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CORVETTE TODAY #179 - CORVETTE NEWS & HEADLINES, MID-SEPTEMBER 2023

Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, teams up with Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger once again to keep you up to date on what's happening in the world of Corvette. Here are a few of the topics Steve and Keith bring you next week. https://youtu.be/JkA5J18FtdE?si=_ClRF7p68zI0V4A4; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...TQRaY9ZElrdDOZ
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2. The C8 Z06 hits Japan
3. Corvette ranks highest in JD Power's Multi Media Study
4. Is the C8's "Great Wall of Buttons" really going away in 2025?
5. This year's Corvette Hall Of Fame inductees
6. A Batmobile based on a 1992 Corvette sells on Bring A Trailer
Count on CORVETTE TODAY to bring you the latest news in the world of Corvette every other week with your host, Steve Garrett and Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger.
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2024 & 2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2024 Order Guide Here: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...=22639&type=0#
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E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
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*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
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* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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  • C8 According to Road & Track

    Mid-Engine Corvette: Everything We Know

    The C8 is on its way. Here's what we know about it.

    BY BRIAN SILVESTRO AND CHRIS PERKINS
    MAR 11, 2019

    This story will be continually updated as new information is learned. The most recent update was published on March 11th.

    After decades of speculations, concepts, and renderings, a mid-engine version of everyone's favorite American sports car, the Chevrolet Corvette, is finally on its way. There's been tons of rumors, leaked info, and real, actual test mules spotted on the road. Here are all the spy shots, videos, and info we've seen so far on the mid-engine Corvette.

    We Might Not See It Until Summer 2019

    Originally, we'd heard that the mid-engine Corvette would debut at the 2019 Detroit Auto Show. Don Sherman, an automotive journalist who's been on the mid-engine 'Vette beat longer than anyone, reported in Hagerty last January that's when the C8 would debut.

    Obviously, that's not the case anymore. Sherman now reports that the C8 will probably debut this summer—possibly August at an event at the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, Kentucky—and will reach production in December.

    Hagerty speculates that Chevy has delayed because of issues with GM's new electrical architecture and some structural issues found in testing a version with a twin-turbo V-8. But before that, you might see a prototype.

    It Could Start Between $60,000 and $70,000

    Hagerty reports that the C8 will start in the $60,000 to $70,000 range, where it'll be equipped with a new version of the current Corvette's naturally aspirated LT1 6.2-liter V-8. This engine, likely dubbed LT2, should make around 500 horsepower—up from the LT1's 460 horsepower. It Could Get a

    Fancy New V-8


    A 500-hp V-8, good though that may be, is only where things should start. Hagerty thinks that Chevy is working on a twin-turbo overhead-cam V-8 for the C8, possibly with a flat plane crank.

    An All-Wheel Drive Hybrid (!) Is a Possibility

    In an August 2016 report, the Detroit News said the mid-engine Corvette is codenamed "Emperor," and that a hybrid version could be in the pipeline. Speaking to the Detroit News, Bob Lutz speculated that the mid-engine Corvette could have a small battery and electric motor to decrease fuel consumption and enable all-wheel-drive. Over at Hagerty, Sherman reports the same thing, adding that an electric motor driving the front wheels would replace the front trunk in base C8 models.

    It Might Be Dual-Clutch Only

    While GM has filed a patent for a clutch-by-wire system that replaces the traditional hydraulic master- and slave-cylinder mechanism with an electronic actuator, many signs point to the C8 being a dual-clutch only affair.

    Back in 2016, our colleagues at Car and Driver reported that the C8 would use aseven-speed dual-clutch gearbox sourced from Tremec. Of its seven speeds, the top three are overdrives, and Tremec says it can handle 9000 rpm input speed and 664 lb-ft of torque.

    Car and Driver argues that Chevy will only offer this Corvette with one gearbox to reduce cost and complexity, but a world without a manual-transmission 'Vette is hard to imagine. Still, a dual-clutch would be a big improvement over the current Corvette's eight-speed auto.

    It Will Have an Interesting Engine Cover

    Chevy's first mid-engine Corvette is a prime chance for Chevrolet to innovate. A recent patent application shows that the engine cover is a design that Chevrolet has spent a lot of time innovating. The design has been made to aid cooling, which might be why the rear of the car has been covered so much in testing.

    It Might Have a Targa Roof

    Looking at a batch of photos of the C8 Corvette testing on the Nürburgring, our colleagues at Car and Driver noticed something interesting—two distinct cut lines on the roof. They speculate that the mid-engine 'Vette has a removable roof panel. That's not the world's biggest surprise, as all Corvettes since the late 1960s has featured pop-out roof panels—save for the C5 Z06 and fixed-head coupe, and the C6 Z06 and ZR1.

