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    It is looking increasingly like the 2020 Corvette ME will have the same rear camera mirror system that is currently in the Cadillac CT6. Here is a one minute video to give you a taste of how it would work.



    Here is some good information about the system itself, and later why it is thought the Corvette ME would come with this system (though perhaps as an option).

    Originally posted by wired
    Cadillac’s All-Seeing Rearview Mirror Pe

    The 2016 Cadillac CT6 rearview mirror displays a high-definition view from a camera mounted at the back of the car.

    When critics met the all-new Cadillac CT6 earlier this year, they lauded the sedan’s sharp design, luxurious interior, and impressive performance.

    They generally paid less attention to the rearview mirror. Understandably; the rectangle of glass and plastic usually lacks the appeal of horsepower figures, of autonomous capabilities, of night vision. But the CT6’s mirror merits a closer look.

    It is the first of its kind to trade the standard reflection for a high-definition, wide-angle display pulled from a camera sitting at the back of the car. No obstruction from your seat headrests or the rear windshield frame, no interference from tall rear passengers or the stack of boxes from your Ikea trip. Just a clear view of everything behind you.

    The humble rearview has never earned much love. Yes, at some point engineers made them dim to mitigate glare, then made that process automatic. Luxury car makers recently dropped the plastic rim, which for some reason took a whole century. And the things are certainly a lot bigger than their dashboard-mounted ancestors. Helpful progress, but hardly a reinvention of the sort that companies like Tesla regularly cough up, confounding the competition—things like thrilling electric power, enormous touchscreens, or over-the-air software updates.

    Until now. General Motors’ partnership with Michigan’s Gentex Corporation on this trick tech beat the rest of the industry, rethinking—and improving—one element of how the driver interacts with and sees the world around him. (Other manufacturers, including Nissan, have experimented with the idea, but not made it either a) affordable enough for production; or b) play nice with stodgy rear view mirror.



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    The 2016 Cadillac CT6

    I caught my first glimpse of the mirror while testing the CT6 a few weeks ago. The crisp 1280 x 240 display improves situational awareness and overall intel about what’s out back. It’s not a perfect replacement, as sometimes it can be hard to figure out details since the field of view is wider than a conventional mirror. To decipher if that guy 50 yards back is a squad car or a taxi may take some extra glances in the sideview mirrors.

    Or, flip the toggle at the bottom of the mirror to turn off the digital view, leaving a standard reflection in its place. It’s a move to stay within the rules that require a mirror physically reflect light, and to sidestep resistance from customers who just want the thing they’re used to.

    That conventional backup system is also helpful for those who use the mirror for more than safety: menacing glares at misbehaving kids, hair situation reviews, flirty eye contact at stoplights. Forgetting to turn off the digital view can produce the unnerving idea that you, your family, and your car’s interior have turned to vampires.

    The digital rearview, also to be available in Chevrolet’s Bolt EV, takes some getting used to. The view is wider, the angle lower. The nighttime view is somewhere between high-dynamic-range photography and night vision, like watching the road through an Instagram filter. You also don’t need adjust the thing to reflect what’s behind you: Better to angle it right at your face.

    And once you get used to that, you start to wonder why it needs to be mounted to the top of the windshield anyway. Is that truly where science and ergonomics would place a rear-camera, were it not for that century of habit? Why not plop it right in your line of sight, beyond the steering wheel? Cadillac?

    While we're at it, should it even be called a “mirror” anymore? For the time being, sure—for the same reason we still “dial” telephones and “roll up” car windows. Terminology has a way of sticking, even when the technology evolves.

    Some CT6 drivers will flip to the conventional mirror and forget there’s a camera out back. Others will groove on the bright video stream and stop worrying about their hair. Someday, the feds will update the rules to allow automakers to replace side mirrors with camera displays—and reap the aerodynamic benefits of cleaving off those bulky protrusions.

