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Corvette Brand Manager, Harlan Charles Talks Everything E-Ray

Corvette Marketing & Brand Manager, Harlan Charles returns to CORVETTE TODAY with your host, Steve Garrett, to talk about the new 2024 Corvette E-Ray. https://youtu.be/3u0WMcgtnWI ; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...GToHlBAjuBPZxz. Harlan gives us an extensive overview is this revolutionary new Corvette and give us insight never heard before about the upcoming E-Ray. www.CorvetteToday.com
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Corvette Today News & Headlines: Late January, 2023

With the announcement of the 2024 Corvette E-Ray, your CORVETTE TODAY host Steve Garrett, and Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger have a lot to tell you about !!! https://youtu.be/734VgDupTBI; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...UAAEX2obMOXMml
Plus, we get a possible glimpse into the Corvette future with Manny Katakis from Muscle Cars & Truck with what the C9 Corvette could look like. Besides the E-Ray, here are some of the other stories Steve and Keith will discuss....
1. Corvette beats the Porsche 911 as Consumer Reports most satisfying car to own.
2. GM delivers over 9,000 Corvettes in the 4th quarter of 2022
3. Corvette Racing debuts the GT3.R on January 27th at the Rolex 24
4. The Mecum Auction at Kissimmee sells the very first Corvette Sting Ray
5. The National Corvette Museum hosts exhibits to celebrate 70 years of Corvette
All the Corvette E-Ray news you want and need plus much more on next week's CORVETTE TODAY News & Headlines show!
Listen to the podcast, watch the YouTube video, join the Facebook group, sign up for email notifications and shop in the Merchandise Store at: www.CorvetteToday.com
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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 Pricing Spreadsheet: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...9Chvp%E2%80%9D
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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Zora’s Electric Hub Motors

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  • Zora’s Electric Hub Motors

    Here is a boost for those of us who are hearing that the 2020 Zora model will not only have 800 HP from a 5.5L, 32V, DOHC, TT, V8, but roughly +200 HP electric motors inside its front wheel hubs.

    Thanks to Autoline, we are learning of a specific, quite possible option to manufacture such motors by a well known automotive supplier, and timing for the 2020 Zora could be just right.

    Please go to 1:15 of this video (through 1:50) for more information on how Linamar is partnering with Protean Electric on this project for electric hub motors.



    Of course, nothing has ever been confirmed that the 2020 Zora will ever exist, let along that it is using electric hub motors. However...


    http://www.autoline.tv/journal/?p=58056
    2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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    Hub motors are ok. But, there is that unsprung weight. For my money, put the motors inboard with halfshafts. Better cooling too.

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    • #3
      Electric hub motors are an interesting possibility, but it brings to mind a number of questions:
      - Increased unsprung mass (!)
      - Elimination of front brake rotors, through the incorporation of regenerative braking?
      - Rotational mass/inertia effects during accel/decel

      I can see this tech possibly working on a minivan, but I do wonder if it's ready for one of the highest performance vehicles in the world...

      We'll know in just a few years (or less).

      My C8:
      '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

      Current Vettes:
      '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
      '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
      '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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      • #4
        I love being on a forum with smart people. Really good points. Thank you.
        2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shrike6 View Post
          Hub motors are ok. But, there is that unsprung weight. For my money, put the motors inboard with halfshafts. Better cooling too.
          I agree with Shrike6 and Mobius I would not be interested in any ME with any electrical drivetrain personally.
          Rocket City Florida - 2013 427 Vert - 2015 ZO6 - 2020 Stingray

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          • #6
            I wouldnt buy an awd electric hub motor c8 with twin turbos for the dohc motor because Im a cheap old ******* and i feel five hundred naturally aspirated ohv powerplants are sufficient for me to have fun.

            meanwhile the ideaof such a hybrid drivetrain is quite fascinating.

            possibly carbon fiber wheels could offset a good portion of the unsprung weight. (Mustang gt350r specs could shed light on how much unsprung weight could be saved)

            the corvette team could also shed as much as 25 lbs going from runflat tires to non runflat...

            combing those two weight saving ideas along with carbon fiber brake rotors could save even more unsprung weight...

            could this negate the added weight of hub electric motors?

            anything is possible but one must wonder at what cost..

            figure top dollar with unbelievable track performances if true.

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            • #7
              Our forum poll for the 2020 entry ME came up with an average 0-60 time of 3.35 seconds. That is extremely fast.

              https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tion-500-hp-me
              Last edited by John; 11-03-2018, 12:04 AM.
              2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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              • #8
                I will never be able to afford Zora, but am intrigued about learning more about the electric hub motors. Whether they are part of Zora, or Chevy pickup or SUV.
                Enjoying my Shadow gray C8. What a car it is.

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                • #9
                  Just for acceleration reference..the porsche 718 s with pdk weighs in at 3159 lbs with 350 hp and accelerates to sixty in 3.6 seconds ..

                  quarter mile in 11.7 @ 117 mph

                  Porsche 911s pdk weighs in at 3363 lbs with 420 hp and accelerates to sixty in 3.1 seconds and the quarter mile 11.4 @ 123 mph.

                  im hopeful the rear mid engine corvette when tested by the same publication with their test procedures will be closer to the 911s with pdk.


                  https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ic-test-review

                  the manufacturers officialacceleration times is probably .4 ths behind so our forums estimation of 3.35 seconds to sixty for a c8 dct from manufacturing testing sounds about right.

                  car and driver tends to be a little quicker ...(maybe their drag strip is Slightly down hill? )
                  Last edited by JB; 11-03-2018, 05:56 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Interestingly enough official porsche acceleration times for the pdk 911s is 6 tenths of a second slower than car and driver testing...


                    https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/9...911-carrera-s/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by John View Post
                      Our forum poll for the 2020 entry ME came up with an average 0-60 time of 3.35 seconds. That is extremely fast.

                      https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tion-500-hp-me
                      Seems a bit optimistic to me, I’m thinking more like 3.5. On topic though I definitely have some interest in an American, V8 car specially a Vette. A lot will depend on the specifics of this though. I like the idea, but execution is different. If they find a way to keep the overall weight under 3700 and remove some of the added unsprung weight it could be great. 0-60 in 2.5!! Heck ya!

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                      • #12
                        With GM’s lightweighting program they have been embracing, I am hoping for an entry weight of 3,320 pounds.

                        https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...weight-will-be

                        One of the best videos I have ever seen (2 minutes long):

                        https://video.marketing.gm.com/10508...-weighting.mp4

                        GM has been able to use it to reduce weight by 40% for a specific part, increase strength 20% in the process, and for at least one component, reduce its number of parts from 8 separate parts to just one.

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                        Last edited by John; 11-03-2018, 02:34 PM.
                        2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                        • #13
                          Now that's fascinating!
                          ZORA patron, Forum Founding Member, Senior Contributor, proud owner of an early 2020 HTC and general nice guy!


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                          • #14

                            Unsprung mass of the motor is not the only problem with hub motors. Just like internal combustion engines, high RPM electric motors have a much higher power to weight ratio than slow turning, high torque motors. EVs typically use gear reduction of roughly 9:1. You could have reduction gears in the hub but that adds a lot of unsprung mass.
                            Last edited by Dimwit; 11-16-2018, 02:00 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for joining us Dimwit. Nice that you are already adding to our knowledge. Thank you very much.
                              2023 Z06: Hypersonic Gray HTC, two tone blue interior, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, and with every visible carbon fiber option order-able including wheels. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 24 year members of National Corvette Museum. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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