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What We Want In C8 Seats

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    I found the C7’s seats really good. Not perfect, but even on our 600+ mile days, our backs feel good at the end of the day (not bad considering my wife and I were both 67 when we started owning our C7).

    Before we look forward to the C8 seats, let’s look back at the historical and major improvements from the C6 seats to the C7’s; what was great about the C7’s seats and/or had improved from the C6’s; and, what some wished were even better addressed with the C7’s seats.

    History:

    The C7’s seats can best be summarized by a Car and Driver article and a separate video:

    Originally posted by caranddriver
    Prime Cuts: Slicing Open Corvette C7 and C6 Seats Reveals Big Improvements Our blades tell the tale.

    OCTOBER 2013 BY ERIC TINGWALL MULTIPLE PHOTOGRAPHERS

    From the October 2013 Issue of Car and Driver

    At the introduction of the new Corvette Stingray, Chevrolet engineers crowed that the C7’s thrones come from the same supplier used by Porsche. True, but that manufacturer, Lear, also produced the C6’s soft, floppy seats. Now that we’ve spent some time in the Stingray, we can say that the C7’s chairs have more in common with a Porsche’s than with any previous Corvette’s. We contend that it doesn’t matter who built them, but rather how they’re made. To find out what distinguishes the new Corvette buckets from the old, we sliced into each with a scalpel, some fabric scissors, and a bread knife.
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    The C6 seats were poor, and compared to them, the C7’s were vastly improved — including a shift from the C6 offering only one seat option, to the C7’s offering both a GT and a Comp seat.

    However, and we know GM has been paying attention to this repeated seat feedback ever since early in the C7’s 2014 debut, there were the following issues that some C7 owners experienced:

    * Offered in the 2/3 level interiors, the seat heaters take too long to heat up, and even after a long time, the heating capability was/is marginal;
    * Also offered in the 2/3 level interiors only, the seats were never cooled per see, though with their three small fans, they blow cabin air temperature through both the seat bottom and the seat back. Many wished for true cooling as in their other GM, and in their other brand vehicles — though of course that would have been at a major weight penalty, and already each of the C7’s seats each weighed 9 pounds more than the C6’s;
    * Even with the Comp Seats, some track aficionados, but especially true racers, felt that the side bolstering was insufficient;
    * Conversely for some who ordered the Comp Seats, while all loved their gorgeous visible carbon fiber bow ties, they felt that seat-back side bolsters were too narrow, too confining, especially in the shoulder area even at their widest extension (but try and reconcile that with the opposite feelings of many track racers noted immediately above);
    * Some felt that the Comp Seats bottom padding was too firm — but then again for track use, to prevent submarining under high G loads, firm padding was/is needed;
    * More than a few larger/muscle-ly folks felt that the side bolsters on the seat-bottoms on both the GT and the Comp seats were too narrow/confining.

    Putting all those comments and earlier facts above into perspective, the C7 seats were a massive improvement over the C6’s, and while some of the above criticisms were valid for some individuals with their unique body proportions, many were/are very pleased with their C7 seats.

    C8 Seats: What Do We Know?

    Close to nothing. We only know that GM listens, and balancing feedback of some C7 users with cost and weight factors, they will try and improve the C7 seats within those realistic, yet confining parameters, making the C8 seats better.

    We can conjecture that since the C7 had two different seats, and even at $2K the Comp Seats’ take rate was greater than GM originally projected, that it is likely we will see two different seat options for the C8. Just do not think GM will go backwards to only offer one seat for the ME, for among customer satisfaction issues and profit issues, GM needs to project the like most exotics, that they are giving us two different seat options.

    Further predicting, it is likely that just as GM offered a 1LT seat with fewer adjustments, and without seat ventilation and seat heating, it is again likely that the ME will offer both a entry 1LT seat and a more advanced, 2/3 LT seat with those and perhaps other enhancements.

    For those who did not take the time to view the above video, I encourage you to double back and to view it.
    Last edited by John; 09-29-2018, 04:08 PM.
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    A trip down C7 memory lane, gearing us up for what we are going to need to learn if custom ordering our C8. The Bash will again be super helpful for those ordering their C8’s probably within the next month or two after that event. I know I am going specifically to learn more before I order.
    Enjoying my Shadow gray C8. What a car it is.

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    • #3
      I thought the c7 seats were great esp3cially compared to the horrible c6 seats.

      i fully expect the c7 seat to be even better from a ride control and comfort perspective.

