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    Mid Engine C8 Corvette – Jim’s Response

    Hello everyone.

    Originally, I was just going to keep my mouth shut relative to reports about my comments on the mid-engine platform in general and the challenges the C8 will need to overcome to be the best Vette yet.

    I believe those who have listened to both podcasts realize that, in my mind, every generation of corvette was better than the generation before, and the C8 will be no different.

    On the Overcrest podcast, I will admit I could have used a better word than “worried”. But in an interview, you can’t cut and paste. Naturally, I listened to the podcast several times and until yesterday had no idea it would generate so much publicity. I’ll try to go through my thought process at the time of the Overcrest Podcast then forever hold my peace.

    When I said I was worried about the C8, every example I gave was for every mid-engine car I drove except the C8. I said I told my boss we would have to reinvent the wheel and do it better. I never alluded to the fact we didn’t.

    I also mentioned to Tadge when the conception of the C8 was in process, as far as I can recall, the C7 beat most if not all the mid-engine cars with comparable weight and HP it was pitted against. Again, the need to engineer the car better than its competitors, with no reference to the fact we didn’t.

    During my 15 years on the Corvette, I’ve attended countless shootouts. One example was the 2017 Road and Track Performance Car of the Year with the C7 Grand Sport. The competition was stiff. It included:
    1. The Acura NSX
    2. Audi R8 V10 plus
    3. BMW M4 GTS
    4. Jaguar F-type SVR
    5. Lotus Evora 400
    6. Mercedes AMG C63 S
    7. Nissan GT-R Nismo
    8. Porsche 911 Turbo S
    We were at the NCM racetrack. I can’t remember the drivers name, but he chose to drive the Grand Sport first. He did 2 or 3 laps, laid down a time and brought it in. Going first is an unfavorable position, because any driver will go faster the more laps he lays down. Nonetheless the Grand Sport beat every car except for the 911 Turbo S.

    The 911 was the final car driven, let me tell you, I can’t remember how many laps he did, but 10 or 15 is not an exaggeration. He would run 1 or 2, then cool down and go back at it. Clearly, he felt the 911 Turbo S should theoretically beat the Grand Sport. Finally it did, by a few hundredths of a second.

    I felt compelled to provide this example just to put into context my thought process leading to my opinion of having to engineer the C8 better than its competition. I will say again, never stating that it didn’t.

    And…..Relative to the golf clubs, really, that’s just a personal preference for Jim Mero. It’s no different than saying I prefer a Silverado over a Colorado because it has better utility. It was not a dig on the C8, it was simply a statement of what I desire in a sports car for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

    I’m not sure if this provided clarity for any of you. I would encourage you to listen to both podcasts, Overcrest episode 110 starting at about 53 minutes and Speed Secrets episode 123 starting at about 43 minutes. I hope then things will become clear.

    I will reiterate one more time, each generation of the Corvette has been better than the generation before, and the C8 will be no different.

    Thank you for your time,
    Jim


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    Thank you Jag. I am focusing on this one sentence Jim just wrote.

    Originally posted by JimMero
    I will reiterate one more time, each generation of the Corvette has been better than the generation before, and the C8 will be no different.
    Last edited by John; 06-26-2019, 09:12 AM.
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    • #3
      Thank You . I did see Jim Meros video and this does give clarification. BUT, did Mr. Mero POSSIBLY put his foot back in his mouth by reiterating that the C8 will be a better car than the PREVIOUS (7s) Corvettes. Maybe. We will see on July 18. The C7 is going to be hard to beat and with the anticipated ONLY entry car Base Corvette to be offered in the C8 with Grand Sports, ZO6s and Zr1s still running around will the C8 , for the first years until higher performance Corvettes are offered, WILL the C8 really be considered better?????
      GM really needs to expedite more than the Base C8 into production to keep the dream alive.

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      • #4
        Tadge will be the first to admit that the entry car would not better than the best of the entire last generation. But their goal is to best the next higher model, e..g, for the entry C8 to be better than the GS, and in some ways to be better than the Z06. NOT in all ways however, for to have an entry 2020 Stingray to do better than 0-60 in 2.95 seconds would be unheard of.

        I would bet that each of us in hindsight, have something we said that we wish we could have retracted. I know I have hundreds of such statements I have made in my life. As some genius said, “hindsight is 20/20.”
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jagamajajaran
          https://jimmero.com/mid-engine-c8-co...jims-response/



          I will reiterate one more time, each generation of the Corvette has been better than the generation before, and the C8 will be no different.

          Thank you for your time,
          Jim
          Jag very good of you to reach out to Jim and let him clarify his position on the C8. It will be interesting to see if any of the Automotive media will let him clarify what they tried to do in creating a controvercy.


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          • #6
            I interpret that as the entry C8 will perform as well as or better than the C7 GS.

            Awesome!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by craz8
              i interpret that as the entry c8 will perform as well as or better than the c7 gs.

              Awesome!
              well i sure as hell hope so !

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              • #8
                Thanks for the clarification. I thought that the podcast was hard to interpret because of the intense confidentiality and controlled nondisclosure. There is near certainty that the C8 is performance superior.

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                • #9
                  I also mentioned to Tadge when the conception of the C8 was in process, as far as I can recall, the C7 beat most if not all the mid-engine cars with comparable weight and HP it was pitted against. Again, the need to engineer the car better than its competitors, with no reference to the fact we didn’t.

                  This is the statement that got my attention. It’s great if it beats the previous generation but it’s really important that it beats its direct competition.
                  There is a madness to my method!
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