2021 Ferrari SF90-Stradale vs 202X Corvette Zora/ZR1

[jagamajajaran]

The 2021 SF90 Stradale

- V8 Engine, 3990 cc, 780 cv (769 hp) max power at 7500 rpm via an "internal combustion engine integrated with three electric motors, two of which are independent and located on the front axle, with the third at the rear between the engine and the gearbox" with total powertrain output of 986 hp.
- All wheel drive
- 8 speed, dual clutch gearbox
- Estimated MSRP around $500,000 USD
- "Eyes on the Road, Hands on the Wheel - The Head Up Display is another part of the innovative HMI (Human Machine Interface) and allows various data to be projected onto the windshield within the driver's field of vision so that their attention is not distracted from driving." (Corvette wishes to welcome Ferrari to the 90's!)
- "The tail lights have also evolved quite radically from Ferrari’s iconic round shape. The eye-catching, more horizontal luminous rings create a more horizontal perception of the tail lights which in turn visually lowers the height of the tail." (Ferrari wishes to thank Camaro for the inspiration behind this design.)

(Source: Ferrari SF90 website)






The 202X ZR1/Zora

- Total powertrain output rumored at 1,000 hp via similar hybrid design
- Potential all wheel drive
- Likely dual clutch gearbox
- Estimated MSRP under $200,000 (as low as $169,000 even?)
- Head Up Display? Definitely a good chance that this isn't going away any time soon.
- Camaro tailights? Nah, but since Chevrolet shares similar design cues across their vehicle platforms, there will always be some who say the Corvette has Camaro taillights.


It's exciting to think about what the Corvette Team has planned over the coming years!

[John]

Thanks Jag. Re the roughly $1M Ferrari, If anyone needs to apologize for its tail lights, IMO, the Ferrari ones do not fit with any lines on the back fascia, e.g., do not echo anything else on the back of that car.



I will happily stick with, be happy with the progressive, digital C8’s tail lights instead.

[ZORA 69]

I will buy a new Corvette and a Summer get Away with that Ferrari Money, and be Happier.

[meyerweb]

All I can say is the back end of the C8 HAS to be better looking that that weird mishmash that is the SF90.

[Brian Kissel]

I will be happily awaiting the ZR1 Zora, or what ever they call. Money in hand GM, just test it, perfect it, and then sell it to me.
Thanks
Regards Brian

[Sparro]

I personally think that SF90 is one of the hawtted Ferrari's I've seen. But i'm happily awaiting for my C8 allocation.

[Ssscooter66]

I will buy a new Corvette and a Summer get Away with that Ferrari Money, and be Happier.

Summer with a new Corvette and get away with the extra money would make one special summer I’d never forget .. I’ll also have to say the rear of this is UgLy to but that’s just my opinion and all that really matters is the that the owner likes it ...

[Fireeagle]

I had heard the cost of the SF90 was going to be half a million pounds which would put it North of $600k and that it was going to be more mass produced than your typical Ferrari. I think it's a nice car from the videos I've seen, but the price point is so far above the anticipated price of the C8, sales will probably be 100:1 in favor of the C8.

[meyerweb]

^^^

Ferrari isn't interested in competing in the Corvette market, nor is GM interested in competing with Ferrari (except perhaps on the track).

[jagamajajaran]

^^^

Ferrari isn't interested in competing in the Corvette market, nor is GM interested in competing with Ferrari (except perhaps on the track).

Not only is GM interested in competing with Ferrari, they're also interested in beating Ferrari, and not just on the track...

[jagamajajaran]

Thanks Jag. Re the roughly $1M Ferrari,

John according to Top Gear..."On top of all that, the SF90 will cost about £400,000. The LaFerrari was £1million. So that makes the new SF90 a bargain. Faster, cleverer, less than half the price. In six years. That’s some achievement."

$505,520 USD

[meyerweb]

Not only is GM interested in competing with Ferrari, they're also interested in beating Ferrari, and not just on the track...

GM is never going to attempt to compete in the very low production numbers, very high price, marketplace that Ferrari operates in. The most expensive Corvette is considerably cheaper than the lowest priced Ferrari. GM is happy to trumpet sales numbers, but both GM management and buyers know that the two cars are in two very different markets. The vette outsells the Ferrari BECAUSE it's in an affordable market segment. "I almost bought a LaFerrari, but decided the Corvette was a better car" said no one. Ever.

Sorry but no, GM isn't competing with Ferrari. Porsche, yes. Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg and the like, no.

[John]

Ferrari and Corvette buyers will not complete in a traditional way, but more than a few Ferrari buyers, their knowing that every mile they put on their special occasions, super expansive cars costs them dearly, would be happy to buy, look at, drive a C8 as their daily driver. I know of a couple of those exact buyers, as do top dealers who have them on their C8 pre-ordering lists.

Might during the entire run of the C8, current Ferrari owners buy around 100 C8’s total. For sure. That would be 25X the number that bought a C7, and would result in a happy General Motors.

[jagamajajaran]

Sorry but no, GM isn't competing with Ferrari. Porsche, yes. Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg and the like, no.

Here's an interesting article from Bloomberg right after the ZR1 reveal - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...9-corvette-zr1

Note the title... GM Takes On Ferrari and Lamborghini With the 2019 Corvette ZR1

Now, move forward to the C8, which we all expect to be superior to the corresponding C7 lineup, and we find this article

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/12/gm-h...ar-market.html

Again, note the title... GM teases 2020 Chevy Corvette C8 in bid for Ferrari, McLaren luxury sports car market

[ltomn]

Jag, the way it's implied above makes it appear as though GM failed in the effort to take on Lamborhini and Ferrari with the ZR1. They must have as they are still bidding to take some of the Ferrari and McLaren luxury sports car market (per the second CNBC story). I think the real intention is to suggest that they have penetrated the markets with the ZR1 and intend to further chip away at it with the ZORA.