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      • #4
        Personally, I wish they would dump Lear (never going to happen; they have been the supplier since the C4) and move to Recaro (who used to make many Porsche seats and have an existing relationship with GM dating back to at least the 1982 Recaro Trans Am). Have always been a fan of Recaro seats ... they usually demonstrate you do not need monstrous bolsters to hold you in place and are (to me) a lot more comfortable (if a bit firm for most folks). That said, the C6 seats were marginally better than the C5 and the C7 seats were a lot better (but still not good, to me) than the C6. So maybe GM/Lear are learning.

        All that said, I hope they keep a two-tone option (black and xxx color, in my case dark tan or medium brown).

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        • #5
          Good analysis 07MontyRed. GM was with Goodyear for many, many decades, then switched to Michelin tires, so maybe?
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          • #6
            The C7 seats are close to the most comfortable seats I've had in any car. For me, the side bolsters are fine, but I can see that for wider drivers they're kind of narrow, so adjustable bolsters in the seat bottom, as well as seat back, would be a great feature.

            I find the seat heaters to be acceptable with the microsuede upholstery, which seems to allow more heat transfer than the leather does.

            But I'd definitely like to see better seat cooling. Driving top down in 90F temps you don't even realize the fans are on. Real seat cooling would be great, but I understand if GM doesn't like the weight penalty. From the videos I've seen, I think the seat heater design interferes with air flow from the fans, so either redesign the heaters to allow more airflow, or up the power of those fans by a lot. Or both.

            Oh and I'd like the seats in the vert to allow more vertical adjustment than in the C7 vert, which has about 1 1/2" less vertical reach than the coupe.

            What did I think was more comfortable than the C7? A Ford with seats that were a copy of Recaro buckets, and had adjustable thigh support as well as adjustable bolsters in the back and the bottom cushions.
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            • #7
              Very precise analysis. Thank you meyerweb.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 07MontyRed View Post
                Personally, I wish they would dump Lear (never going to happen; they have been the supplier since the C4) and move to Recaro (who used to make many Porsche seats and have an existing relationship with GM dating back to at least the 1982 Recaro Trans Am). Have always been a fan of Recaro seats ... they usually demonstrate you do not need monstrous bolsters to hold you in place and are (to me) a lot more comfortable (if a bit firm for most folks). That said, the C6 seats were marginally better than the C5 and the C7 seats were a lot better (but still not good, to me) than the C6. So maybe GM/Lear are learning.

                All that said, I hope they keep a two-tone option (black and xxx color, in my case dark tan or medium brown).
                Everyone is different but I like our C5 seats much better that I liked our C6. Yes the C7 are the best to me of the three.
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                • #9
                  WE have an AMG with 'active seating'..... When you go around a corner the seat bolsters quickly inflate and deflate on the appropriate side to hold you in a firm upright driving position. It's separately programable for intensity and driver and / or passenger. I always thought it would be neat to have that in the Corvette. Perhaps on the C8 it will be an available option....
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                  • #10
                    What We Want In C8 Seats

                    Comfort and class!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Plasboy View Post

                      Everyone is different but I like our C5 seats much better that I liked our C6. Yes the C7 are the best to me of the three.
                      We are with you. We felt better after a 12 hour road trip day in our C5 than in our C6, and yes, the C7 seats are best of all.
                      Last edited by John; 09-30-2018, 10:41 AM.
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                      • #12
                        With the C7 being the only Corvette I've road in over the last 30 years & compared to all my other cars, these are the best seats I have ever drove/ rode in . Maybe someday I'll drive/ride in a vehicle with better seats "but" I of now I think they're GREAT ! Scott
                        A thought if I might ...

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                        • #13
                          I would imagine that Lear is also the manufacturer of Cadillac seats. I still find it hard to believe that I was in a Cadillac showroom last year but I was! I'm not sure what model Cadillac it was but the front (bucket) seats looked very familiar. On further inspection, the lower "seat" portion of the seat looked very similar in design to BMW (bucket) seats. It was more "squared off" or rectangular than the "radiused" seat bottom of either the GT or Competition C7 seats. A casual quick sit in the Cadillac seat, seemed to feel more comfortable than did my Competition C7 seat. It also seemed to offer more bolster. That seat design, IMO, is also more attractive. I mentioned this to Ryan Vaughan at either this year's or last year's BASH.

                          I also like Recaro seats but there is no reason that Lear can't make a comfortable and well bolstered seat within Chevrolet's budget constraints. They made a quantum leap in the C7 seat construction and comfort over the previous C5 and C6 seats. Let's hope they can do the same with the C8 without adding weight!
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                          • #14
                            I want AMG grade leather. The cheap GM stuff is just unacceptable to me.

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                            • #15
                              Two options Sports seat with aggressive bolsters and touring for comfort.

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