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When Is The ME’s Reveal?

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  • When Is The ME’s Reveal?

    We do not know, but let’s evaluate probables.

    1. The May 26th Indy 500 Race features the 2019 Grand Sport as its Pace Car and it also has 33 identical, additional, 2019 Grand Sport “Festival Cars” specifically made for that event. GM has already spend a lot of money creating these cars. This is the first time since 2007 that Corvettes are both the Pace Cars and the 33 Festival Cars.

    https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...dianapolis-500

    Analysis: The C8’s reveal would not be before May 26th because if the 2020 ME Corvette were revealed before then, yet the ME were not the Pace Car, can you imagine the snide shots, “what’s wrong with the 2020 ME Corvette, that you don’t take a chance with it not performing 100% as the Pace Car on national TV?”

    2. As GM Authority noted many months ago, and several others have separately chimed in since then, the C8’s reveal would be a “stand alone summer event.”

    Analysis: Summer does not officially start prior to June 21st. At its other end, summer ends on September 23th. However, with the rumored SOP (start of customer production) being in December, a reveal in September would not give GM time to reveal it, get out its final ordering specs/Order Guide, have customers to make final option/color decisions, have the orders submitted though the allocation/consensus process, suppliers create/ship the exact parts needed, and all this work seamlessly together to have a December production. Most importantly a major factor in this conclusion is based on GM has always having several months between the first customer orders going in an the start of next generation Corvette’s production — and often way longer than that. Using this important “order submittal to start of production” timeline metric, revealing the ME in September would be, IMO, too late.

    3. There are two very large Corvette events in August that I personally believe it would be very important to have the C8 displayed. They are Corvettes At Carlisle starting August 22nd, and the end of August’s National Corvette Caravan, which becomes the National Corvette Museum’s 25th Anniversary Celebration (the latter starting on August 28th).

    Analysis: Personally, I do not think the ME would be revealed at either event for several reasons, most importantly because neither is a stand alone GM event. Both are massive gatherings with a ton of existing, tightly scheduled activities. Yet bringing two, already-revealed C8’s to each one, would expose the cars to the tens of thousands of Corvette faithful who attend each of these two events. GM wants to bask in the worldwide attention it gets starting the actual ME’s reveal, so I believe it would want the ME’s reveal to be at least a couple of weeks before each event.

    Of course all the above is just a “collection of speculation.” But if accurate, it would lead to the reveal being sometime between June 21st and August 8th.

    Even if that timetable would turn out to be accurate, still leaves us with a 45 day window for the 2020 ME’s reveal. As well as it leaving us without, at least as of yet, a place for the reveal.

    Might as some are now openly asking, GM announce the date and the location of the C8’s reveal at one of the two “Presentations By Corvette Team” at the NCM BASH toward the end of this month, e.g., the first one Friday, April 26th at 9:00 AM, the second on Saturday, April 27th , at 8:45 AM?


















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  • #2
    I have a feeling that even GM doesn't know yet, as this car is still in R&D. I don't think the car is done yet to be reveled. For example, the new ZF Tranny is a new news. Still a moving target.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by John View Post
      3. There are two very large Corvette events in August that I personally believe it would be very important to have the C8 displayed. They are Corvettes At Carlisle starting August 22nd, and the end of August’s National Corvette Caravan, which becomes the National Corvette Museum’s 25th Anniversary Celebration (the latter starting on August 28th).

      Analysis: Personally, I do not think the ME would be revealed at either event for several reasons, most importantly because neither is a stand alone GM event. Both are massive gatherings with a ton of existing, tightly scheduled activities. Yet bringing two, already-revealed C8’s to each one, would expose the cars to the tens of thousands of Corvette faithful who attend each of these two events. GM wants to bask in the worldwide attention it gets starting the actual ME’s reveal, so I believe it would want the ME’s reveal to be at least a couple of weeks before each event.

      Might as some are now openly asking, GM announce the date and the location of the C8’s reveal at one of the two “Presentations By Corvette Team” at the NCM BASH toward the end of this month, e.g., the first one Friday, April 26th at 9:00 AM, the second on Saturday, April 27th , at 8:45 AM?


      The Caravan isn't a stand alone GM event? I suppose technically it's a museum event, but it is strictly Corvette related, and no one bu GM makes Corvettes, so....

      And the Bash isn't during the summer.....
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      • #4
        The BASH could be, according to some, when the date for and location were announced; not even they were saying that at the BASH would be the reveal.

