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  • Murray20c8
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    This thread is morphing a bit, but I don't mind getting gas as long as I don't have to line up. We have stations with cheaper gas but there are always lineups and it can get ugly when someone buts in. We (in Canada) have "Canadian Tire stores" that sell gas. They give you about 3 cents per litre back in store credits on fuel ups. Canadian tire stores are a staple in Canada so it's a no brainer to go there and almost never line up.

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  • LightningBolt
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    Originally posted by JB View Post

    Funny how we end up with that job....an electric ev plug in would resolve that issue of having to fill up
    My wife hates to get gas... I used to keep a 5gal can of fuel at the house for emergencies. I stopped when my wife was becoming reliant on it and having an “emergency” every week.

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  • JB
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    Such is life in NJ...i pump my own gas quite often to help the pump jockeys out when its busy...

    against the law but nobody cares...

    New Jersey is one of the few states mandating full service stations...

    even still many wives and loved ones dont like to even have to spend their time getting gas...

    some of the divorced girls at the gym (in spin classes)have a running effort to eek out the last drop of gas in the cars tank to minimize the number of times they have to go to the gas stations...

    i kid you not(not brain surgeons but they are hot looking so....)

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  • Milliwatt Rob
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    I recently returned from two weeks in New Jersey. It felt like a month.

    Having to deal with those pump jockeys is a major annoyance. Too many pumps for too few jockeys. So after the nozzle clicks off, you have to wait more minutes for the jockey to return. And if you have some kind of discount program card, you will accrue points, but the jockey is too busy to redeem points for your current fill up.

    Filling your fuel tank is one place where I would much rather do it myself. I can imagine some enterprising NJ legislator is going to introduce a bill to prohibit self service EV recharging. After all, there could be 480 volts or more in that recharging wire, with mere citizens fiddling with adapters. Safety first!!

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  • JB
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    Originally posted by jack1954 View Post
    I don't own a electric car and like many people they really don't ring my bell but for my wife I think one would be great, its 20 miles to a large city from our place in the country to buy grocery's and and shop she does this trip many times a week doing her yoga and shopping, thats 40 plus miles every trip which adds up to $40-50 per week ($2.26 gallon) at the pump and mileage added to her car. Plus she leave all the cars empty for me to fill up, she would however plug one in I think....
    Funny how we end up with that job....an electric ev plug in would resolve that issue of having to fill up.

    and NJ only has full service gas stations...its not like the girls in NJ even have to get out of the car...

    i think its one of the few states that outlawed self service gas stations.

    Makes hot rod EV small or medium sport cuv a slightly more promising proposition for us guys who do the fillups for our phillys..

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  • LightningBolt
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    I can’t justify buying a car to save money on fuel as I just don’t drive enough, but I would really like to have a Tesla in our garage. My company has EV chargers installed that are free to use. My commute is 10 miles so I tend to ride my bike a lot instead.

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  • jack1954
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    I don't own a electric car and like many people they really don't ring my bell but for my wife I think one would be great, its 20 miles to a large city from our place in the country to buy grocery's and and shop she does this trip many times a week doing her yoga and shopping, thats 40 plus miles every trip which adds up to $40-50 per week ($2.26 gallon) at the pump and mileage added to her car. Plus she leave all the cars empty for me to fill up, she would however plug one in I think....
    Last edited by jack1954; 12-04-2019, 06:38 AM.

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  • LightningBolt
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    Originally posted by jack1954 View Post
    The electric car industry needs to have a universal battery that can be used in any model or make of electric car. If this was possible then all a electric car had to do is pull into a electric filling station and swap the battery.
    i think there is a lot of standardization that needs to occur in the EV market. Batteries, plugs even induction chargers in the road was mentioned. The current state of the EV market reminds me of where we were in the computer industry in the 80s. Computers were largely incompatible outside their own brands, and you didn’t have networks and standards to exchange data. That has evolved with the help of IEEE standards in computing as it will for the EV industry.

