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CORVETTE TODAY #164 - My Trip To The Amelia Island Concours

In March of this year, your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, attended the unveiling of the three 1960 Cunningham Corvettes from Le Mans at the Amelia Island Concours. Steve recaps his weekend at Amelia Island and all the events that took place during the show! https://youtu.be/qbRpTBgmINk; https://adori.page.link/?link=https:..._iipp=1&_icp=1
The Cunningham Corvettes were the hit of the entire weekend and you'll hear about the whole story on this episode of CORVETTE TODAY.
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CORVETTE TODAY #163 - Corvette News & Headlines, Late May 2023

Recognizing Memorial Day, there is still a lot of news coming out in the world of Corvette! Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger is back on the show with your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, to detail all the important things happening with America's Sports Car.
https://youtu.be/rxfxMDsr05Y; https://adori.page.link/?link=https:..._iipp=1&_icp=1
Here are a few of the topics covered by Steve and Keith on this week's show:
1. Engineers are spotted in what we think is the C8 ZR1 prototype
2. We have two new E-Ray videos available
3. New Z06 allocations went out in the middle of this month (May 2023)
4. The National Corvette Museum names a new Marketing Director
5. Australia recalls the 2022 C8 Corvette for being too loud
6. Did GM's Instagram page give us a C9 Corvette preview?
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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2023 Corvette Brochure: https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...D7Q0fp8nIEE57Y
E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
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Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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  • A lot riding on C8

    Here’s an interesting perspective about how important the C8 is, and could be to GM.

    Originally posted by AutomotiveNews
    There's a lot riding on the new Corvette



    RICHARD TRUETT
    Richard Truett covers technology, engineering and Jaguar Land Rover for Automotive News.


    GM: A camouflaged preproduction midengine Corvette.

    Though it might not ever make a dime for General Motors, the midengine Chevrolet Corvette is far more important than you might think.

    Despite the best product lineup in its history and solid profitability, GM has seen its U.S. market share slowly decline over the last dozen years. And it has gone down slightly this year compared with last year's results. With all the billions GM has poured into new vehicles, it should be going the other way. GM U.S. MARKET SHARE
    • 2018: 16.7%
    • 2017: 17.1%
    • 2016: 17%
    • 2015: 17.3%
    • 2014: 17.4%
    • 2013: 17.5%
    • 2012: 17.5%
    • 2011: 19.2%
    • 2010: 18.8%
    • 2009: 19.7% or 19.6%, depending on 10-K
    • 2008: 22.1%
    • 2007: 23.5%

    Source: GM financial filings

    This is a lot to put on the fenders of one car, but if the new Corvette, with its midengine layout, delivers the goods and elevates Chevrolet's long-running sports car to world class in every standard of measurement, it just might get people thinking differently about Chevrolet and GM.

    On rare occasions, one vehicle can do that for a company. A recent example: The sixth-generation Hyundai Sonata, with its edgy styling, upper-class interior and ample equipment, proved to be a monster hit for the Korean automaker. That car won its share of buyers from Toyota and Honda. Another example: The Volvo XC90 propelled the Swedish automaker into direct competition with Mercedes-Benz, Audi and others and signaled that Volvo had broken from its predictable past.

    That's what GM desperately needs today, and the new Corvette is the company's best shot.

    Think about this: When was the last time any GM division offered a car that consumers truly dreamed about, lusted after, saved up for and just had to own? It's been a long, long time -- probably dating to GM's muscle car days of Pontiac GTOs, Oldsmobile 442s and Buick Grand Nationals --since GM really knocked one into the center field seats.

    The eighth-generation Corvette, to be revealed July 18, could change that. It could be the car that proves once and for all that GM can still check all the important boxes with one vehicle: sophisticated engineering and styling; all aspects of performance; comfort; equipment; a world-class, no-excuses interior; and, most of all, value.

