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  • Top Gear reviews the C8 in Britain

    Spoiler: they like it.

    https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...20/first-drive

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    Corvette C8 review: new Stingray arrives in Britain

    Is this a good reason for a quick UK-US trade deal?


    Hey, keep politics out of Top Gear. Besides, it’s not the machinations of the WTO or Brexit that have kept the Corvette out of the UK so far.



    Nope, the obstacles are General Motors’ own. It has never made the Corvette in right-hand drive. And frankly it wasn’t a very UK-friendly car in other ways.

    Now things are different. This is the new mid-engined, eighth-generation Corvette. It was designed to compete with European supercars. And GM still says the Vette will be available in the UK from late 2021, with a highly specced Z51 package. Crucially, it will have the steering wheel on the right side.

    In the meantime, the first left-hand-drive example has been brought here by London dealer Clive Sutton. It too is in Z51 spec. Compared with America’s base-spec Stingray, the Z51 pack means better tyres and brakes, a sophisticated limited-slip diff and other tasty bits of sporting engineering. It also has the optional adaptive dampers that official cars will get. And we’ve driven it.

    Welcome import or chlorinated chicken?

    That’s a relevant question. Up to now, the Corvette hasn’t travelled well. I’ve driven several generations and specs of Corvettes in the US. They all felt pretty fine over there. Then they landed in the UK and… didn’t. But, spoiler alert, this new one… did.

    What’s the C8 all about?

    I’ll keep this brief. A sophisticated cast-and-sheet aluminium backbone structure carries glassfibre panels. The engine is an all-aluminium naturally aspirated V8, pushing through an eight-speed twin-clutch transmission. The suspension is aluminium too.

    So it’s light-ish: about 1,600kg with fluids. That V8 is a 6.2-litre pushrod job with variable timing on its camshaft so there’s no shortage of torque: 470lb ft. But a pushrod valvetrain doesn’t like big revs, so max power of 495bhp is at just 6,450rpm.


    Don’t Corvettes have to be useable, too?

    Yes. So it has decent boots in the back and front. The roof panel (optionally carbonfibre in this car) pops easily out and stores in the back. They designed the structure so that the sills are low, making it easy to get in and out.

    The nose lifts hydraulically for ramps and speedbumps. This is linked to the sat nav, so if you store locations, it will rise automatically next time you’re there. There’s head-up display, heated and vented seats, wireless phone charging, CarPlay, all-round parking cameras and blind-spot sensors and a Bose stereo.

    And of course the small-block V8 is related to the engines that power a squillion American pick-ups. So it’s a whole lot easier and less demanding to service than a quad-cam Italian screamer.


    Does it carry the supercar swagger?

    While we were photographing it, several serious petrolheads walked and drove by, and they were unanimously impressed. It’s a sharp-cut design, more NSX than Ferrari. But stare for longer and it’s like the designers had no confidence in themselves. By way of compensation they kept adding more and more creases. If you take a lateral cross-section just aft of the headlamps, the body has 13 longitudinal lines.

    Inside it’s busy, too. Still, it combines usability with drama, and that’s what’s needed. The quality of the leather, plastics, switches and screens is all it needs to be.

    Six point two litres then. How does that go?

    Consistently, and persistently. Press the throttle, a little or a lot, and you get what you were expecting. That’s super-satisfying.

    But it’s not brutal. This is performance you can use, in its entirety, on the road. Give it full throttle, hear – feel – the noise, and enjoy holding it there. It’s not like the performance of today’s full-on supercars, where all you can do is dip your toe right down, as if dipping into boiling water, then withdraw.

    The throttle response isn’t super-sharp. Not like an electric motor. But it’s sharper than turbos. So it’s a cinch to drive smoothly, and to balance the car in a corner by deploying exactly the power you want.

    The transmission can get a little indecisive in choosing its gears, but it’s always smooth. Mostly I just used the paddles. It’s super-attentive to them.


    What’ll it do?

    American manufacturers don’t quote performance figures. The magazines over there use 0-60mph, with a one-foot ‘rollout’ - in other words the clock doesn’t start until the car’s well underway. They tend to get 0-60 times in the 3.3-second ballpark for the Corvette, and about the same for a base-model 911. The way we test cars, a 911 gets 0-62mph just under 4.0sec. So you can assume similar for the Corvette.

    But to be honest this car didn’t feel that quick. It could have been tight, mind, because it was brand new and had few miles on it. So I didn’t want to be unsympathetic by repeatedly revving it out.

    It sounds pretty cultured, without the hammering yowl of say the old front-engined Z06 or ZR1. In fact it’s surprisingly quiet going gently, so you don’t feel like a yob. But there are variable flaps in the silencer, so changing modes will find it a bit more voice.


