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  • #16
    Originally posted by John View Post
    Don’t give up on the removable roof coupe having its motor being seen through it hatch glass.
    Not giving up, just saying that if the luggage compartment is on top of the engine, like in the McLaren GT.....
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    • #17
      Good point, and yet I believe GM has figured out even a better way, to give us both our cake and our getting to eat it too, e.g., seeing the motor and having really nice amount of coupe luggage space (thanks Maximum Bob). We have not heard even rumor one about the HT vert’s luggage space.
      Excited owners of a 2015 Z06. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 20 year members of NCM. Our 2020 ME C8 Corvette is next.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by P-Tree View Post
        I'm actually giving a presentation this weekend for my MBA program on how the C8 is going to shake up the sports car landscape.
        Cool!! Nice to be able to work the C8 into your studies. I've thought of a few C8 topics that would be fun for scholarly study. Couldn't do something like that in my graduate studies. If your presentation can be shown on this forum, create a thread and show it to us. Might prompt some interesting discussion. Also we can offer some grade input for your professor to consider!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Boomer View Post

          Cool!! Nice to be able to work the C8 into your studies. I've thought of a few C8 topics that would be fun for scholarly study. Couldn't do something like that in my graduate studies. If your presentation can be shown on this forum, create a thread and show it to us. Might prompt some interesting discussion. Also we can offer some grade input for your professor to consider!!
          Too kind. I think most would find it extremely underwhelming. The PowerPoint is mostly photos. The assignment is called 20/20. 20 slides, 20 seconds a slide on average, for a 6:40 long presentation. My current job is mind numbing, so I asked to do an industry and topic I actually enjoy

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          • #20
            Sounds great P-Tree. It'll give publicity to the C8 to whoever you present it to. Maybe its a marketing sketch. Have fun with it!!

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            • #21
              C8 KILLER......Maybe when they detune it, you know, down to say, 500hp, and start selling them for say $75,000.....C8 KILLER!!!!! 😎
              The least we can do is wave to each other

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              • #22
                The c7 grand sport in car and drivers lightning lap equaled the track time, same year, same track of the mclarens 570 s ..

                i really doubt the luxury oriented mclaren GT...is going to be quicker than the 570s....much less the c7 grand sport or upcoming c8 z51 fe4

                even at 210 grand for the mclaren GT.

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                • #23
                  Once you option up the C8 the price gap will close big time..... I guess I'm one of the few that would rather see a 'high end' ME C8 rather than a 'bargain basement' model full of compromises that will support the motoring press comments regarding 'bang for the buck'. Isn't it time for Corvette to truly step up and stand with the 'big boys' rather than just imitate 'em, albeit with low end detailing??? Don't get me wrong. I still intend to put a C8 'vert' in my garage as soon as I can get one but it clearly will not rival the Ferrari or Aston Martin nor will it be intended to.

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                  • #24
                    Great points tooold2race. The C7 was a massive step up in many ways, as you know, winning more major automotive awards (21) in its first year than any other vehicle before it or since.

                    I expect the C8 to be at least a comparable major improvement step forward, maybe even more of an upward leap.
                    Excited owners of a 2015 Z06. Lifetime, annual contributors, and 20 year members of NCM. Our 2020 ME C8 Corvette is next.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tooold2race View Post
                      Once you option up the C8 the price gap will close big time..... I guess I'm one of the few that would rather see a 'high end' ME C8 rather than a 'bargain basement' model full of compromises that will support the motoring press comments regarding 'bang for the buck'. Isn't it time for Corvette to truly step up and stand with the 'big boys' rather than just imitate 'em, albeit with low end detailing??? Don't get me wrong. I still intend to put a C8 'vert' in my garage as soon as I can get one but it clearly will not rival the Ferrari or Aston Martin nor will it be intended to.


                      Interestingly enough...not all of us want soft supple leather...and all the techno babble apple this carplay that...

                      i just want the z51 fe4, the dct, the 500 hp rear mid engine sports car and Im good..