    This is how technology advances. An unpredictable mix of big steps, smaller steps, and baby steps, with some regulatory resistance and public resistance to stymie the earliest adopters.

    Cadillac’s new way of looking is a small upgrade, but it’s emblematic of how technology is reshaping human life in the car. The mirror is a marvel, the kind of feature competitors will hurry to match. It may take years, but someday ordinary mirrors will feel like those windows we actually did have to roll up and down, and those cars we had to drive ourselves.
    https://www.wired.com/2016/11/cadill...mirror-camera/

    Why do many think the Corvette ME will come with such a system?

    First, GM is increasingly working to improve vehicle safety, and as we know when we are changing lanes, our potentially turning into a car already next to us, that's something that would be nice to avoid. Second, visibility with the HT convertible's buttresses, compounded with the ME might not having those two little windows behind the A pillar that C7’s have, nor the very large wrap around rear windows of Corvette generations before that, alternative better visibility would be an important enhancement.

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    Last edited by John; 06-05-2019, 09:08 AM.
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  • #2
    Nice, clean technology !!! I like it ....
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    • #3
      Like the fact that you can have the best of both worlds too. Personally I love having a rear view camera... even though mine is only active when in reverse. The camera view is much better and low light technology for these cameras has really improved too.

      I’m a fan!

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      • #4
        I like this idea as well. In the convertible with the top down I believe the camera will just fold away with the top since no display is going to work in direct sunlight.
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        • #5
          My only worry is how well is the lens going to stay clean. A backup camera can get a pretty crappy view when wet and dirty, will this be any better.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Plasboy View Post
            My only worry is how well is the lens going to stay clean. A backup camera can get a pretty crappy view when wet and dirty, will this be any better.
            This is in a much better location than a regular backup camera, so I'm not thinking it's too much of a problem, and there's always the regular mirror available. We'd want to keep the lens nice and scratch-free though. I read up a few of the Cadillac articles but found nothing on the topic of keeping the lens clear and clean.
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            Shadow Grey Metallic on Black
            2LT, Z51 + MRC
            Spectra Grey Tridents
            Carbon flash mirrors and spoiler

            I'm a Rat and so is my car! (a reference to the Chinese astrological calendar).

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            • #7
              Another cool auto feature that we have on our '17 Honda Pilot is a camera mounted in the base of the passenger outside mirror. When you turn the right turn signal on, the 8" display screen on the center dash shows the camera view which is the entire right side of the car and the lane next to it. You can also trigger the camera by pushing a button on the end of the turn signal stalk. Love that feature......... dumb *** Honda did away with the feature on the '19 as they now just have "sensors" to warn you not to change lanes. Nothing like ACTUALLY SEEING what's there.

              I'd like to see either the Cadillac version, or something like the Honda camera implemented into ALL cars, especially the Vette.
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              • #8
                Don't know why it took me so long to notice, and I haven't seen anyone else notice it either, but the camera locations are different between the convertible and coupe. The convertible has it in a raised nub, whereas the coupe has it just below the roof. Compare:

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                Last edited by Bikerjulio; 07-29-2018, 02:34 PM.
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                2LT, Z51 + MRC
                Spectra Grey Tridents
                Carbon flash mirrors and spoiler

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                • #9
                  Good eyes. You get to skip your eye exam this year.

                  On the HT convertible, as that window will go straight down, so the camera will be mounted on the back edge of the halo bar, yet mounted on the inside of the coupe window. For those curious, its location on the coupe will be above what you see in your rear view mirror, so it will not interfere with your vision.
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                  • #10
                    I’m sure with time the rear view camera in the rear view mirror becomes more natural but for me I found cadillacs rear view camera during driving in the ct6was somewhat unnatural for me to use and I reverted the rear view mirror back to its more traditional mirror capabilities.

                    over time I’d imagine it would hopefully become more natural.

                    if it were an extra cost option I’d pass.

                    if it was standard I guess I’d try it from time to time.

                    jmo

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