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  • Z06 Response: Ferrari, Lambo, McLaren Owners And More

    BIG Fun article from CorvetteBlogger, cross-posted here with thanks.

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    Originally posted by CorvetteBlogger

    The 2023 Corvette Z06 Is Making Waves Among Ferrari and Porsche Fans

    By Alex Sommers : Oct 29, 2021





    Photo Credit: Chevrolet



    The primary objective lying ahead of the Corvette team when they started developing the first mid-engine Z06 in history six years ago was a monumental one, to say the least. They shot for the stars with their stated goal: to “put the automotive world on notice,” and, though it is a bit early to throw them a parade, the 670 naturally-aspirated HP (it still gives me goosebumps every time I get to type that!) fruits of their labor seem to have thoroughly hit the mark, judging by reactions across the automotive industry and in the high-end vehicle forums in the two days since they were finally made public!

    Hot on the heels of the Z06 unveiling at the Peterson Automotive Museum in Los Angeles, McLaren’s CEO threw up his hands and left the company that he had turned into a legitimate force in the streetcar space during his eight years at the helm. Is that just a coincidence? Decide for yourself, but we don’t believe in such things!
    The Ferrari and Porsche customers that Tadge, Harlan, and the gang have been watching like hungry wolves, licking their lips with conquest on their minds, have also taken notice of the Z’s inherent greatness! The Z06 reveal was a tsunami, and the waves and aftershocks are still evident in the respective forums of these blue-chip, European sports, and supercar manufacturers.
    Over on FerrariChat, the C8Z thread had already amassed 19-pages before anything was even made official, and since the camo came off, it has remained at the top of their “other cars” section. The comments, from #441 and on, that have come in the past 48 hours should be enough to make Mark Reuss and GM’s “C-suite” pound their collective chest with pride. 95spiderman kicked things off after BJK “live posted” the HP figure by type-screaming “omg omg omg!… sounds like tearing silk fabric,” then there was a “holy cow” followed by multiple proclamations of deep infatuation, including this gem from poster VAF84:



    And ’95 Spidey hopped back in by saying “good night” to his Cayman GT4 RS order while saying the Z sounds even “better than a 458.” Jo Sta7 was completely thrilled and couldn’t wait… “what a machine,” while Edward 96GTS echoed what so many Corvette people have been saying for the past two years: “finally some nice looking wheels.” MikeR397 was already pulling a CorvetteBlogger and planning out his build:



    TheMayor jumped in with a lengthy post that concluded with the money line; “I have to say… well done Chevy. If Ferrari made this everyone on Fchat would be over the moon.” And Spidey expanded upon his sudden lack of interest in the upcoming Rensport Cayman:



    While YTheMayor added some excellent perspective; “The Americans have raised the bar. And they are going to make them at prices in mass production that no one else would even try” and, “Its completely unfortunate but this is the car Ferrari has forgotten how to make,” in response to boxerman’s claim that “we [finally] have the 100k Ferrari beater.”
    Boxer then took it a step further by seriously shading the current state of the Prancing Horse:



    It is a good thing that most ‘Vette people were proactive about getting on dealer waiting lists, because a good portion of the comments were along the lines of italiafan’s “Amazing! Now I need to get on a waiting list somehow.”
    There were also a few concerns about the overall weight of the Z, but most of those were brushed off with some great-to-see enthusiasm!
    Meanwhile, on the Porsche-centric Rennlist, a funny thing was happening. A fair amount of the orthodontists (just a joke!)/posters on the site were treating the Z06 with the same condescension that our commenters reserve for hi-po Mustangs (even when they have 760 HP, a DCT, and carbon fiber wheels). Luckily, enough people over there could see the light, including Porsche “addict,” surquhar who kicked off the admiration by saying, “I think the new Z06 is freaking awesome and I would buy one in a second if I were able to get one at MSRP,” followed by slc4s who added:



    And, so, it continued:



    Then, because the car is too impressive to tear down, the strawman arguments started popping up left and right:




    Until, finally, the pro-Vette crowd prevailed:



    … For a while…
    Last we checked, the battle was still raging, keeping the C8Z talk at the top of another forum, for better or worse.
    What does all of this mean?
    The C8 Z06 garnering so much attention, even amongst owners of two of the most prestigious automotive brands in the world (we haven’t even expanded our search to Mercedes, BMW, etc. forums, but the makers and prospective owners of the buck-toothed, 473-horse, twin-turbo, $73-100,000 G82 M4 have to be pining for an updated E46 or E92 M3, at the very least), is outstanding news for GM, Chevrolet, and the Corvette brand. On the flip side of that coin is the preexisting hoard of loyal Corvette customers, who suddenly find themselves with a mountain of new, well-to-do competition for the already limited C8 allocations. If you find yourself lamenting all of the newbies coming into the Crossed Flags fold, take solace in the fact that you are a Veteran of the ‘Vette, share your knowledge and passion with the new recruits, and enjoy the magnitude of respect that our favorite car is receiving; it is finally a vehicle that is free of any corner-cutting or “for the price” stipulations. A world-class vehicle, designed, engineered, and built right here, in the land of the free, that can stand up face to face with any car at any price. Friends, Chevrolet might have just minted the greatest car in the world, and hardworking, everyday people have just as much of a chance at ownership as the Buffetts and Zuckerbergs of the world, and THAT is something worth celebrating!
    https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2021...erm=2021-10-29




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  • #2
    An exotic that can be daily driven. For the guys with beautiful Ferraris and lambos or McLarens they can keep their mileage.low on their exotics because that's what they do for some reason meanwhile the Corvette can be driven until the wheels.fall.off.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JB View Post
      An exotic that can be daily driven. For the guys with beautiful Ferraris and lambos or McLarens they can keep their mileage.low on their exotics because that's what they do for some reason meanwhile the Corvette can be driven until the wheels.fall.off.
      I really hope this is true for the z06, but high revving flat plane crank engines aren’t always known for their long term reliability. I’d be interested in how many exotic owners actually get rid of one to own a Z06 vs just add a Z06 to their collection.