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  • Milliwatt Rob
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    How long would it take to swap a battery, compared to recharging from a 480 volt supply? I doubt it would save that much time, and would require standardization of batteries. I don't think a Tesla S Ludicrous owner would want a battery for a Nissan Leaf

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  • Frenzy36
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    Originally posted by Mobius View Post

    While not universal, Tesla was promoting battery swapping stations back as early as 2013. https://www.tesla.com/videos/battery-swap-event
    I feel the problem with that would be similar to the propane tank exchanges. I have received many bad ones which the valves go bad and they are useless. With the battery pack swaps would be involved because of the weight and location of the packs in different models. Once a pack becomes degraded the company would be stuck with the expense of refurbishing (which they haven't really figured out yet as it's extremely costly) or they would be responsible to replace it. Again there are a lot of obstacles and hurdles for the electric vehicle industry to figure out.

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  • Mobius
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    Originally posted by jack1954 View Post
    The electric car industry needs to have a universal battery that can be used in any model or make of electric car. If this was possible then all a electric car had to do is pull into a electric filling station and swap the battery which could be done by some machine and take off.
    While not universal, Tesla was promoting battery swapping stations back as early as 2013. https://www.tesla.com/videos/battery-swap-event

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  • jack1954
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    The electric car industry needs to have a universal battery that can be used in any model or make of electric car. If this was possible then all a electric car had to do is pull into a electric filling station and swap the battery which could be done by some machine and take off. All the batteries that have been discharged could go into a charging area then when charged it goes into the next car at the pump or electric socket whatever. Its going to take a lot of thought and agreement on the auto industry to make electric cars functional for long trips.

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  • dcbingaman
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    Induction chargers under the road make a LOT more sense than superchargers or "pantographs" like freaking bumper cars use. We need to replace lots of roads - why not put induction chargers into all of them. That would solve the EV battery problem. Either that or go to H2 - O2 fuel cells. The Apollo astronauts went only 250,000 miles on a couple of those, (although Apollo 13 had a a little problem with theirs, LOL !)

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  • JB
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    Its not going to be one answer for every application.

    i think we will find mixed use..

    your are correct that our state governements could turn off the juice for a week at a time and we couldn't charge up or power our cars.

    i live in the NY tristate area and I remember we had a hurricane a few years back...the gas stations had no power to pump gas and even then the floods made all the gas in the tanks bad so we only had regular ...when the power came back on. And we had to wait until the bad gas that was ruined had to pulled out and then new gas added....

    i think the rain water , the sewers etc flooded the streets and even went into the underground gasstation tanks.

    i remember having to fill my corvette with a few tanks of regular gas after waiting in line once the power came back a few days after the storm...the new gas was delivered etc..it was a mess.

    i remember laughing saying if I had gotten my wife an electric car i could have potentially powered the house from the cars battery.(powering a house with electricity was minimal in consumption versus moving a car so that lithion ion battery would have done well.....i think at that time the chevy volt was a generator gas motor and that combined could have powered the frig ...

    that would ge kind of cool ...to have electricity to the house from the car...

    im totally with those that prefer gas powered sports car and even family transport.

    happens my better half literally is one of those who drives about 7k miles a year and at most 40 miles per day tops...

    because we have a severely handicapped autistic 24 year old son we rarely travel as a family distances of more than 250 miles ...maybe once in a decade.

    I do realize my situation is not normal...it is something one of two car families could be an ev with 250 to 300 mile range and still be quite interesting.

    dont ask me why but my better half would love to never have to stop at a gas station and just plug in once a week or two...or every night whatever she would remember to do .

    plug it in...set the timer to start charging at midnight to get a lower rate and unplug it in the morning and go...

    it would just work for her..

    i will state no transmission shifting manual and the immense instant torque of the tesla model s inane or ludicrous mode was quite eye opening a driving experience...

    definitely not a long distance tourer at this point as you mentioned my friend...

    its not a money saver thing but rather very quiet and seamless a driving experience.
    Last edited by JB; 12-02-2019, 06:42 PM.

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  • VicH
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    Originally posted by Frenzy36 View Post

    That didn't do them any good when California kept pulling the plug because of all the wildfires. Wouldn't have mattered if they had a million charging stations, There was simply no electricity period.
    Good point.

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