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CORVETTE TODAY #164 - My Trip To The Amelia Island Concours

In March of this year, your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, attended the unveiling of the three 1960 Cunningham Corvettes from Le Mans at the Amelia Island Concours. Steve recaps his weekend at Amelia Island and all the events that took place during the show! https://youtu.be/qbRpTBgmINk; https://adori.page.link/?link=https:..._iipp=1&_icp=1
The Cunningham Corvettes were the hit of the entire weekend and you'll hear about the whole story on this episode of CORVETTE TODAY.
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Sigala Back As MECF Venodr

What is new? For MECF members, has developed a new customer communications system, trained more staff, and with some inducements is committed to providing your products along their stated completion timelines.
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CORVETTE TODAY #163 - Corvette News & Headlines, Late May 2023

Recognizing Memorial Day, there is still a lot of news coming out in the world of Corvette! Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger is back on the show with your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, to detail all the important things happening with America's Sports Car.
https://youtu.be/rxfxMDsr05Y; https://adori.page.link/?link=https:..._iipp=1&_icp=1
Here are a few of the topics covered by Steve and Keith on this week's show:
1. Engineers are spotted in what we think is the C8 ZR1 prototype
2. We have two new E-Ray videos available
3. New Z06 allocations went out in the middle of this month (May 2023)
4. The National Corvette Museum names a new Marketing Director
5. Australia recalls the 2022 C8 Corvette for being too loud
6. Did GM's Instagram page give us a C9 Corvette preview?
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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2023 Corvette Brochure: https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...D7Q0fp8nIEE57Y
E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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    C8 Will Sell For MSRP At Top Three Dealers!

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    Many who are negative about the C8 have been posted horror stories about rumored component problems, imagined appearance inadequacies, pricing in the $150,000+ range to start, and similar. A very negative, but often repeated post in certain internet circles is that whatever its MSRP really is, that dealers are going to gouge their C8 customers with wildly inflated “market price adjustments” way above MSRP.

    Having watched pricing of the Corvette for the last few generations, the top selling forum dealers they have always been straight shooters. Even when the very first few orders of a brand new generation Corvette were sold, the top three current dealers, specifically Kerbeck, MacMulkin and Criswell, never charged over list during the C7 generation, nor did they during the entire C6 generation.

    These three top dealers, and they are not the only dealers who treated their customers right, not only each started their new generation Corvette sales at sticker, but in spite of very limited supply for such specialty models as the 2019 ZR1 (now one year into its manufacture and just under 2,000 total made despite multiple hundreds of yet filled order dealer pre-ordering lists), and also for other specialty models like the 2014, 500 max production Premiere Edition coupe, the 500 max production Premiere Edition convertible, the very first C7 Z06’s, and other speciality C6 and C7 Corvettes, always the special, limited and initial-generation-orders were always sold by these three dealers at MSRP.

    However, in spite of this factual pricing history, why do we on the internet keep reading tens of C8 posters warning that this time it is going to be different, and the first C8 orders would carry stickers for massive, additional market adjustment pricing.

    Let’s us put this inaccurate horror story to bed, at least among the top three dealerships in the country.

    First at Criswell Chevrolet, Mike Furman who has been accepting deposits on the C8 since June, 2014, has repeatedly stated for a very long time that he would be selling C8’s at MSRP. Mike also has a two nice components of your getting on his list, in that he will refund your deposit at any time. Yes, you read that correctly, even after you order it. This is such a radical concept that I just called, talked with Mike, and confirmed this with him, for as he noted the C8 will be so hot, that if a customer backs out, “I will can either put that C8 into stock, or more probably within days, someone else will have wanted/bought that car.” Also, he noted that his deposit is not activated (not placed on your credit card) until he actually places your order.

    Yesterday, the top Corvette salesperson at # 1 Kerbeck, Dave Salvatore, formally in writing stated that Kerbeck will be charging sticker for the C8 for those who get on their ordering list.

    Originally posted by [email protected]
    Yes, anyone who gives a deposit to get on this list will be able to purchase the car at MSRP.
    I also confirmed today with Tommy Thompson, Principal, # 2 MacMulkin Chevrolet’s Principal, that they will also be charging sticker for the next generation Corvette. Great folks at MacMulkin. They have stated this in writing for months that they will be charging MSRP.

    Again, there are other dealers who will charge list pricing when they consummate their first C8 sales. Buyers must however do their due diligence, for even now a full year after the first 2019 ZR1’s were sold, I was just advised of a dealer in Southern California who has two ZR1’s sitting in their showroom for which they refuse (at least as of yesterday) to reduce their +$20,000 market adjustment pricing. Since I personally know a person who paid +$25,000 over MSRP in southern Florida for a brand new 2015 Z06 immediately after customer deliveries started, and also know of some Texas C7 sales of short supply C7 versions in that same +$10,000 to + $25,000 over-sticker range, initial C8 buyers must be smart where they buy their 2020 mid engine Corvettes.

