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  • Prefer 2020 With A Spoiler

    Of course we do not know whether the 2020 entry ME would have a non-spoiler version, but harking back to 2014, the C7 came that way without one (just its tiny, center area only, duckbill uplift due to its HTMSL), and of course for $5K more, separately offered a spoilered Z-51 version. My guess, and it is strictly that, is that we will again have two 2020 versions, if nothing else for the overriding consideration that GM is wanting to have as low a price entry point for the ME, and thus will not include higher performance/higher cost components in the entry version — saving those components for option package that first year.

    Re the C7, we have three good friends who chose a Stingray without a spoiler. Candidly, while my wife and I we were on the other end of the spectrum by adding a center wickerbill to our stage 2 Z06, yet from an aesthetic point of view, both my gearhead wife and I prefer looking at the rear quarter of the non-spoilered version. Without the spoiler, it looks sleeker and more artistically refined IOO.

    We hope that just like the C7 Stingray, the entry 2020 mid engine C8 offers both an entry, flat-decked version, and, a higher perf 2020 spoilered version — most probably with the same spoiler that we saw at Nurburgring:

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    We do not have any information as to whether GM chooses to retain any of the C7’s names for the ME. They could for example, call the entry C8 version a “Manta Ray,” and then have an option for the Manta be instead of a “Z-51” package, be called a “Zora“ option, a Z-79 option or whatever. Hence, we will call one an “entry version,” the other a “spoilered version.”

    While I prefer the renderings of fvs to all others, and while his are the most accurate IMO, below is an interesting comparison of what the ME would like look with or without a spoiler. Major credit to the renderer Kool K Sung Studio in Korea. Good looking car! Thank you RedDropTop for first finding post the immediately-below rendering, and thank you also to VETTE-NV for showing us a second version of that same car without any rear deck spoiler.

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    Now zeroing on the main focus of this thread, those who are getting a 2020+ entry level ME, assuming that you only have one OEM choice as shown abov3, would you choose to get it with or without its higher-performance spoiler (again assuming Corvette were to offer both versions).

    True, giving up the spoiler, if I remember correctly the exact testing numbers, reduced the Stingray’s cornering capability from 1.06G in the spoilered Z-51 version to “just” (LOL) 1.01G in the entry version, but do we need more than 1.01G when driving on the street? Even when I was driving spiritedly on an isolated back roads, just once on a hot summer day in the middle of nowhere, did I hit ever achieve as high as .98G on a public road.

    As we do not plan on tracking our ME, my wife and I will not need, nor get, the spoilered 2020 ME.

    I am guessing that those of you who track your cars, would want a spoilered version. Good for you.

    What about you? How will you order with your entry ME — with or without a spoiler?

    Or, if GM does not offer any other version of the spoilered version other than picture. above, might you contact ACS Composite or some other quality aftermarket provider and look at their expected spoiler options?
    Last edited by John; 10-01-2018, 11:16 AM.
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    If it is an option, I guess I will have to order it . Depending on how it is made, and how well it might work, we may add a wicker bill to it. Very effective way to add downforce with a very small addition.
    wickerbill, also called a Gurney lip
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    • #3
      If the spoiler was functional, I would have it. If it's just "bling", then I would reconsider. Yes, I will track the car. I hate to say it John, but the mid-engine car should be tracked to fully appreciate its mid-engine engineering! I'm not as serious about tracking any car as I once was. However, adding Z51 typical options to the C8 should add to the cars handling and stopping performance and that's what excites me about any vehicle that might have the "sports car" moniker attached to it.
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      • #4
        I like the spoiler that my 2014 Z51 roaster has. I'm not a fan of the raised center section with the third brake light on the C7. The non spoiler rear looks ok with the coupe as the roof-line ties into it, but the roadster needed that spoiler to look finished to me. I'm not a fan of the spoiler we are seeing on the C8, but it might look better when the camo comes off. It really comes down to personal preference and looks for me, since it will be my daily driver and not tracked much if at all.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by whl3 View Post
          If the spoiler was functional, I would have it. If it's just "bling", then I would reconsider. Yes, I will track the car. I hate to say it John, but the mid-engine car should be tracked to fully appreciate its mid-engine engineering! I'm not as serious about tracking any car as I once was. However, adding Z51 typical options to the C8 should add to the cars handling and stopping performance and that's what excites me about any vehicle that might have the "sports car" moniker attached to it.
          I will be driving a ME at Spring Mountain, specifically to learn how a ME handles differently. And of course, for fun! At the same time, I am so fortunate to live in the middle of nowhere, and have some nice “curvy, country, Corvette cornering roads” around me. We also take long roads trips planned specifically with “scenic roads” as our focus. Lots of open spaces in the Pacific Northwest and the U.S. and Canadian Rocky Mountains to love the scenery and love the driving on.

          As you whl3 and bobbytinvab both properly noted, we need to see the spoiler without any camo on it before we make a final decision.
          Last edited by John; 10-01-2018, 02:56 PM.
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          • #6
            I'm one of those who prefer the look of the C7 without a spoiler. Especially the coupe. The dynamic roofline of the coupe integrates perfectly into the duckbill CHMSL, flowing in a clean line right to the back of the car. The rear spoiler breaks that line. I ordered mine without the Z51 package, but the spoiler was only part of the reason, and probably no the major part.

            As for the ME, time will tell. Until I see the backend of the real car, I can't begin to guess whether it will look better with or without a spoiler. The C7 was clearly design without one, and the spoiler is clearly an added-on piece. If the ME is designed with an integrated spoiler, it might look funny without one.
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            • #7
              I would have to order the heavy duty suspemsion, heavy duty cooler option no matter what .

              hopefully the spoilers could be deleted but if not Id order with the rear spoiler.

              im a firm believer in the heavy duty cooling and suspension packages over the years.

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              • #8
                I would have to see the final spoiler configuration. Also, since I'm no longer interested in tracking the car, I would have to see how it looks when included in a full view of the production rear end styling. I would lean toward a more modest C7 Z51 style spoiler (as in the camp photos) if I think it fits from a design standpoint.
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                • #9
                  Thanks George. Many are with you on that.

                  One thing we are unanimous on, we want to see the car now — and of course see how the spoiler looks in its final version.
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                  • #10
                    In the above renders I like the one with spoiler better. I’ll have to see the real thing to decide.
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