                      I dont care what magazine writers pontificate about....(bang for the buck still cheap material dashboard or door panels)

                      just doesnt matter to me...

                      i just want to have a few laughs driving up and around the 7 lakes and bear mountain..

                      when I take my kid horse back riding in my corvette and Im driving on dirt or gravel roads across wood bridges etc...the dirt and wood chips somehow ,get inside my cars interior and i have to vacuum weekly ..the kids messy...lol


                      most drive suvs , range rovers , land rovers and mercedes ...

                      i crack myself up as im dodging huge potholes on the dirt road to the stables...in my corvette..

                      being my own person makes me laugh...

                      you want 14 way power seats...more power to you.

                      just don't make me buy that stuff...

                      i tend to find six months after purchase i forget half those special tech items in the interior that inflate the msrp so nicely for the manufacturer...

                      jmo
                      Last edited by JB; 05-16-2019, 02:46 AM.

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                      • #26
                        One word - Maintenance. Although the rising popularity of McLaren has something to do with their drivability and reliability, if something does go wrong, especially out of warranty, hold on to your wallet and be patient. I might be dramatizing a bit but for sure its not the same as owning a Chevy and one thing we haven't explored much here is engineering for maintainability. Surely, Chevrolet has considered maintainability a significant factor where with many lower volume dream cars, performance has the highest bias.

                        One other thing jumps out at me from this thread - how many comments said how much this GT, and most other rear mid-engine's for that matter, looks like the C8 and vice-versa. Its a great look, I just hope for a future where we can keep a little more distinction. That said, contrary to what non-owners seem to first think and say, I don't drive these cars to make me look different or good (that would take serious magic), I drive them because it's fun, pure fun
                        2016 NRB Z51 M7 Coupe with 3LT Kalahari
                        Is this thing getting better or am I? Both?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tooold2race View Post
                          Once you option up the C8 the price gap will close big time.....
                          Starting price of ~65k vs. starting price of ~210k. Even to reach 80% of the starting price for the McLaren GT, you'd have to put 103k worth of options on the base C8. Just going out on a limb here, but I don't think that Chevy is going to pull a Porsche and allow you to spend more than the base price on options. Even if you spent ~65k on options, equal to the base price of the C8, that would only be 62% of the base price for the GT. To me, not really closing the gap. And that's assuming that a buyer of new GT is going to have 0 options, which I would care to wager is around 0.05% chance of happening.

                          As far as the maintenance, I too find that appealing. What I also find appealing is that the aftermarket does not have exorbitant mark ups for Corvette products. You should see the GT-R tax on some mods, it would make you cringe.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by P-Tree View Post
                            It does look similar to the C8 renderings. This could in turn, make the C8 seem like even more of a "bargain". There are worse things in life than having your lowly Corvette being mistaken for a McLaren. I'm actually giving a presentation this weekend for my MBA program on how the C8 is going to shake up the sports car landscape.
                            As a old timer MBA I would love to read your presentation. I gave mine on the beginning of the GM Saturn project years ago.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bobfred44 View Post

                              As a old timer MBA I would love to read your presentation. I gave mine on the beginning of the GM Saturn project years ago.
                              Unfortunately, it's a public speaking exercise, so not much to share. Just a slide deck with 20 slides, hardly any text, mostly pictures. Everything else is in the 'ol nogging. But, going over quick history of the Corvette, and then the C8 and the departure from historical norms. Introducing Zora and the fact he wanted to go mid-engine in the 60s. Showing some of the mid-concepts throughout the years. Talking about the benefits of the mid-engine layout. Getting into the C8 developmental cycle. Moving on to competitors, concept of a "Halo Car" (see Audi's success with the R8), and comparative price points for the C8 compared to the competition. While not a widely used metric, I used $ per horsepower. C8 is substantially lower $/hp than any other mid-engine vehicle on sale today. Ending with discussion of current success of C7 (see #2 / #10/ #19 spot overall in Car&Driver's Lightning Lap) and how I believe that it will be a halo car for Chevy, as well as show that the US can compete in the mid-engine market.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JoeCT View Post
                                One word - Maintenance.
                                Our of warranty repair costs are an issue.

                                This guy spent $3000 on a replacement battery for his McLaren (the car uses a special low-weight LiOn battery), and later spent $35,000 (not a typo) replacing the steering rack.

                                Now, reverse is not working...
                                Current Vettes:
                                '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                                '91 Turquoise Convertible w/hardtop
                                '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust - Ordered on 4-1-2014, 2000 Status on 4-10-2014, TPW 5-12-2014, Built on 5-16-2014, Picked-up at dealership on 5-30-2014
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