    Of course there is a second major matter that will rear its head when C8 start to go in, and that is size of dealer allocation. This is especially true for partially constrained options, were GM always rewards those limited options is positive disproportionment to their allocation size.

    Thanks to the top three, Criswell, MacMulkin and Kerbeck, already stating that they will be pricing their early next generation Corvettes at MSRP, this will give prospective buyers a good start on not paying more than they need to for their early-ordered C8. If you go elsewhere, upfront discussions with your dealer on their initial eighth generation pricing policies would be good. Or go with their known very-high-allocation, history of MSRP pricing for desirable models/versions from these forum dealers...





    Last edited by John; 03-07-2019, 05:56 PM.
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    Well I am waiting for the C 8 hope it is very soon, I think it will be very nice, but hope the G. M. does not overwhelm us with the price.

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      golden boy, from what i am hearing (of course not a word from GM), I think the entry price of the ME will be golden, e.g., I can hear Tadge or Harlan saying at its reveal, “if you can afford a moderately equipped Grand Sport, you can afford a ME.” Again that is not inside info, but reading the tea leaves that have been coming my way from several folks. And what does a moderately equipped GS cost? Around $75K.
      2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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      • #4
        That's a great rendering!

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        • #5
          Very good info and advice.

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          • #6
            My dealer went under new ownership about 6 months ago. However when I was in for service a while back I got assurances from the new sales manager that they would stick with the prior owner's policy of not asking above MSRP and that would include the C8. If that changes, I would certainly point out to them the options I have to go elsewhere.

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            • #7
              Great to hear that the major Corvette dealers are signing up for MSRP sales. My local dealers have absolutely no problems with astronomical "Market Adjustments". So good job to the dealers who won't do that

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              • #8
                Our Corvettes are expensive to begin with. Especially in year one with very rare discounts, I will not pay over MSRP.

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                • #9
                  I'm glad to hear that these dealers are honest and up front on their sales tactics and not charging over MSRP. In most cases, a little patience and good negotiation will get you the vehicle you want for under MSRP. I suppose there is always the potential premium price to pay for some, for being the first to have an ME in their driveway!.
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                  • #10
                    I've had a $2000 deposit with MacMulkin since November. Nice folks up there in New Hampshire.
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                    • #11
                      Speaking of allocations, I met with the general manager of the dealer that sponsors our Corvette club yesterday. He said they were just told by GM that allocations for the C8 will be based on Corvette sales in 2018, not 2019. Possibly in recognition of how badly sales of the C7 have fallen off in 2019.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shepherd777 View Post
                        I've had a $2000 deposit with MacMulkin since November. Nice folks up there in New Hampshire.
                        Shepherd777, you will be treated excellently by them. They did a superb job in placing, handling, executing my 2015 Z06 order.
                        2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                          I think the price maybe higher than some think the 60-70 range is too low IMO. I look for it to be at least the priced at C7Z06 MSRP levels. I'm waiting for the second year or maybe the third year car to see what it brings. It will take the upper model C8 to out pace the C7 Z06. Car are changing fast Europe is limiting the speeds of all new cars in 2022 to the speed limits.
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                            Originally posted by 3 Z06ZR1 View Post
                            I think the price maybe higher than some think the 60-70 range is too low IMO. I look for it to be at least the priced at C7Z06 MSRP levels. I'm waiting for the second year or maybe the third year car to see what it brings. It will take the upper model C8 to out pace the C7 Z06. Car are changing fast Europe is limiting the speeds of all new cars in 2022 to the speed limits.
                            I don’t think that is a reasonable assumption. I would imagine they would lose the majority of current owners. You would most likely not have the option to buy a Corvette at all before long as sales would tank.
                            There is a madness to my method!
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                            • #15
                              Going to be a lot of happy folks when the C8’s pricing comes out. Bob Lutz is to be trusted on his predictions of two key C8 components, that first, “GM has solved the mid engine cargo space issue,” and second, that “the C8 models are going to be a little more, version for version than the C7.” While he publicly states that these are his beliefs, not based on inside knowledge, Maximum Bob is way more connected and thus C8 knowledgeable, than he publicly portrays.

                              Let us also not forget Harlan’s not-so-cryptic comment as Sebring, “2019 is going to be a very good year.”

                              Happy times ahead!




                              2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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