Undisguised porsche 911 convertible photos c8 competitor

[JB]

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/13/...let-spy-shots/

[Bikerjulio]

Out of a mild curiosity I just checked base MSRP of base model convertibles in Canada on their sites.

Corvette Stingray convertible starts at CAN$69,845 (US$52,383) and that's without current discounts in the 7-10k range.

Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet starts at CAN$118,100 (US$88,575).

Porsche base MSRP is therefore 69% higher than the Corvette.

So I always have trouble understanding all the threads talking about the 2 as competing. There's just no comparison on price. And that's before we get into the lack of dealer network for Porsche outside the big city.

[JB]

Really Just conversation as the 911 had been considered a performance competitor to the corvette for many decades..

porsche has easily released the photos whereby the corvette is still missing in action.

of course porsches 911 is extremely evolutionary in styling so its not really a big surprise its being shown while the revoltionary corvette is still hodden,

pricewise you are correct...the germans are quite a bit more expensive.


lots of wealthy people consider both.

i realize on the internet its said ad nausium that corvette owners buy corvettes because they cant afford porsches which really isnt the case.

thats more troll bait statements to try and insult corvette owners in the safety of a computer screen ...

i checked out the porsches and the jaguar f type v8....at the request of my wife...

she was lime why do i keep buying new corvettes....and asked me to at least consider the other two mentioned...

moneys not always an issue..,or the sole issue...sometimes its the durability that each manufacturer builds in the validation process...and of course the excellence in service...

i enjoy servicing my corvette whereas the jaguar especially scares the **** out of me as an ongoing perpetual PIA..

porsche less so but the absurity of repairs amd maintaince i keep hearing about german cars goes against my value system...

[WWR]

I like the F TYPE. I think its smaller than the CORVETTE. but where I live "who's gonna fix it?" That is very important to me. It's like you take a trip in a CORVETTE and you have a problem there's a good chance their is a CHEVY dealership near by turns out the "water pump" needs replacing A good dealer might have one or in some cases take one from another vehicle and you are on your way. Now you're in a PORSCHE and a part fails... "Sorry sir no dealers around here. then what? One more tid bit I saw that the CUP HOLDER on the Ferrari Portofino is $2531.
It's only money huh?

[Busa Dave]

I like the F TYPE. I think its smaller than the CORVETTE. but where I live "who's gonna fix it?" That is very important to me. It's like you take a trip in a CORVETTE and you have a problem there's a good chance their is a CHEVY dealership near by turns out the "water pump" needs replacing A good dealer might have one or in some cases take one from another vehicle and you are on your way. Now you're in a PORSCHE and a part fails... "Sorry sir no dealers around here. then what? One more tid bit I saw that the CUP HOLDER on the Ferrari Portofino is $2531.
It's only money huh?

"take one from another vehicle" Do not think so chances of that are slim and none Just think about the labor involved then refilling per the procedure and burping the system. Too much risk not to mention cost to cannibalize a new vehicle and costs not coved by GM to put the other one back together.

[John]

Good points WWR! Identically for us, what if on our annual drive from the West Coast through Wyoming to go the BASH, what if my Lambo Huracan blows a sensor and the car comes to a stop on the side of the interstate? (Oh yes, I don’t own one).

Back in the 1970’s we owned a Citroen DS21 Pallas (with real leather everywhere, including its headliner). Then it started its problem phase. First we had to drive it 70 miles to get to a dealer to service it. Then the last service area within our state went under, so we had to get it to Seattle (250 miles away) for service. Then have our TWA pilot friend, who flew to Paris once a month, bring us the needed parts to get it fixed, then the last Seattle service area went under. We were just about to take a road trip, hoping we would make it to Salt Lake City to have it fixed, but just before that decided enough was enough and sold it for 75 cents on the dollar.

Lesson learned, that serviceability is an issue for many of us!

[JB]

I happened to be 20 minutes from jaguar headquarters and have a few aquaintances who mentioned they get massive discount lease deals...

service isnt an issue for a large jaguar dealer as they took over the large mercedes dealership as mercedes moved to the pontiac dealership lot that they demolished and built a massive dealership...

the pricing out of warranty on these foreign cars is brutal...almost legendary..

fasttoys says he can get a five year warranty with a $250 deductible ...but the down time still is a massive annoyance that meeds to be considered.

my trainer with her bmw m6 convertible and her stories of constant and massive repair bills are scarey...

i think she has 66k miles and I keep suggesting a corvette as the one I have is rock solid...

shes a little bit of a diva who needs to prject a certain image in her own mind...

i just shake my head and laugh.