    Yeah, yeah, ‘Vettes have always done well on V8 charisma. It’s the handling and steering where they came unstuck over here.

    Quite. And here the C8 departs from the script. It no longer suffers from over-quick steering, and it isn’t knocked off course by bumps. This is a chassis that feels right at home down your British road.

    The steering is direct and you’re sitting near the front wheels. It’s not lazy. But critically it isn’t nervous either. Early US reports mention understeer, but they’re emphasising track driving. On a road, it gives you a sense of how much grip you’ve got. Then, leaning on the wonderfully progressive throttle, you can just balance it via the rear tyres, letting the electronically controlled diff do its stuff. That part, at road speeds, happens very satisfyingly, and the traction control allows a bit of oversteer.

    Look, it doesn’t have the transcendent communication of an Alpine A110 or Lotus Exige or McLaren 570S, but it’s still a car that left me feeling relaxed and confident as well as excited. That’s never happened to me before in a Corvette in Britain.


    But you’re making it sound like a GT not a supercar.

    The springs are fairly supple, and the adaptive dampers allow them to breathe. That’s part of the reason it’s so well-composed on a B-road – it’s not slowed down by the bumps and dips. Wind up through the modes and it tautens and sharpens, but even ‘sport’ and sometimes ‘track’ are still relevant if the road is smoother. Remember, LHD cars always face a ride handicap because you’re sitting above the broken edge of the road.

    For dual-carriageways or busy roads, stick it in ‘tour’ and the powertrain eases off, the ride’s relaxed, the tyres don’t roar or slap. Yes, this a car you’d be happy to do big miles in.


    Sounds properly tempting. Especially at US prices.

    With the Z51 pack and adaptive dampers it’s about $70,000 plus tax over there. For comparison the 911, naked of any options, grazes $100k.

    Over here it’s different. The 911 is £83k including tax but plus options. We’re promised the RHD Corvette will be £81,700 for the fully loaded Launch Edition coupe. Whether GM manages to stick with that when the car finally lands here towards the end of 2021 is up for debate and likely to come after various trade and Brexit negotiations, plus any more Covid-related hiccups. So it matches the base 911 but hugely undercuts the other mid-engined mass-maker exotics, the Honda NSX and Audi R8.

    That makes some kind of sense. The Corvette doesn’t have quite the same blissful precision as the 911, but it does come with some great spec, and a really pretty impressive set of road manners. Oh and did we mention the naturally aspirated V8?

    Clive Sutton’s example has even more spec, including the carbonfibre roof and engine decor, and a nose lift, taking it towards being a $100k car in the US. It’s for sale at £132,000, reflecting the amount of effort and cost incurred by bringing a car across from the US - not only the 10 per cent import duty and 20 per cent VAT, but the expense of putting the car through an IVA test in order to register it in the UK.

    Beyond that, the price is further offset by the US’s Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP). Suggested, not necessarily actual. The Corvette is new and popular, says Sutton, so US dealers are marking them up and selling them for well over list. Still, people will pay to jump the queue for rare sports cars (especially if, as reported, RHD ‘Vettes are delayed). And in this case whoever buys it will be getting a good one too.


    Score: 8/10
    SunKissed, my 2015 2LT, 7MT, Black over Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic, Stingray convertible (One of about 40)

    Purchased 5/2/2015,
    >36,000 miles

    Proud member of the Old Dominion Corvette Club. Check us out http://www.olddominioncorvetteclub.org

    Never grow up - It's a trap.

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    Thanks meyerweb. Top Gear likes a new Corvette? That is an assessment of how outstanding the C8 is.
    GBA Black; HTO Twilight/Tension interior; Z51 & Mag Ride; E60 lift; 5VM visible carbon fiber package; 5ZZ high wing; FA5 interior vis CF; ZZ3 engine appearance; 3LT; Q8T Spectra Gray Tridents; J6N Edge Red Calipers; SNG Edge Red Hashmarks; VQK Splash Guards; RCC Edge Red engine cover; VJR illuminated sill plates. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 23 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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    • #3
      It's disappointing to keep reading reviews of the C8 options when the basic car is so impressive.
      Torch red 1LT, no options. Built June 4, received July 2

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      • #4
        I am so fearful that these reviewers are testing cars that have less than 500 miles. I really felt the difference in Torque when my break-in was complete.

        On regular roads I can easily get a 0-100 km/h time of 3.0 seconds.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Happy2bHere View Post
          I am so fearful that these reviewers are testing cars that have less than 500 miles. I really felt the difference in Torque when my break-in was complete.

