and eventually even autonomous driving. By the way, there is a great podcast episode out there, in which Porsche AG CFO Lutz Meschke gives interesting insights into the future of mobility.

      The development of automotive software has become a rather tricky balancing act. Safety regulations and customer requirements in the form of voluminous specifications need to be fulfilled. The conventional development processes in the industry are usually time-driven: there is a predefined schedule that defines certain milestones. Our clients expect regular results at predetermined dates.
      https://medium.com/next-level-german...he%20Future%3F

      The infographic seen here provides some interesting comparisons (it's too big to post directly):

      https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mil...lines-of-code/
      Last edited by meyerweb; 01-23-2023, 09:57 AM.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by bartruff View Post

        A lack of interest....
        I guess my point is that the E-Ray isn't any different than any Corvette, or any sports car, in that regard.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Phil1098 View Post

          I've had the frunk tub out of my car, 5 minutes if you take your time. After that the electric motor is bolted in right behind it with nothing in the way. If anything it's WAY easier to access than the LT2.
          Looking at the pictures, the E-motor appears to have some accessibility, but not sure it can be removed from the front as opposed to underneath. The center beam (empty in the SR/Z06) is filled with several batteries and a control unit at the front, any or all of which could need repair and also might be time consuming ($) to access and repair/replace. Not saying this is good or bad yet, just a valid issue if considering the model, especially long-term and past warranty.

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          • #65
            Not sure anyone wants to own any current model cars out of warranty, I know I don't.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Phil1098 View Post
              Not sure anyone wants to own any current model cars out of warranty, I know I don't.
              Same here. They are prohibitively expensive to repair, even if you perform the labor yourself.
              Ray

              2022 Z51 Silver Flare Metallic Coupe #8842. 3LT; GT2 seats; Black; Front Lift; Mag Ride; Engine Appearance Package; Racing stripes; Carbon flash accents. Sold my 2007 Ferrari F430 F1 for my C8. Owned a total of six Corvettes including 2 Z06.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by meyerweb View Post

                I guess my point is that the E-Ray isn't any different than any Corvette, or any sports car, in that regard.
                Ok...my point is that he asked about the E Ray not the Corvette or any other sports car or the trillions of other things the general public doesn't know or care about.....

                I remember as a 12 year old hitting a game winning homer and being so self-important and full of myself......till my dad reminded me that 800 million Chinese could care less...... a life lesson ...
                Last edited by bartruff; 01-23-2023, 06:52 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bartruff View Post
                  I remember as a 12 year old hitting a game winning homer and being so self-important and full of myself......till my dad reminded me that 800 million Chinese could care less...... a life lesson ...
                  That's great! I like your dads style, talk about perspective. I told my boys when they were playing high school sports that it's fine to dream about pro sports, but if they weren't on the front page of the sports section week in and week out, they probably wouldn't play college, much less pro. I said, "there are 50,000 of you playing in high school, there are a a few dozen pro jobs, you do the math and figure the odds."

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by bartruff View Post

                    I remember as a 12 year old hitting a game winning homer and being so self-important and full of myself......till my dad reminded me that 800 million Chinese could care less...... a life lesson ...
                    As a father, I would feel horrible to diminish an achievement like a game-winning home run like that. He should have let you revel in the moment.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by My1stVette View Post

                      As a father, I would feel horrible to diminish an achievement like a game-winning home run like that. He should have let you revel in the moment.
                      Don't join the Army.
                      Ray

                      2022 Z51 Silver Flare Metallic Coupe #8842. 3LT; GT2 seats; Black; Front Lift; Mag Ride; Engine Appearance Package; Racing stripes; Carbon flash accents. Sold my 2007 Ferrari F430 F1 for my C8. Owned a total of six Corvettes including 2 Z06.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Phil1098 View Post
                        The reality is that in the USA, Ford has only sold 66k Mach-E Mustangs in two full years of production. They market the ugly thing in over 30 countries. So it's entirely misleading to act like it's some run away sales success here at home. It's niche level numbers at best when you consider it's an SUV. The Ford Escape (in the USA) sold 100,000 MORE units than the Mach-E in 2022.
                        More like an electric Focus!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Phil1098 View Post

                          That's great! I like your dads style, talk about perspective. I told my boys when they were playing high school sports that it's fine to dream about pro sports, but if they weren't on the front page of the sports section week in and week out, they probably wouldn't play college, much less pro. I said, "there are 50,000 of you playing in high school, there are a a few dozen pro jobs, you do the math and figure the odds."
                          Well, that was way back when there were only 800 million Chinese and there were no participation trophies or helicopter parents telling their kids how great they were...

                          I got a kick out of Mark Few, the basketball coach at Gonzaga....... when he said...... if he would come back and coach in another life, he would only recruit at orphanages..........

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Wingnut View Post

                            Looking at the pictures, the E-motor appears to have some accessibility, but not sure it can be removed from the front as opposed to underneath. The center beam (empty in the SR/Z06) is filled with several batteries and a control unit at the front, any or all of which could need repair and also might be time consuming ($) to access and repair/replace. Not saying this is good or bad yet, just a valid issue if considering the model, especially long-term and past warranty.
                            As posted previously, the bottom of the center tunnel is a separate piece held on with a bunch of Torx fasteners. Once on a lift, with an impact wrench, probably won't take more than 15-20 minutes to get that plate off and access the batteries.
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