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  • To “Z” or not to “Z”

    Trying to figure out what the heck I want for my C8 and not sure I want or need the Z51 Option, thus I made a pros vs cons list but am still uncertain:

    Pros: Rear Spoiler, front splitter: Performance exhaust: Better Brakes: Better cooling
    Coms: $$$$

    Will I track it? Yes, at least a couple times to feel the exhilaration, but don’t need the Z pkg track it right.

    I want a rear spoiler and front splitter on it and know of no other way to get it other than aftermarket but any accessories I buy for this car I want to be all GM at factory or dealer installed.

    At first I was thinking trim level1LT, but I like the electronic folding mirrors, heated and vented seats, hud, and better stereo, so that made it definitely a 2LT.

    So far I think I got it down to the following:
    COUPE
    2LT
    (Z51) or (MRC)
    R8C

    Every time I look at prices, I think, screw it, what’s another $1000, what’s another $2000 and then my wife gets in the mix with this question: “When’s the next time I’m ever gonna buy another brand new Corvette? you might as well get what you want cause you’ll only regret it, if get the car is missing options you dreamt of”

    Ok. I just wasted 10 minutes typing this down and 2 minutes of your time reading this. After re-reading what my wife’s comments were, which I just typed, I just answered my own flipping question. God, I Love my wife!

    This was truly an exercise in futility!!!

    Sorry Gentleman & ladies on the forum. I guess I needed to see it in front of me.

    I knew I should’ve had that frontal lobotomy rather than the bottle in front of me 🤯
    "07/01/20 Placed deposit on 2021 C8 Coupe: 08/01/20 Preliminary order placed in GM Workbench: 2LT: G9F: FE2: NPP: VST: VDK: R8C"

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    All valid questions we’re all have to ask ourselves ... good luck with your choice.
    Deposit placed on June 18 2020, for 2021 HTC Z51 2LT Red Mist Tintcoat/2-Tone Sky Cool Grey
    Current 1999 Magnetic Red C5 Z51

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    • #3
      IIRC, There is a warranty risk if you track a non-Z51.
      Status 3000. 2021 Red Mist HTC / Z51 /Mag Ride / Yellow Calipers / C-Flash Mirrors and Wing / Front Lift / Black 3LT / CF Interior Trim / Yellow Belts and Stitching

      Atomic Orange C6. Plenty of engine and suspension mods.

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      • #4
        Yep-get exactly what you want as life can be too short and you surely can't take it with you. Load her up and enjoy every dollar you spent hundreds if not thousands of times.
        Rocket City Florida

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        • #5
          Wouldn't it be possible to get the spoiler and splitter thru GM Parts?
          Save the wave.

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          • #6
            Buying a C8 is based more on emotion than practicality, so I think that the same should apply to how you option it. Get what you want, not what you need. Once you get it, the cost will seem worthit. Or, another way to look at it is get what you can afford and you feel you deserve. My wife said exactly the same thing to me.

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            • #7
              I went through the same exercise minus my wife”s input. I decided to go with Z51, MRC on 2LT platform. Still undecided on color.

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              • #8
                I got the Z package not because I needed it or I would track it but because I wanted it. Also it will bring more money when my kid has to sell it .

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                • #9
                  I got a 1LT, no Z51, no performance exhaust. Figured the aftermarket would have plenty of choices for exhaust later if I don't want to enjoy the radio anymore. Not going to track it. I'm not regretting it at all. The car is still blazing fast and the handling is so much fun, and I don't need to buy extra wheels and tires to drive in the colder months. Resale? I don't care about that. Visibility out the back is not a problem, without the mirror camera. I have my outside mirrors adjusted so there's no blind spot to speak of. Never been a wing fan, I prefer the clean look on the rear deck. Looking back, the performance exhaust would probably be the only thing I would add in. The sport exhaust sound is pretty good at hard acceleration. Whatever you decide to get, just be happy with it. This car has so much to offer the driver that the whistles and bells fall to the wayside IMHO.