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      • #4
        What a “well written” fun to read article……..glad I’m on a list……for ALL of the coming Corvettes.
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        • #5
          It's a Chevy and this new awesome engine is going through all rigorous durability testing for reliability as any other engines, paraphrased by the lead engine engineer at the reveal !
          I have faith that this is true as I'm on the list for Z06
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TtiME View Post

            I really hope this is true for the z06, but high revving flat plane crank engines aren’t always known for their long term reliability. I’d be interested in how many exotic owners actually get rid of one to own a Z06 vs just add a Z06 to their collection.
            Let us pnot get into the analogy that due to some others of others OEM’s having flat plane crank issues that GM’s superior engineers will. The standards GM uses to test its motors, known in the industry as superior, both testing for max RPM for an entire day, a.so computerized generation up and down RPM hundreds of cycles (if not mega thousands), also this time additionally testing them on the C8.R’s, leave me without one ounce of concern.

            If one has that one ounce, deliberately hold off until year or two to ease it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TtiME View Post

              I really hope this is true for the z06, but high revving flat plane crank engines aren’t always known for their long term reliability. I’d be interested in how many exotic owners actually get rid of one to own a Z06 vs just add a Z06 to their collection.
              And to not replace for ferrari and lamborghini owners would be my guess while their exotics rest comfortably in their garages. Taken out on rare occassions. The italians are still finely crafted art work that will always garner great respect.

              just my guess
              Last edited by JB; 10-30-2021, 09:03 PM.

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              • #8
                The car enthusiast mind is already not the same, And the Z has not hit the streets, yet.

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                • #9
                  If the undisclosed performance numbers are right and the reviews and comparison are good, then a lot of non Corvette people will take.



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                  • #10
                    There is absolutely no question that the C8 Z06 is a 'home run' and will continue to get the attention of owners of Euro exotics. This happened even with the C7 ZR1 but to a lesser extent than now with the C8. I know a number of guys that own Ferrari's, Lambo's and Mac's that have bought C8's and some that are even on the list for the Z06. I don't know a single one, however, who has or intends to sell the Euro that's in the garage.... A couple of 'em have even already flipped their Corvette.

                    Their reason.... great value, outstanding performer, but not a substitute. Maybe some of that will change with the new Z06, but in my opinion, Porsche is the only one likely to suffer a few sales losses, but the rest won't even notice in the long run.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TtiME View Post

                      I really hope this is true for the z06, but high revving flat plane crank engines aren’t always known for their long term reliability. I’d be interested in how many exotic owners actually get rid of one to own a Z06 vs just add a Z06 to their collection.
                      I sold my Ferrari 360 in February of 20’ knowing I most likely would not be driving it much after my c8 arrived...and I had my 360 for 15 years...don’t miss it and love my SOT c8... and I’m on the z list with my dealer...
                      3lt SOT...cf racing stripe,front lift.mag ride, z51,cf mirrors & spoiler,bright trident wheels,yellow calipers, yellow stitching black leather ,yellow belts,

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                      • #12
                        Been in the European car forums for decades as I have owned many of these European cars. What’s most interesting when I told my Porsche, Ferrari & McLaren friends I was buying a C7 Z06 they made comments ​​​​​​ but knew i was getting a manual so they semi-understood. When I told them I was buying a C8 Z51, I noticed a lot less negative comments from the group. Fast forward to Now & they are saying Wow when you getting your new Z06? and they are asking if they can have a ride in it when it arrives.

                        Let me tell you It has shifted, I have never heard this from these guys, I mean never. The heart of any car is the motor. GM has produce the most powerful NA FPC motor that sounds incredible with a DCT in a mid engine car that is off the charts. While all the other European manufacturers are moving to turbos and forced induction. The corvette team needs to be proud, they hit the ball out of the park.
                        Last edited by Fasttoys; 10-31-2021, 12:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          IMO, there is basically a lot of respect for what GM is doing from many exotic owners. Some, (maybe a lot) of the demand for the Z06 is from these exotic owners that will likely add one to the stable rather than replace a current car. I think it misplaced to think exotic owners will consider replacing to the Z06 because it is better or more reliable. It will be more that it scatches a particular itch, like a spine tingling N/A FPC V8 in a modern platform drivers car, something Ferrari, McLaren, and Porsche no longer do.

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                          • #14
                            I know the amount of attention and buzz my Z51 gets, people regularly stop me and ask about it, gawk, etc. and I of course give every one of them I can a tour and show them the car. The amount of people that gush over how amazing this car looks, is, etc. is astounding. Even at the few events I've been too with some serious "super cars" in attendance, I've received nothing but glowing praise. Even from my NSX having neighbor.
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                            Well worth the wait, the car is amazing!

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                            • #15
                              Good for you Mr. C8 Ambassador! Spreading the great word.
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