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C8 Roof Changes Coming & Six ME Roof Options

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  • C8 Roof Changes Coming & Six ME Roof Options


    Based on a few tiny clues, and maybe completely inaccurately, I believe some of the C8’s roof visual treatments will be different from the C7’s. Am I fishing? Or have we have a clue to this during the last year of the C7?

    A) First, however addressing “might we have six different C8 couple roof options?”

    We will be having six different roof options — at least that is what we think, though again all based on whether both the leaked specs ring true for you, and whether you believe the below quote from “NBVette4U.

    Originally posted by NBVette4u
    6 removable roof panel options
    For the assessment of six ME roof options, one has to consider how to count the information in the specs:

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    From my way of counting, we will have three coupe roof options, e.g., body colored (though made of carbon fiber as were the C7’s — for lower center of gravity), visible carbon fiber, and lastly, a translucent polycarbonate option. Was NBVette4U counting a dual roof package as two different choices (e.g. , 3x2 =6), as each part of each dual roof package is separately and individually order-able and thus will there only really be three different C8 coupe visual options?

    Relatedly, might we later learn of three more parallel options for the HT Spyder?

    B) Different C8 Roof Visual Presentations Possible?

    Intro: Already we are seeing more than a couple of automedia, now that the alleged specs are out, their not being happy with so many of the C8’s options, even its probable model codes, being an exact repeat of the C7’s in terms of both nomenclature and even its option codes. They are openly asking, should not the radical change to a mid engine bring out more changes? Question asked now, but to be only later answered.

    Referring to the C7’s roof and how that might be changing to the C8, I see two probable visual differences — one of which was hinted at in the 2019 ZR1.

    Predictions (which sure could be wrong):

    1) The body colored roof spears on the visible carbon fiber roof are IMO going away in the C8. They were so distinctive, that it is time for a change. Also some questioned their front end visual treatment vis-a-vis the black “A” pillars, others the squared off front of the body color as it moved forward and then touched the visible carbon fiber roof. Yet, others really like that intersection.

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    Even with a Torch Red, this picture I took at the 1.13.13 reveal, that transition was, dare I say it, less than elegant.

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    2) The second change I am thinking is coming is that the halo bar will be more “color integrated for the visible carbon fiber roof option. When I was at 1.13.13 one thing that struck me, and I did not hesitate to later raise this issue (although very, very tactfully) with two top members of the Corvette team, specifically I thought especially on a light coloredC7 having a visible carbon fiber roof, with many tinting their C7’s windows, that you had too many light to dark to light to dark changes happening on the roof. Starting with even the Torch Red picture I took at the C7’s reveal, then more showing why IMO the halo bar should be visually identical to the roof for at least the visible CF roof option.

    I suggested to those two top Corvette team members, that many who were buying the visible carbon fiber roof would gladly pay an additional $395 for the halo bar to be that identical visible CF. I even sent this sketch to one of the top members of the Corvette team, showing him how this would, again in my opinion, look better, and at $395 or even $495, would be a good money maker for GM.

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    Was GM listening to that concept when on the 2019 ZR1 they added a black vinyl trim piece, option code DW9 called a “black out roof decal” — that is standard on the Sebring Orange Design Package ? Was that 2019 introduction a foretelling of the halo’s visual treatment on the C8 being the same as the C8’s roof? Only at the C8’s reveal will we know...

    Separately, a very funny story about the ZR1 coupe’s reveal in Dubai, that whereas that SO Design Package lists that black out vinyl halo bar covering, it was missing at the coupe’s reveal. How come? It was learned that the detailing staff in Dubai, when removing the white protecting traveling vinyl pieces, thought that the black vinyl one on the halo bar was just a different covered piece of vinyl protection, took it off and threw it away. GM replaced it on the ZR1 coupe shown at the LA ZR1 reveal three weeks later.

    I also just learned from Mike Furman that an early customer Sebring Orange Design Package ZR1 came without the black out roof decal — which was just fine with that owner as he did not like it anyway.