    Unlike previous Corvettes, the next Vette should have the technical pedigree to appeal to buyers of high-priced, mostly European sports and exotic cars. For just the third time in GM's history, a regular production car will have the engine behind the driver. (The Corvair and Fiero were the other two.) A sports car, the next Corvette likely won't sell in high volumes -- few sports cars do these days. And the number of parts shared with other vehicles is likely very few. So, it might not make much profit for GM.

    But this, in my view, should be the Corvette's mission: It should set the pace for the company. There has to be a little bit of Corvette in everything GM does. You might feel it in the way a Cadillac turns. You might hear it in the way a GMC Denali engine sounds with the throttle opened wide. You might see some of the safety technology in a Buick. Corvette, as others have said, should show the best of everything GM can do.

    This Corvette, then, will likely draw in customers for test drives who would never have considered any previous model or anything except possibly a truck from GM. There's no telling what could happen if they like what they see.
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  • #2
    I thought its a ridiculous article.....like wjats the c7 been?

    But its a slightly different twist on the coverage of the c8 so we smile amd enjoy..

    thanks John for posting up

    hopefully this along with mainstreamproducts like the new tracker and trailblazer which i saw today amd I think priced competitively in theor seg,ents they are winners..

    the blazers nice but priced crazy in RS trim...

    the trailblazer and tracker i though are winners ...

    i was impressed and im not a cuv guy at all.

    now gm needs a full ev tracker and trailblazer with impressive performance...amd 230 mile ramge for the win...

    the cadillac ct5 not so great...but i did see a neighbor bought a black cadillac xt4 and it was pretty slick ...

    these are the vehicles that will carry gm s water.

    this friday is the ny auto show. I have free tickets from chevy so what the the hell ill stop in.

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    • #3
      The concept of the “Halo car” is well known. Though not as marked as it used to be. I will go out on a limb here. IF the C8 is a grand slam home run, getting buyers of the european exotic sports cars to switch to Corvette, it could work. Now, this presupposes that GM can actually pull it off.
      It would be a long shot, requiring a stupendous effort to deliver exotic-beating performance, high levels of quality fit and finish, all at the value Corvette is famous for. I don’t know how they will match interior quality materials with the europeans costing twice as much. It will mean paint of a quality standard never achieved by Corvette. And no embarrassing mechanical or electronic blunders, as were seen in past models.
      All in all, a near impossibility for GM. But, if the team, and leadership insist on a true world class product, I think it could be done.
      If Mary Barra, Tadge Jueckter, and all the Corvette team are listening, I hope you ALL brought your “A” game. No excuses this time of bankruptcy midway through development. No underfunding development this time. All the stars aligned for this one. No excuses.
      Show them that America can beat the european icons at their own game. I’m pulling for you to build the last car I will ever own.
      Last edited by Shrike6; 04-16-2019, 05:18 PM.

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      • #4
        I believe a corvette crosstrek much along the concept as the lamborghini urus priced at 60 grand...now that would be a halo vehicle that would garner the publics attemtion.

        its a cuv world and gm needs to evolve its concept of what a halo vehicle is.

        jmo
        Last edited by JB; 04-16-2019, 06:47 PM.

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        • #5
          A lot riding on C8


          I don't know. "A lot". Like % of GM revenue generated?
          Last edited by Boomer; 04-16-2019, 06:57 PM. Reason: clariy

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          • #6
            Under Mary Barra, GM is making money, adjusting operations and product, implementing cost cutting measures, and re-creating itself so it will be viable and vital not just a few years from now, but decades from now.

            The C7 made a lot of money for GM; the C8 will need to do the same (not concerned of the latter at all).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by John View Post
              The C7 made a lot of money for GM; the C8 will need to do the same (not concerned of the latter at all).
              Yes. Plan to pay MSRP for my C8. Hope I'm not influencing that price at all.

