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In March of this year, your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, attended the unveiling of the three 1960 Cunningham Corvettes from Le Mans at the Amelia Island Concours. Steve recaps his weekend at Amelia Island and all the events that took place during the show! https://youtu.be/qbRpTBgmINk; https://adori.page.link/?link=https:..._iipp=1&_icp=1
The Cunningham Corvettes were the hit of the entire weekend and you'll hear about the whole story on this episode of CORVETTE TODAY.
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CORVETTE TODAY #163 - Corvette News & Headlines, Late May 2023

Recognizing Memorial Day, there is still a lot of news coming out in the world of Corvette! Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger is back on the show with your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, to detail all the important things happening with America's Sports Car.
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Here are a few of the topics covered by Steve and Keith on this week's show:
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2. We have two new E-Ray videos available
3. New Z06 allocations went out in the middle of this month (May 2023)
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2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

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Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
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  • Front Plate C8 Appearance

    31 of 50 states require a front license plate. Here is a graphic.

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    GM was soundly criticized by many of its C6 customers when they showed up at the dealership after the PDI, seeing the front license plate protruding-outward from the upper part of the front fascia. To say it looked like hell, would be a compliment.

    However, GM totally listened to its customers’ input, and in the C7 came up with an elegant solution for mounting the front plate, both looking nice for the 19 states that do not require one, yet for the 31 states that do so, creating an easily-installable and/or later “removable without visual consequence,” front mounting plate option.

    How the C7 accomplished this was via a front plate license plate mounting system, an “aero cover,” here explained to Keith Cornett of CorvetteBlogger at NAIAS, literally right during 1.13.13 Reveal event, by C7 Chief Exterior Designer Kirk Bennion. Of particular importance in this 2:00 video, is Kirk’s noting first, that the front aero cover for the license plate mounting system is, except for track usage, more efficient than without it, and second, his noting the it attaches/detaches very readily without drilling any holes in the fascia. Good job GM!



    How might the 2020 mid engine Corvette deal with both the 19 states that do not require a front plate, and separately, the 31 states which do — having a functional and reasonably aesthetic solution for both?

    The ME’s front fascia looks like this, with its very noticeable wide open grill (as shown in the following picture taken within BGA by a temporary worker during last fall’s 13 week Plant gut-n-rebuild).

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    Yet, all the ME mules pictures we have been seeing, include what appears to be a massive front center grille insert, probably or partially to accomodate a license plate holder.

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    Which first led fvs to rendering this as how the ME would look like without a front license plate.

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    Without going out on a limb, especially since the four ME’s at the ‘Ring all had the center grille insert, is that for most, and maybe all, 2020 Corvette track applications, the front plate insert mounting system is designed to not impede air flow, to not interfere with necessary vehicle cooling.

    Predicting further, consistent with the 2014 Stingray’s and later CD7’s, the front aero plate mounting system will not be factory installed, but shipped in the trunk for PDI or later customer chosen usage (or not).

    And consequently, for those in the 31 states, fvs created the following rendering to help us conceptualize how this would look. Thank you very much fvs!

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    Last edited by John; 10-03-2018, 05:14 PM.
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    Looks good for those of us in states that require a front plate

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    • #3
      Was going to work the other day and got pulled over. I said why, police officer said no front plates I was huh that is a law he said yes but no fine have a good day. Texas is my home and I am NOT putting front plates on my vehicles I will move first.
      Last edited by Fasttoys; 10-03-2018, 07:04 PM.

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      • #4
        It is a hit and miss thing with most law enforcement, e.g., some local LEO’s I know of, seem to enforce this law a lot, others if are driving safety and sanely, never pull you over. I have friends who choose to take a chance without having one, seem to be just fine without it; yet other friends have not just been pulled over, but ticketed for 2nd offense without one.

        I will probably find the most unobtrusive way of mounting my plate as low as I can on my ME, as I have done on my current car.

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        • #5
          I've been running without a front plate since April. It's on a removable mount in the trunk, so if I get stopped I'll say "Dang, I'm sorry. I took it off for a car show on Sunday and plumb forgot to put it back on. I'll do that right now, officer! Thank you for pointing it out!"
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          • #6
            As noted above, GM listened to a lot of us unhappy folks with the C6’s plate location. Someone I know went to buy a used one, but when he saw the holes in the front fascia where a plate once had been, he backed out.

            The C7’s front plate location was a huge improvement. Looking lke FVS nailed it again.