          On regular roads I can easily get a 0-100 km/h time of 3.0 seconds.
          Yeah, I had that thought, too. It bothers me for two reasons: 1, they're not getting accurate performance times because the torque is limited, and 2, that car is for sale. Some poor buyer is going to get one that's been run hard before it was broken in.
          SunKissed, my 2015 2LT, 7MT, Black over Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic, Stingray convertible (One of about 40)

          Purchased 5/2/2015,
          >36,000 miles

          Proud member of the Old Dominion Corvette Club. Check us out http://www.olddominioncorvetteclub.org

          Never grow up - It's a trap.

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          • #6
            Have the real top gear guys (i.e., Clarkson and crew) reviewed the car? I'm way behind on Grand Tour.
            Status 3000. 2021 Red Mist HTC / Z51 /Mag Ride / Yellow Calipers / C-Flash Mirrors and Wing / Front Lift / Black 3LT / CF Interior Trim / Yellow Belts and Stitching

            Atomic Orange C6. Plenty of engine and suspension mods.

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            • #7
              Thanks for sharing

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Happy2bHere View Post
                I am so fearful that these reviewers are testing cars that have less than 500 miles. I really felt the difference in Torque when my break-in was complete.

                On regular roads I can easily get a 0-100 km/h time of 3.0 seconds.
                Does it programmatically change?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ragtop 99 View Post
                  Have the real top gear guys (i.e., Clarkson and crew) reviewed the car? I'm way behind on Grand Tour.
                  With their glacial speed for new episodes, you can catch up with ease.
                  Their next one is Dec 18th. About 1 or 2 a year maybe.
                  They don't do any car reviews; just travel stuff now.
                  I liked all since except for brit/red Chris Evans. So much that I flew over to be in the studio audience.
                  What a day. Worked full day (I start about 5 am). Flew from Indy 5 pm to Boston 7 pm ; 10 pm departed for Gatwick 8:20 am; hopped in rental Skoda Fabia, drove straight to Dunsfold; stood for 6 hours for filming of parts of 2 or 3 shows. This is the one that was easiest to spot me. Two shows were the Tuk Tuk.

                  Then left studios/aerodrome and drove at night to Salisbury, where the russians had just done that nerve agent attack. What a trip!
                  They had a contest to see who traveled the farthest. My 4,000 miles easily won. LOL

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EsophagusCancer2008 View Post
                    Does it programmatically change?
                    Yes. Once you pass 500 miles it unlocks the torque and the redline visually adjusts on the tachometer. The revs were never physically limited, but the tq is.

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                    • #11
                      Reading the comments of the article shows, just how *****ly these Brit journalists are.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Skank View Post
                        Reading the comments of the article shows, just how *****ly these Brit journalists are.
                        If it's not got a English heritage moniker, they pick it apart. Even though they'd all love to drive ONCE on our wide-open, wide, not narrow, and did I say OPEN... roads... with the steering wheel on the side GOD INTENDED! Who shifts with their LEFT HAND!? I drove a single seat race car at Silverstone track, and it was a RIGHT-HAND shifter...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EsophagusCancer2008 View Post

                          Who shifts with their LEFT HAND!?
                          I've done it down under. The shifting part was easy to adjust to. The fact that the turn signal and windshield wiper stalks were reversed took more practice. More than once I signaled for a turn by turning on the wipers instead of the blinkers. 😁
                          Status 3000. 2021 Red Mist HTC / Z51 /Mag Ride / Yellow Calipers / C-Flash Mirrors and Wing / Front Lift / Black 3LT / CF Interior Trim / Yellow Belts and Stitching

                          Atomic Orange C6. Plenty of engine and suspension mods.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ragtop 99 View Post

                            I've done it down under. The shifting part was easy to adjust to. The fact that the turn signal and windshield wiper stalks were reversed took more practice. More than once I signaled for a turn by turning on the wipers instead of the blinkers. 😁
                            That was exactly my experience! Driving on the left was no problem for me, nor was shifting left handed, but those darn stalks.....
                            SunKissed, my 2015 2LT, 7MT, Black over Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic, Stingray convertible (One of about 40)

                            Purchased 5/2/2015,
                            >36,000 miles

                            Proud member of the Old Dominion Corvette Club. Check us out http://www.olddominioncorvetteclub.org

                            Never grow up - It's a trap.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by meyerweb View Post

                              That was exactly my experience! Driving on the left was no problem for me, nor was shifting left handed, but those darn stalks.....
                              I kept grabbing for the door handle to shift.
                              And I struggled with parallel parking for some reason.
                              Last edited by RKCRLR; 11-19-2020, 12:43 PM.
                              2020 C8 Stingray Convertible - Torch Red - Natural Dipped 3LT - Z51 w/MSRC - Front Lift

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