Nsx revamps for 2019..competitor to the mid engine c8? Hit the link to see.

[JB]

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/08/20...-focused-ever/

actually nit a fan of the NSX when i heward it was being revamped to improve its performance and looks i hit the link saying whatever...but once i looked at the photos acura actually listened to enthusiasts who were put off a bit by the new design as it released...

hit the link and give your opinion...

im still not a fanat 157 grand yet at least its not all chromed up...

I d say its a 100 times better than last years version.

last years owners were making similiar moves on their cars after huge discounts to motivate them to purchase...

Huge discounts as the new NSX has launched a failure of epic proportions...

where were all those people who said 150 to 200 grand is chump change...?

Was the styling the issue? We will find out for 2019 ...

last gen acura was 90 to 100 grand...

moving to 150 to start and on up was the bigger mistake than the styling...

im also not a fan of the electric motor aspect of the nsx either....and paying more for that really turns me off ti the vehicle,,,

(@nd i had a tesla awd model three on reserve too)

the sterile nature of the nsx is the issue i believe...

how about you?

[Ssscooter66]

No thanks, I'll stick with the V8, love the sound of it. ...

[John]

Ditto, the V8 is the sound for me too. While I truly admire the NSX as a great engineering accomplishment, it is not a car I want to own. Fasttoys has driven it and say it is without passion.

I need (and only buy) cars that are a thrill to drive. Even my DD, a 2017 WRX, is a hoot to drive, including super-spiritedly around corners, has exciting acceleration off the line due to its unsual throttle mapping, is just a lot of fun. Looking forward to my drive in it today.

A car has got to be a specially-exiting one to be part of my life. The NSX rewards in competence, but not in exhilaration according to many media. I’ll pass, even if they get smart and reduce it more mega thousands.

[John]

Some more new details on the NSX, though its Achilles heel, its price, starts at $159,000, a $1,500 increase.

It will take a keen eye to discern the 2019 NSX from earlier second-generation cars. Exterior changes are limited to body-color trim on the grille surround, front air intake mesh, and the mesh on the rear bumper. The optional carbon-fiber exterior bits now feature a high-gloss finish.

A new Thermal Orange Pearl paint option will ensure everyone sees the NSX coming, and the optional carbon ceramic brakes can be fitted with orange calipers while the standard iron brakes can get red calipers.

True some options are now standard, but when only 50 were sold in the entire country during this past April, raising your price Acura? Would have been smarter to reduce its starting price to $139,000 and get some sales traction. IMO, these moves will not save this car from it believed-to-be, only three year run.


https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tions-new-tire

[Fasttoys]

Acura was pushing one on me, dropped it by almost 45k. After a day of test driving I was NO THANK YOU. The car felt no different than driving a Honda Acord when cruising, I rather have something more exciting, emotional and special. Up grades were needed the NSX is too soft The looks and performance is great but I demand more from my sports cars other than being fast. Pick up 3 year old low miles at 85k I would definitely think about it. .

[Fireeagle]

I'll start off by saying that my daily driver is a 2013 Acura TL SE. I also had 3 previous TL/Legend's as daily drivers. I have no complaints about reliability and daily performance so they do make a good product. Would I buy a NSX is a good question. The NSX does look really good in person and the performance stats clearly put it in the super car arena. The problem that I have with it is the crazy price they are asking. I did a build your own with comparable equipment and features that are are in my 15 3LT Z51 Stingray. The price was just over $200,000. When you compare performance, they are very close. When you compare sound, Stingray all the way. Looks, Stingray still looks better IMHO. Price, Stingray wins that easily.

[OnPoint]

Looks like they tried to make it look more like a Mclaren.

I agree with the others (and apparently the market) - the car is overpriced for what it is/does.

[JB]

Will acura rip out strip out get rid of the electric powertrain portion of this 150 grand vehicle and just boost the turbo motor for more power and call it an Acura NSX gt2..

just imagine how much money could be pulled out of the vehicle if they ripped out all the batteries and electric motors ..then just turn up the turbonoost levels,

might add the passion many here have mentioned..

fwiw...even mclaren is offering massive discounts...of at least 20 grand...

look at the sales unit volume of these cars..

yes with heavy options porsches roll up there at or around 140 for the base or S model..

acuras NSX lackluster sales are a good lession for all those suggesting gm will price the c8 at near nsx levels.

Marchione went around 140 for the last viper and sales were terrible as well.

being greedy was acuras failure in the NSX and now the discounts are huge ti move even a few units..

[John]

GM is watching these pricing problems of two, competitor outstanding sports cars. A part of this is, of course, that total sports car sales are dropping.

While Corvette continued to capture 40% of the sports car market during the C7 generation, GM is also seeing the handwriting on the wall, and why they last fall, GM reduced the maximum capacity of the Bowling Green Assembly Plant by 18.5% (from 40,500 max Corvettes produced annually to 33,000 — both production numbers at “firewall overtime”). As Plant Manager Kai Spande said (still on video tape), we have reduced capacity to ‘right size production for an entire Corvette generation.’” Ergo, no more overproduction the first few years of a generation, then needing to subsidize sales with GM cash the last few years of a generation; those subsidies are now running $6k/unit for 2018’s and $4K/unit for 2019’s.

So two massive learnings available for GM now; they have learned the first one, to not initially overproduce the Corvette, resulting in the need to later cash-subsidize sales; and second, to properly price the ME.

[JB]

Considering gm had a maximum of 40000 unit capability for the annual prodctiin of the c7 and downsized that to 33000 for the c8.

i personally believe the much longer paint process is the reason as well.

Do you believe since gm produced 36000 units of the c7 in peak years even though it had a maximum capapbilith of 40k units when announcing a maximum capability of 33000 units there will be an actual prodiction maximum of 30k units a year ? Ten percent less than maximum.?

[John]

The new paint shop does has about a 100 degree lower temperature cooking process for the SMC panels, which results in less panel waviness and better paint. To compensate, the paint ovens are now 120 feet long instead of 40 feet in the old shop. However, the new paint shop has three paint ovens instead of two.

During 2016 C7 production, 40,669 Corvettes were actually produced.

According to Kai Spande, with maximum overtime, which includes two shifts per day at the paint shop (three are not possible), they will actually be able to produce 33,000 units annually. Without overtime, max annual production is approximately 24,000 units per year.

[JB]

571 nsx units sold in the usa in 2017. ..so far 100 units of nsx sold in 2018.

ridiculous sales numbers