[WWR]

"take one from another vehicle" Do not think so chances of that are slim and none Just think about the labor involved then refilling per the procedure and burping the system. Too much risk not to mention cost to cannibalize a new vehicle and costs not coved by GM to put the other one back together.

I wrote that because it has happened to ME( the part is just an example). Some people go out of their way to help folks. Not often in 2018 but it has happened. This is a little different. A friend bought a new C6, the dealers traded car for car when the friends CORVETTE came in it had NO hardware for the 2nd top so the salesman took whatever was necessary from a C6 sitting in the show room put it on the "sold" one and everyone was happy. Especially the guy that just bought a new CORVETTE. INSTANT LOYALTY

[WWR]

I happened to be 20 minutes from jaguar headquarters and have a few aquaintances who mentioned they get massive discount lease deals...

service isnt an issue for a large jaguar dealer as they took over the large mercedes dealership as mercedes moved to the pontiac dealership lot that they demolished and built a massive dealership...

the pricing out of warranty on these foreign cars is brutal...almost legendary..

fasttoys says he can get a five year warranty with a $250 deductible ...but the down time still is a massive annoyance that meeds to be considered.

my trainer with her bmw m6 convertible and her stories of constant and massive repair bills are scarey...

i think she has 66k miles and I keep suggesting a corvette as the one I have is rock solid...

shes a little bit of a diva who needs to prject a certain image in her own mind...

i just shake my head and laugh.

I was told AUDI was outrageous after the warranty was up.

[Busa Dave]

I wrote that because it has happened to ME( the part is just an example). Some people go out of their way to help folks. Not often in 2018 but it has happened. This is a little different. A friend bought a new C6, the dealers traded car for car when the friends CORVETTE came in it had NO hardware for the 2nd top so the salesman took whatever was necessary from a C6 sitting in the show room put it on the "sold" one and everyone was happy. Especially the guy that just bought a new CORVETTE. INSTANT LOYALTY

Understand----Water Pump is not something that would be cannibalized nor would a transmission for example. Glad you got than taken care of but back then it was a different GM than exists today with the way warranty repairs are performed, tracked and paid for by GM.

If I found out that I had bought a new car that had the water pump cannibalized and replaced because someone did not want to wait for a repair I would be livid and would raise quite a stink about it at all levels and with all of the resources I have. Believe me GM does not want that getting around that they condone that because the flip side is you do it once and where does it end? I can understand possibly a easily removed trip piece but anything mechanical no way.

Wonder how many people here as picky as they are about their cars would buy the "new" off the production floor car that had been repaired due to being cannibalized or buy the new un altered from factory assembly one next to it? I think we all know the answer.

[WWR]

Understand----Water Pump is not something that would be cannibalized nor would a transmission for example. Glad you got than taken care of but back then it was a different GM than exists today with the way warranty repairs are performed, tracked and paid for by GM.

If I found out that I had bought a new car that had the water pump cannibalized and replaced because someone did not want to wait for a repair I would be livid and would raise quite a stink about it at all levels and with all of the resources I have. Believe me GM does not want that getting around that they condone that because the flip side is you do it once and where does it end? I can understand possibly a easily removed trip piece but anything mechanical no way.

Wonder how many people here as picky as they are about their cars would buy the "new" off the production floor car that had been repaired due to being cannibalized or buy the new un altered from factory assembly one next to it? I think we all know the answer.

OK how about a battery or a hose clamp or a fuse. How about ANYTHING to help the guy

[Busa Dave]

OK how about a battery or a hose clamp or a fuse. How about ANYTHING to help the guy

Are you willing for "ANYTHING" to come off of the vehicle you buy or ordered? Did not think so. My point has been made. It is what it is..

[MikeC8]

I had a 911 SC which I really enjoyed back in the late 80’s. But I can’t bring myself to like the current design of the Porsche..

[John]

Porsches are great cars! (No sarcasm.) They however also do not visually speak to me either, nor to my gearhead wife (she is even less kind in her descriptions of them). Also $30K overpriced IMO, for to get 470 HP on a 911 starts at $120,700, but that would stil not be enough for me to buy one, for I have to have a visual crush on a car to own it as my sports car.

[Busa Dave]

John---very well stated. For me it is performance then visual and both is just Outstanding! The base price of the German machines are not too unreasonable BUT put the same options you would on a 3LT Z06 and it will over double in most cases lol