    We're not sure if this means Chevy won't do a conventional convertible version of the Corvette, but that's hard to believe. Then again, this car breaks with a lot of traditions

    It's Going Racing, Possibly with V-6 Power

    While prototypes are out on public roads doing testing now, the racing version of the C8 spotted at Road America getting ready for the 2020 season. As with all Corvette race cars dating back to the C5-R, the C8.R will be built by Pratt and Miller and entered into the IMSA WeatherTech Series. A run at the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 2021 is possible, too.

    Audio from the C8.R's test sessions reveal a car that sounds quite different than the thundering C7.R, leading us to wonder if this car has a V-6, or perhaps a flat-plane V-8.[/Quote]

    https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...e-2018-rumors/
    Last edited by John; 03-12-2019, 02:23 PM.
    2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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    I understand the tech in these cars, and it’s the future,, or is it. If you look at the Acura NSX, it has a twin turbo V6 with 2 inboard front wheel electric motors, and one electric motor on the flywheel, the flywheel motor also is the starter motor. Huge can serial bus systems , extra ECU to control how and when the electric motors integrate with the ICE. All this adds up to 573horsepower, with 476 lb/ft torque. Curb weight is over 3900 lbs. AND, a mileage rating of 20-22 mpg.. and a lot that can and will go wrong.
    it is definitely a fast car with 4 wheel drive, pulling 0 to 60 in under 3.2 seconds. But, base price is $156k and with options over 200k
    seems to me that a ME Corvette with a pushrod engine will do that and get 25-30 mpg at a lower cost. Plus much simpler systems .
    careful what you wish for,

    3LT Long Beach Red , Z51, FE4 , ZZ3, Black interior ,38S red stitching, Q8T, FA5, ER1, CFX, and R8C

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    • #3
      This quote stuck out for me since myself and others have pointed out two different varieties of roof cut lines, and were doing it well before Nuremberg. One type is consistent with a targa roof and the other with a hard top convertible.

      Looking at a batch of photos of the C8 Corvette testing on the Nürburgring, our colleagues at Car and Driver noticed something interesting—two distinct cut lines on the roof. They speculate that the mid-engine 'Vette has a removable roof panel. That's not the world's biggest surprise, as all Corvettes since the late 1960s has featured pop-out roof panels—save for the C5 Z06 and fixed-head coupe, and the C6 Z06 and ZR1.
      These guys should have spent more time on the forums!

      Here's my thread from 12th July. Nuremberg was almost 2 months later. https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...e-step-in-here
      Last edited by Bikerjulio; 03-12-2019, 12:08 PM.
      2020 C8 Corvette.D.O.B 2/03/2020
      Shadow Grey Metallic on Black
      2LT, Z51 + MRC. GT1 seats.
      Spectra Grey Tridents.
      Carbon flash mirrors and spoiler.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Racer86
        I understand the tech in these cars, and it’s the future,, or is it. If you look at the Acura NSX, it has a twin turbo V6 with 2 inboard front wheel electric motors, and one electric motor on the flywheel, the flywheel motor also is the starter motor. Huge can serial bus systems , extra ECU to control how and when the electric motors integrate with the ICE. All this adds up to 573horsepower, with 476 lb/ft torque. Curb weight is over 3900 lbs. AND, a mileage rating of 20-22 mpg.. and a lot that can and will go wrong.
        it is definitely a fast car with 4 wheel drive, pulling 0 to 60 in under 3.2 seconds. But, base price is $156k and with options over 200k
        seems to me that a ME Corvette with a pushrod engine will do that and get 25-30 mpg at a lower cost. Plus much simpler systems .
        careful what you wish for,
        Really good perspective/info Racer86. One of the major options still under consideration for me is to get a first year model, with its good old American V8 OHV Chevy, now in LT2 form, and then maybe a year later have Lingenfelter turn it into a monster —though still naturally aspirated .
        2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by John

          Really good perspective/info Racer86. One of the major options still under consideration for me is to get a first year model, with its good old American V8 OHV Chevy, now in LT2 form, and then maybe a year later have Lingenfelter turn it into a monster —though still naturally aspirated .
          Good plan, current ( the ones we play with) pushrod 358 ci V8’s are pushing out 840- 890 hp and rev to 9000rpm. Of course that is not a smog legal engine but very driveable on the street. Lower the rev limit to 8000, install new valve springs every few years and these engines will out last me.
          3LT Long Beach Red , Z51, FE4 , ZZ3, Black interior ,38S red stitching, Q8T, FA5, ER1, CFX, and R8C

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          • #6
            Good idea John and Racer86. Pushrod plus Ligenfielter plus classic 427 cubes would be my dream machine.

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            • #7
              Lingenfelter does great work! Just talked with Ken on the phone today on another subject.
              2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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