        Personally, I am not thinking that anything will happen at the BASH — not even an announcement of when the reveal would be announced.
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        • #5
          If its carlisle ill go. That would be fun. I went maybe a decade ago and thats an insane event. Probably or more likely the kentucky event which could be fun as well. I dont expect the Indy event to be the reveal date with the grand sport c7 indy pace car edition recently announced,

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          • #6
            Btw chevrolet sent me yesterday two free passes to the NY show in a couple of weeks.

            definitely GM is pimping left over c7s as inventory maintains its previous bulk even though the c7 is a great sports car.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Z_Rocks View Post
              I have a feeling that even GM doesn't know yet, as this car is still in R&D. I don't think the car is done yet to be reveled. For example, the new ZF Tranny is a new news. Still a moving target.
              It's not "news" in any normal use of the word. It's a speculative article written by the same guy who previously claimed that the Mustang and C8 were going to share the same trans. Clickbait journalism.
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              • #8
                Maybe John can help me here.

                Does the plant require some type of shutdown prior to the start of the C8 build?

                If so, how long?

                Presumably the Union requires advance notice of a shutdown. How much notice? And that would have to be publicly known, right?

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                • #9
                  Reveal at Indy! What a Corvette event with the GSs and all. Would not detract from the GSs or the C7 but rather be a great representation of the brand. The timing is fine as far as a "summer" reveal. I don't think folks use the calendar date of June 21 when they talk about summer in that respect.

                  The Indianapolis 500 is the world's largest single-day spectator sporting event. With 350,000 in attendance, 5.5 million US viewers plus coverage reaching 375 million households in 200 countries worldwide, what better format for the reveal of the C8!!

                  Any negative comments regarding the C8 not being used as the Official Pace Car would be totally misplaced. The event is the "reveal" of the C8 not its deployment. Official Pace Cars are cars currently available for purchase and already deployed on the public highway. The C8 could be the 2020 pace car.

                  So the Indy reveal it is! They could have a "massive" show of all those GSs tooling around the Indy track in formation with the C8 doing "pace car" for that cruise. What a made for TV event! It would look like Corvette is taking over the world! The publicity would be unsurpassed. It would be the talk of the race. My calendar is marked!


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                  • #10
                    Sounds good...hope you are correct.

                    that would be great if true.

                    thanks for your insight

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bikerjulio View Post
                      Maybe John can help me here.

                      Does the plant require some type of shutdown prior to the start of the C8 build?

                      If so, how long?

                      Presumably the Union requires advance notice of a shutdown. How much notice? And that would have to be publicly known, right?
                      What I believe will happen, is at the reveal or shortly afterwards, we would learn that 2019 production stops on “x” date,” that the plant would be shut for “y” weeks, that the very slow ramp of of the first ME’s starts on “Z’” date.

                      Shutdowns between one generation and the next of the Corvette have averaged a couple of months. I have heard estimates that this one could be as short as six weeks, maybe as long as ten. We do not know.

                      Also do not know what provisions there are in regards to UAW notices/provisions. However, with every employee needing significant re-training, especially as the physical equipment and processes on the assembly line floor would be changed significantly (we believe), BGA would again use the same employee re-training program they used during the fall, 2017, thirteen week shutdown — a process that had the employees being trained in an empty part of the plant (or maybe in an adjoining building), which will keep them busy during part of the assembly line shutdown.

                      The training was a combination of virtual training on computers in the morning (first watching and then picking up the tool, moving it to the correct part location, moving that part to the next location, the same for the next tool and movement step, etc, then that afternoon doing this on actual assembly bucks — however that afternoon with the same tools and parts they will actually use to perform their tasks on the line once customer car assembly re-starts; then the next morning more computer virtual training, their re-learning what they did the day before; that afternoon more real training with real tools and with the actual parts, then testing. Every employee would again need to be re-tested/certified to level four mastery for two jobs in their area (their own and a back-up job), with every area supervisor needing to obtain level foI\ur mastery for every job in the area they supervise.

                      I am thinking we again will learn none of this process’ timing before the reveal itself.
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                      • #12
                        What a great color combination! I like Boomer’s thought process. Makes a lot of sense...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Boomer View Post
                          Any negative comments regarding the C8 not being used as the Official Pace Car would be totally misplaced. The event is the "reveal" of the C8 not its deployment. Official Pace Cars are cars currently available for purchase and already deployed on the public highway. The C8 could be the 2020 pace car.
                          For that matter, GM could do a last minute replacement of the C7 GS with the C8 as pace car. I'm pretty sure Indy wouldn't mind a bit.
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