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                  • #10
                    I did not get the Z51 package - coming from a V12S Aston Martin - the non-Z51 seems to 'float' too much - still trying to get used to it at 800 miles in. If your used to a tight sports car please order the Z-51 with Mag shocks, because the standard suspension is bothersome. I'm starting to get used to it, but I thought at 68 years old, I should get a softer suspension - I was wrong. If you are coming into a C8 from something that's not Porsche or Aston Martin Vantage feel, then you should not notice it. Just my opinion.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think there is an option, You get it....In the big picture, You will be happier that you got it than if you saved $5K. I opted out on the Mag ride...saved $1495....I wish I had the mag ride. I am on the list for a 2021...I won't make that mistake twice.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Prefurbia View Post
                        I did not get the Z51 package - coming from a V12S Aston Martin - the non-Z51 seems to 'float' too much - still trying to get used to it at 800 miles in. If your used to a tight sports car please order the Z-51 with Mag shocks, because the standard suspension is bothersome. I'm starting to get used to it, but I thought at 68 years old, I should get a softer suspension - I was wrong. If you are coming into a C8 from something that's not Porsche or Aston Martin Vantage feel, then you should not notice it. Just my opinion.
                        I came off of an 2012 XKR with the 5.0 L SC 510 HP. Had a dynamic ride suspension which was firm in Dyn. mode and a slight bit softer in normal mode. I will be interested to compare the differences after I get my C8 with the Z package and mag suspension. My track days are over but I still enjoy the back roads of the north east. Enjoy the ride

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                        • #13
                          Get the Z. I got it for the FE4, but now they are offered stand alone. I still like the bigger brakes and cooling even if I track it 1-2 times per year GMs power train covers it. Z51 w/fe4 and at least 2LT is best deal imo. Only live once enjoy it!

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                          • #14
                            This question has been discussed in literally thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of posts across the virtual universe. I, personally, don't think the Z51 package is worth it for me. But a couple of questions regarding "Will I track it? Yes, at least a couple times to feel the exhilaration, but don’t need the Z pkg track it right."

                            That all depends on what you mean by tracking it. If you mean a few fast paced laps at someplace like the NCM track, then I agree with you. If you mean actual competition, then no - you absolutely need Z51.

                            The in-between is HPDE days, and for that I'd say "it depends." How fast a driver are you, and how hard are you willing to push your car? If your skill level is fairly high, and you're going to push it to the limits of your skill, running the engine to red line, carrying speed deep into the corner and braking as hard as necessary, etc. I would urge you to get the Z51. If you'll do a few laps, and then rest and let everything cool down before you go out again, the base is probably fine. If you're going to spend as much time as possible, all day long on the track, get the Z for the peace of mind.

                            One very important thing to remember: Only the Z51 is warranted for track use. If you're really working the car hard, and something breaks, you'll be glad of the warranty coverage:

                            https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...blows-at-track
                            SunKissed, my 2015 2LT, 7MT, Black over Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic, Stingray convertible (One of about 40)

                            Purchased 5/2/2015,
                            >36,000 miles

                            Proud member of the Old Dominion Corvette Club. Check us out http://www.olddominioncorvetteclub.org

                            Never grow up - It's a trap.

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                            • #15
                              My take on the track warranty is I don't plan on taking it to the track for at least a year and it will be my daily driver. By the time I do take it, the drivetrain might not even be under warranty anyways. The better cooling and brakes still could help, except this would be my first time going to something bigger than an autocross and I simply wouldn't be pushing it near it's limits.

                              I do plan on getting the performance exhaust either way and simply am waiting to see if I prefer the car with the spoiler or without by viewing in person. In the end, if I prefer it without that would affect my enjoyment of the car more than a few days at the track, which will still be fun even if I have to let the car cool a bit more between the few "hard" laps I'd run (hard from an amateur's standpoint). If I prefer it with the spoiler, I'd likely get the Z51. Either way I'll get mag ride so I don't think the ride quality will be much different, though we have yet to test this assumption.

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