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              • #8
                A question I have seen asked nowhere........is there a market for a C8 in China?
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                • #9
                  I think it highly unlikely that the C8, no matter how good it is, will motivate many non-Corvette buyers to enter a Chevy dealer for their next SUV, CUV or "EUV." There's just very little in common, to the average person, between a Corvette and any other GM car (except maybe the Camaro). They don't look similar, they don't appear to share any significant technology, and the Corvette doesn't really seem like an aspirational upgrade to someone who's shopping SUVs because they need room for the kids, or think SUVs are bigger, therefore safer.

                  I don't think Porsches create a lot of sales for VWs or Audis, or Ferrari creates a lot of Fiat sales (maybe in Italy, not here). Has anyone ever bought an Avalon because of the Toyota LFA? Or an Accord or ILX because of the Acura NSX?

                  Porsche sports cars certainly generate sales for the Cayenne, and Lambo sports cars generate sales for their Urus, and if there was a high performance Corvette SUV the halo effect might work there, but it would have to be a real Corvette SUV, not a badge engineered Blazer or Equinox. But even then I'm not sure if it would sell in enough numbers to affect GM's bottom line very much, or have any spillover effect to other GM models. "I really wanted the Corvette SUV, but I couldn't afford it so I bought a Buick Encore" just isn't something I would expect to hear.

                  I don't think I've heard many (any!) people say "I want a Corvette, but can't afford it, so I bought a Cobalt because it looks just as cool." Or "... but need more space, so I bought a Blazer, because it performs almost as well." Some (but by no means all) Corvette owners may buy other GM products out of loyalty, but that doesn't mean Corvette wanna be owners will do the same.
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                  • #10
                    I once shopped a Chevrolet Trailblazer because it had a Corvette LS2 engine, but didn't buy it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob View Post
                      A question I have seen asked nowhere........is there a market for a C8 in China?
                      Hope so unless we tariff ourselves out.

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                      • #12
                        Marketing people want to create a favorable emotion when the consumer see the product. Their approach is that the customer buys an expression of identity. A lot of what we people do all day long is "presentation of self". "Association" is supposed to be a natural heuristic that all people have. Association can lift the image of GM an its products.

                        So , what sparkles and sugar plum will the C8 embed in the vocabulary of identity and aspiation?

                        Well. What happens were someone sees a Ferrari 488? Then acheive "association" of that kind of happening to a transfer to "GM".

                        They should call the thing he GM GT, The GM Zora. Be linear with the name. Hook it directly to the central name of he company. Everything else about what is intended to be accomplished is nonlinear. So they should use a linear strategy with the naming. Hook it direct: Association. And do good stuff to create psychological value the association process.

                        And with all the products, Caddy, Buick, Chevy the names should be "gmCaddy", "gmBuick", "gmChevy" etc. or something of the sort. Supported by solid stuff stuff to create psychological value. It easier to lift "GM" than to lift Chevy, Buick, Caddy etc individually.

                        Not jingles and gimmicks "Pontiac is Excitement' kind of thing.

                        In My Amateur Opinion.
                        Last edited by SheepDog; 04-17-2019, 08:29 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by John View Post
                          The C7 made a lot of money for GM; the C8 will need to do the same (not concerned of the latter at all).
                          My feelings as well.

                          Unless there are major issues with the production C8s (which I very much doubt will occur), it seems very likely to me that the C8 will be both immensely popular as well as very profitable for GM.
                          My C8:
                          '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                          Current Vettes:
                          '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                          '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                          '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
                            I don't think I've heard many (any!) people say "I want a Corvette, but can't afford it, so I bought a Cobalt because it looks just as cool."
                            I think there may be quite a few Camaro owners who would have preferred a Corvette if their budget allowed...
                            My C8:
                            '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                            Current Vettes:
                            '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                            '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                            '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob View Post
                              A question I have seen asked nowhere........is there a market for a C8 in China?
                              There has also been rumor of a right-hand drive version of the C8 for export... It'll be interesting to see if that becomes a reality.
                              My C8:
                              '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                              Current Vettes:
                              '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                              '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                              '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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