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  • C8 side air intake true form

    Disclaimer: I'm an amateur with regards to image manipulation, so please excuse the low quality of these edits.

    After staring at various images and videos from Nürburgring and ZERV's "underside" CAD drawing, here's what I think the side intake might actually look like without the camouflage. I think it follows the theme being implemented on the headlights, taillights, rear quarter window, etc.. Let me know your thoughts.






    Last edited by Manta Ray; 09-22-2018, 08:07 PM.
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    You could be right. But your version goes back pretty far toward the wheel well. On the CAD, you can see that the actual intake port is just behind the door so if the exposed V-shaped skin goes beyond the intake there would be no funneling effect and it would not be a scoop! :-)

    I think the c8r version is probably closer to reality than we all think. Anything is possible and various shapes could work as they do on other super cars.
    Your idea, to Mayeye, could possibly work if it ends at the door bumper out and does not go all the way down to the sill. The shape would be more like the LaFerrari.

    whatever shape it finally ends up, it does have to work with the rest of the styling of the car so your assumption of mimicking the headlights and taillights is a good one.


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      This is, to me, the best C8.R side view picture we currently have.

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      Last edited by John; 09-22-2018, 05:26 PM.
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        Originally posted by Manta Ray View Post
        Disclaimer: I'm an amateur with regards to image manipulation, so please excuse the low quality of these edits.

        After staring at various images and videos from Nürburgring and ZERV's "underside" CAD drawing, here's what I think the side intake might actually look like without the camouflage. I think it follows the theme being implemented on the headlights, taillights, rear quarter window, etc.. Let me know your thoughts.





        The ME prototype doors show a verticle hump running the length of the lower part of the doors and visually into the side intake. That feature appears not to conform to any apparent function and is visual nonsense. It is probably not a part of the true design.
        Last edited by SheepDog; 09-24-2018, 10:50 AM.

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          Might GM be doing some deliberate misdirection LOL?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SheepDog View Post

            The ME prototype doors show a verticle hump running the length of the doors and visually into the side intake. That feature appears not to conform to any function and is visual nonsense. It is probably not a part of the design.
            The longitudinal hump does serve a purpose/function and its on the ZR1 as well.

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              I agree, the horizontal ridge serves as the floor lead-in to the scoop just as on the LaFerrari and other cars...

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                IMO, the scoop opening can not go back as far as suggested simply because it would expose the actual inlet and defeat the purpose of the funneling "scoop". It would simply be an opening.

                Note the position of the "inlet" in the 3d CAD. I sized it and positioned it according to the wheel well and door jam opening.

                This is a slightly better adjusted side view as well.

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                  Originally posted by fvs View Post
                  I agree, the horizontal ridge serves as the floor lead-in to the scoop just as on the LaFerrari and other cars...

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                  I agree 100% with your opinion. I agree with that being the case with the Ferrari. On the Ferrari it makes visual sense; It serves as a ledge on the Ferrari, which ledge keeps its form and depth to the bottom of the door. But on the ME prototypes, the hump is just a hump that goes up to a max and sharply falls to the start point. After it peaks it tapers back down to point zero at the bottom of the door. Looks to me. I am relying on the black and white leopard spot photos, not the wonderful and skillful renderings. The renderings tend to generalize the feature in the effort to create a sense of it.. On the prototype is it not just a hump for the sake of being a hump? There may be a lead that is obscured by the "hump". But I hear and appreciate your informed view.

                  It looks awkward. I believe they would not ugly it up like that.
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                    I understand what you’re saying. There is a bit of ambiguity in the camo images for sure we don’t know exactly how they will resolve all of those converging points. The only thing I can point to is the c8R Where are you can sort of see how the ridge guides the air to the scoop final. On that car, it seems like below the ridge there is an additional opening at the door sill that may be for brake cooling. you can sort of see how the ridge guides the air to the scoop. On that car, it seems like below the ridge there is an additional opening at the door sill that may be for brake cooling.


                    In the CAD image there seems to be a split in the inlet with two defined openings leading to different ducting. Will be very interested in seeing how that all works out. In the CAD image there seems to be a split in the inlet with two defined openings leading to different ducting. Will be very interested in seeing how that all works out
                    Not sure what happened to my overlay image but I will repost shortly.
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                    • #11
                      I agree with you that they will not leave it looking ugly. My interpretation is just based on the Camo and I witness accounts. I don’t want to add into the mix with my speculation but I am sure it will be beautifully executed and make sense with the design overall

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                        In the CAD image there seems to be a split in the inlet with two defined openings leading to different ducting. Will be very interested in seeing how that all works out. In the CAD image there seems to be a split in the inlet with two defined openings leading to different ducting. Will be very interested in seeing how that all works out
                        Not sure what happened to my overlay image but I will repost shortly.[/QUOTE]

                        I am by silence reminded that if this thing turns out to be the top dog reliability and handling rocket, then whatever it looks like will set a standard for looks.

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                          If you study the mules that drove around with the black tarps, the OP could very well be correct about that general shape. I agree with the OP here. This is the shape under the black tarp mules, IMO. I firmly believe the C8R intake design is intended to throw us off. No way they are going to just show us the intake design on the C8R. The side intake design is the most important aspect of the design...so yeah, GM is not going to just show it to us on the C8R. It’s fake on the C8R just as it is fake on the white C8 camo car.

                          Mike G37 from that “other forum” created the below picture. I believe mike is spot on.
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                          With respect to the intake shape, the black tarp mules are more telling than the recent white camo cars, IMO.
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                            Originally posted by PaulChristian View Post
                            If you study the mules that drove around with the black tarps, the OP could very well be correct about that general shape. I agree with the OP here. This is the shape under the black tarp mules, IMO. I firmly believe the C8R intake design is intended to throw us off. No way they are going to just show us the intake design on the C8R. The side intake design is the most important aspect of the design...so yeah, GM is not going to just show it to us on the C8R. It’s fake on the C8R just as it is fake on the white C8 camo car.

                            Mike G37 from that “other forum” created the below picture. I believe mike is spot on.
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                            With respect to the intake shape, the black tarp mules are more telling than the recent white camo cars, IMO.
                            Yes on that. Think u r right. They are not ready to give it up yet. The elegance of the car is is in the waist and hips

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                            • #15
                              What you are showing is very close to the rendering and C8R. It is not drastically different. Potatoes potatoes.

                              I feel the final execution will will be refined and have subtle details that unite the design but the scoop can not go so far back as to expose the inlet from the side unless it is covered by a secondary trim piece.
                              Last edited by fvs; 09-24-2018, 04:48 PM.

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