    Seriously, placing a rectangular piece of black vinyl on the halo bar on a $120,000+ car is not going to help Corvette compete with our upcoming major C8 visual competitors, the Euro exotics. A vinyl covering on the halo bar, especially as it was in a different color than everything else near that location, needs to be improved on the C8.

    I am optimistic the C8’s roof treatments will be better than that isolated singular black vinyl halo piece, but how is GM is specifically planning to do that, is not yet known.




























    Last edited by John; 03-28-2019, 04:08 PM.
    GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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    Good analysis and informative as usual. I'll probably go with the visible carbon fiber or the translucent polycarbonate roof "Optiosn".

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    • #3
      Painted will be my first choice , I'll have to wait and see if they have something else that catches my eyes ...
      A thought if I might ...

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      • #4
        Spot on Ssscooter66, that we are all going to re-examine, even if we now think we know what we want, our preliminary thinking as to many of our final option choices — once we have seen the ME at its reveal and afterwards.
        Last edited by John; 03-28-2019, 08:04 PM.
        GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by John View Post
          Spot on Ssscooter66, that we are all going to re-examine, even if we now think we know what we want, our preliminary thinking as to many of our final option choices — once we have seen the ME at its reveal and afterwards.
          So true. Right now I plan to choose the Blade Silver like my C7. And like my C7 I think a "dark" roof with Blade Silver looks really sharp. I may change my mind but it seems unlikely at this point.

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          • #6
            We are today leaning toward this, e.g., perhaps Blade Silver Metallic with the Midnight Silver Racing Stripes Package, the Morello Red interior, and the dark Edge Red calipers. At least that is today’s thinking, e.g., including body colored trim and roof.


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            Last edited by John; 03-29-2019, 09:42 AM.
            GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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            • #7
              I would pay extra for the option to have a fixed roof coupe - i.e. the roof bolted in place like the C6Z/ZR, for added rigidity.

              And my ME is definitely going to be silver.

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              • #8
                A little birdie has suggested that silver is being seriously considered at a C8 reveal color.
                GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by John View Post
                  A little birdie has suggested that silver is being seriously considered at a C8 reveal color.
                  THAT. . . would be sweet. And it makes a lot of sense as that color really shows lines/curves. It would make for a great reveal color.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by John View Post
                    A little birdie has suggested that silver is being seriously considered at a C8 reveal color.
                    Must be spring with all those "little birdies" you hear from. Gotta put out some seed to keep em coming around. They seem informed.

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                    • #11
                      Funny digression. We live on 13 acres, and thanks to my wife we are a certified National Wildlife Habitat. Our weekly bird food budget is $52. But as I always say, that is very inexpensive compared to my Corvette hobby.
                      GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                      • #12
                        Seriously, with most of the Corvette prototypes being silver, and with some of them being transported around the country for many C7.R races and to other special Corvette events, a betting person would put money on silver being a reveal color (though not saying there is not some other factors putting money on silver to win, place or show at the reveal beyond silver being a Corvette ME prototypes historical favorite).

                        One of those factors is that silver shows the lines of a car extremely well, and why we often see silver at sport car’s reveal.
                        GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                          2020 Blade Silver 2LT Z51 front lift ,mag ride ,black trident wheels and carbon fiber dash

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                          • #14
                            I hope that the A pillars are body color this time. On the C7 convertible the black A pillars are nice because everything above the belt line is blacked out (black conv top obviously). When the top is down you don't notice the A pillars. With the C8 I think it would look better with a solid color top. If you wanted the exposed CF or carbonate top maybe an option to have the A pillars be black could be possible. Like the silver car above in MikeC8's post ... that looks very nice on the C7. I'd be tempted to paint my C8's A pillars body color ...

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                            • #15
                              I like the basic transparent roof, same I had in my C7. Works and looks great! :-)

                              bobbytinvab , you can always cover the pillars with vinyl, as you want. Easy and cheap solution. If you don't like it, just remove it.

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