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  • The Act of Mid Engine Shifting!

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    I understand that several people are wondering just how the car will find N, D, R and P. I looked extra close at the below image which was taken from one of the cars at the gas station near Nurburgring. It appears that this may be a very small shift lever. it may operate by turning the handle or by pushing on the end of it. We all know that this vehicle is going to be drive by wire so this just may suffice quite nicely for a shift lever. Ala Mercedes! What does it say to others?
    Last edited by ltomn; 10-21-2018, 07:14 PM.
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    6825938A-C28B-46A1-BEC0-A2EE2F45D6D6.jpeg Thank ltomn. No one has noticed or commented on it before. Could well work by exactly what you have suggested, that it both has an inner (pushed in location), a middle location, and pulled out location, and it also rotates.

    The two together could result in many different options for the shifting process. And knowing how GM used dash visuals to give instantaneous info to the driver as to what was engaged or not (such as the gear you being in being in white color when no rev-matching is engaged, but green when it is), it would be logical and expected that what you are doing with rotating and/or pushing in/pulling out that mini-stalk would similarly, be right there in front of the driver.

    Thank you ltomn for calling that to our attention!

    And right an inch or two away, in the yellow highlighted circle) is the vertical up-and-down aluminum gear change lever (which most believe is attached to the steering column).

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    Last edited by John; 10-21-2018, 09:39 PM.
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    • #3
      Anybody remember the column mounted gear selectors of automatic transmissions before the massive move to console mounted automatic transmission gear selectors...i think in the late 1960s and 1970s to imitate the cool factor of a manual transmissions manufacturers put the automatic gear selector in between the two front buckets..

      i remember back in the 1960s most automatic Transmission gear selectors were originally on the column.

      whats old is new again although this time the transmission is a dct.

      the paddles of the dct will probably be the only way to shift the dct manually...no reason to take the drivers hands off the steering wheel.
      Last edited by JB; 10-21-2018, 10:47 PM.

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      • #4
        I agree for “actual forward gear to another forward gear” changes. As for the former, we have the vertical aluminum paddles. As to where/how we shift from neutral to reverse, or reverse to drive, maybe that little stalk?
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        • #5
          Or it could simply be the wiper/washer control.
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          • #6
            Could be, but that would be a change from the C7 (not that that would not be totally possible).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
              Or it could simply be the wiper/washer control.
              That's what I think it is, we only really need buttons for R and to toggle auto manual, could engage drive by pulling the up paddle, engage neutral by pulling both back, then once in N, hit the R button for reverse. Easy.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sigmon View Post

                That's what I think it is, we only really need buttons for R and to toggle auto manual, could engage drive by pulling the up paddle, engage neutral by pulling both back, then once in N, hit the R button for reverse. Easy.
                Egear in Ferrari, Lamborghini and others use this method. Very easy to use. Takes about 2 minutes to be comfortable with this system Click image for larger version

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                • #9
                  it is unfortunate that we have such a pitiful image to try to make this determination from. The angle is immediately staring at the top of the stalk. Perhaps there is someone with another image that could add to it?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Racer86 View Post

                    Egear in Ferrari, Lamborghini and others use this method. Very easy to use. Takes about 2 minutes to be comfortable with this system Click image for larger version

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                    Indeed it does, this is the control system that I'm really hoping the C8 uses, or at the least, can engage neutral from the paddles.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sigmon View Post

                      That's what I think it is, we only really need buttons for R and to toggle auto manual, could engage drive by pulling the up paddle, engage neutral by pulling both back, then once in N, hit the R button for reverse. Easy.
                      Originally posted by Sigmon View Post

                      Indeed it does, this is the control system that I'm really hoping the C8 uses, or at the least, can engage neutral from the paddles.
                      Thank you very, very much Sigmon. Really nice to have your expertise/knowledge to further learn about this discussion.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by John View Post
                        Could be, but that would be a change from the C7 (not that that would not be totally possible).
                        Isn't the wiper stalk on the right side of the steering column on the C7? Which is what I think we're looking at with this pic.

                        But the main reason I don't think it has to do with the transmission is the reports we have that there's a knob on the console to handle changing between Park, Neutral, Manual & Automatic. But since none of us can do more than speculate, heck it could be the control for the HT convertible top.
                        Last edited by meyerweb; 10-22-2018, 03:58 PM.
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                        • #13
                          I'm almost 100% sure that is the washer/wiper. I think our C8 will be more like this:

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                          • #14
                            That is a very attractive LcLaren switch console, but then again what on the inside of a McLaren is not aesthetic perfection! Thanks BJ!
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