            The C8’s location will be just fine, and as I live in a two plate state, I will put a front one in that location instead of playing roulette and taking my chances of not having one.
            Enjoying my Shadow gray C8. What a car it is.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
              I've been running without a front plate since April. It's on a removable mount in the trunk, so if I get stopped I'll say "Dang, I'm sorry. I took it off for a car show on Sunday and plumb forgot to put it back on. I'll do that right now, officer! Thank you for pointing it out!"
              I have several friends who are LEO’s, and they are not looking for innocents, but going after those who are stupid and who put the rest of us at risk. In my home town with its 20/25/30 MPH speed limits, I do maybe two MPH over.

              Not going to comment on my speed when I am on an isolated country road that I know really well, but it would be a safe bet to say that I exceed two over.
              2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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              • #8
                The C7 front plate was a nice design, Some states also have a license plate height requirement so there also was a second front plate bracket that came above the nose.

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                Talk about a booger on a super model's nose! Here in Wisconsin we have that requirement and my C7 came with both brackets. Naturally, I thumbed my nose at the law and installed neither.

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                • #9
                  I had forgotten about that upper bracket. Yes, that was/is ugly — a lot like a C6 one.

                  I wonder how many who installed their front plates at the wrong (too low) height, yet drove reasonably under all circumstances ever got stopped by a LEO. I doubt more than a rare person or two.

                  It’s like the proverbial urban legend that red cars and yellow cars get more tickets. Well for sure they do if the drivers are driving recklessly. I have not gotten one ticket in 20 years in my red and yellow Corvettes. Having driven for 2,000,000 miles overall in all my vehicles, I use common sense the last three decades (something I lacked for my first two decades of driving — and gee no surprise, I got more than an isolated ticket when i was young and dumb, and deserved everyone I got then.

                  Act like and ***, jeopardize others’ safety, and your plate height becomes a good precipitation to be stopped. Drive sensibly and I doubt it is an issue.
                  2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                  • #10
                    As it typical of most vehicle renderings and pictures, we are seeing the car from the height of roughly 2’ above the pavement, e.g., above the height of the plate’s center, yet still 3’ below our average “height of our eyes.”

                    If we were standing next to the car, the license plate would be approximately 3 1/2’ below our eyes, so in normal life we are looking much further downward toward the plate, and the plate would be far less intrusive looking to us normally than in the above picture.
                    2023 Z06: Elkhart Lake Blue, 2-tone blue interior, HTC, Standard Z06 with Z07 aero pkg, CCB’s, 3LZ, E60, every visible carbon fiber option including wheels, Jake Design Pkg. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 25 year NCM members. Home is the beautiful Pacific Northwest.

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                    • #11
                      We live in Texas and have NEVER put a front license plate on any car..... EVER. That will NOT change.
                      2020 HTC Torch Red with lots of goodies. Built in September. Museum Delivered in October......

                      Other toys in the garage: Ferrari California, BMW i8 Roadster, Bentley Flying Spur, Chevy SSr

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
                        I've been running without a front plate since April. It's on a removable mount in the trunk, so if I get stopped I'll say "Dang, I'm sorry. I took it off for a car show on Sunday and plumb forgot to put it back on. I'll do that right now, officer! Thank you for pointing it out!"
                        This is my current strategy.

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                        • #13
                          The plan right now is to keep the plate in the "trunk" unless something changes (tickets)
                          . Never say Never ... LoL
                          ?? Thank you for your service JDMilm ??
                          2022, 2LT Elkhart Blue ..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fasttoys View Post
                            Was going to work the other day and got pulled over. I said why, police officer said no front plates I was huh that is a law he said yes but no fine have a good day. Texas is my home and I am NOT putting front plates on my vehicles I will move first.
                            I do not have my plate on either BUT it is the law and you got lucky there is a fine now.

                            https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watc...ace-a-200-fine

                            Have some friends who are LEO and this has ALWAYS been an excuse to pull someone over now it is a an actual fine. Kind of funny some write the ticket, others will let you off with a warning the first time and another one but he is a Captain said he has better things to do. What brought this up is my car was parked next to theirs one morning and they kidded me about it...….

                            Personally would have the plate on but it blocks air flow. Have always put the plates on because when I was a younger man got pulled over at 2am because of it...…
                            Last edited by Busa Dave; 10-04-2018, 09:55 AM.

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                            • #15
                              South Dakota now has a special interest rear plate only offering, the only caveat is that the car is driven 6000 miles or less a year...
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