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New cars sold in Europe from 2022 will be fitted with systems to limit top speed

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  • New cars sold in Europe from 2022 will be fitted with systems to limit top speed

    From CNN Business today:

    London (CNN Business)New cars sold in Europe from 2022 will have to be fitted with systems to limit their speed.

    Under new safety rules agreed by the European Union, all new vehicles are required to have "intelligent speed assistance" systems as standard equipment.
    The EU rules don't mandate specific technology for the systems, which can be temporarily overridden by the driver. Some carmakers have already developed ways of using GPS or cameras to detect posted speed limits and make sure vehicles adhere to them.

    European Commissioner Elżbieta Bieńkowska said in a statement that 25,000 people are killed each year on European roads, with the vast majority of accidents being caused by human error.

    "With the new advanced safety features that will become mandatory, we can have the same kind of impact as when the safety belts were first introduced," she said.
    The rules, which also mandate crash data recorders and reversing cameras, were hailed by safety advocates. But others raised concerns over the risk of drivers becoming complacent and less focused on the road conditions.

    The European Automotive Manufacturers Association also has concerns about the technology. It warned last year of "many infrastructure-related issues holding back its widespread application."
    It said that road signs are not standardized across Europe, making speed limits difficult to detect. Digital maps lack speed limit information for many roads, and the data is not always current.
    "That is why intelligent speed assistance systems should be introduced gradually in cars to provide enough time to update our infrastructure," it said in December.
    Intelligent speed assistance systems don't automatically apply the brakes when a car is going too fast. Instead, they limit engine power to keep vehicles to the speed limit unless overridden by the driver.

    Some European automakers see an advantage in limiting speeds.
    Volvo, which is owned by China's Geely, said earlier this month that it would its stop cars from going faster than 180 kilometers per hour (112 miles per hour).
    It said it is also considering other technology that could put stricter speed limits on cars driving near schools and hospitals.
    "We want to start a conversation about whether car makers have the right or maybe even an obligation to install technology in cars that changes their driver's behavior," Volvo CEO Håkan Samuelsson said at the time.

    The EU rules must now be formally approved by member states and the European Parliament.

    Lianne Kolirin contributed reporting.
    This reminds me of when I was in Singapore several years back and the commercial vehicles (including taxis) were fitted with a light on their roof. The light went on if the vehicle exceeded the speed limit and then was pulled over by police and issued an automatic ticket.
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  • #2
    Thank you. Yet top speed can be temporarily overridden ?
    Enjoying my Shadow gray C8. What a car it is.

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    • #3
      Very interesting that if the rules do not further tighten, I would be able to take my 2023 ZORA on the unlimited speed sections of the Autobahn at 350 KPH.

      Thank you Jeff.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by John
        Very interesting that if the rules do not further tighten, I would be able to take my 2023 ZORA on the unlimited speed sections of the Autobahn at 350 KPH.

        Thank you Jeff.
        Umm, wishful thinking there John
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Shadow
          Thank you. Yet top speed can be temporarily overridden ?
          Still in the planning stages, however, my guess is the temporary over-ride would be for lower speeds, such as overtaking a truck, not for exceeding the top speed cap.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jeff@DaumPhotography

            Umm, wishful thinking there John
            For sure that is my wishful thinking for me personally, for to start with I will not choose to afford ZORA (est @ around $200K). And more reasons LOL, though I do think ZORA’s top speed would be around 225 MPH.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by John

              For sure that is my wishful thinking for me personally, for to start with I will not choose to afford ZORA (est @ around $200K). And more reasons LOL, though I do think ZORA’s top speed would be around 225 MPH.
              Agreed, ~1000 HP and clean aerodynamics (i.e., not too downforce-induced drag, like with the ZR-1's "big wing") and 350 KPH won't be a problem. The Road&Track link below lists the ZR-1 as capable of 212 MPH.
              Last edited by Mobius; 03-27-2019, 02:28 PM.
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              Current Vettes:
              '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
              '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
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              • #8
                The Zora may be castrated in the womb, if it does not break-out soon. At least in Europe.

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                • #9
                  New cars sold in Europe from 2022 will be fitted with systems to limit top speed

                  Maybe a good idea there. Hopefully the buyer/owner can set the speed.

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                  • #10
                    It's much worse. The headline understates the issue.

                    I read a different article that was nothing to do with TOP speed. The law is intended to make the car obey ALL speed limits by the use of GPS and signage recognition.

                    The ultimate nanny car.

                    The speed limiter device, called intelligent speed assistance (ISA), uses GPS data and sign recognition cameras to detect speed limits where the car is travelling, and then will sound a warning and automatically slow the vehicle down if it is exceeding the limit.
                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...under-eu-plans
                    Last edited by Bikerjulio; 03-27-2019, 05:15 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Creepy big brother news

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                      • #12
                        Definitely something I hope I never have to drive !
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                        • #13
                          I always thought that the major German car companies, except for Porsche, limited their sedans to something like 155 mph, mostly to not exceed the capability of the tires fitted at the factory. GM, pre bankruptcy, electronically limited the top speed of many cars to the maximum speed rating of the factory tires fitted. In the late 1990s, the Oldsmobile Aurora was limited to 109 mph, unless you bought the H rated tire fitted "Autobahn" package, in which case the top speed was limited at 130 mph.

                          And I recall many other manufacturers speed limiting their cars as well.

                          What would be really Big Brother is to have a non-defeatable navigation system that is programmed with the speed limits of all roads and highways, and limits your speed to within 10 mph or so of the maximum posted speed limit.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob
                            What would be really Big Brother is to have a non-defeatable navigation system that is programmed with the speed limits of all roads and highways, and limits your speed to within 10 mph or so of the maximum posted speed limit.
                            So, I guess we'll all need to maintain our C8s (which won't have the speed-limiting nannies) well, so that we can drive them indefinitely, and "not go gentle into that good night."

                            Last edited by Mobius; 03-28-2019, 07:30 AM. Reason: added video
                            My C8:
                            '20 Elkhart Lake Blue 2LT Coupe, Natural Interior, GT2 Two-Tone Seats, Performance Exhaust, Front Lift, Carbon Flash Wheels, Engine Appearance Package 2000 Status December 27, 2019; 3000 Status January 2, 2020; 3400 Status March 10, 2020;TPW March 16, 2020; Built June 4th, 2020 (COVID-19); Delivery July 1, 2020

                            Current Vettes:
                            '68 Lemans Blue 327/350 Convertible
                            '91 Turquoise Convertible with Hardtop
                            '14 Lime Rock Green 2LT Convertible, Black Top, Kalahari, 7-Speed, Performance Exhaust

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob
                              I always thought that the major German car companies, except for Porsche, limited their sedans to something like 155 mph, mostly to not exceed the capability of the tires fitted at the factory. GM, pre bankruptcy, electronically limited the top speed of many cars to the maximum speed rating of the factory tires fitted. In the late 1990s, the Oldsmobile Aurora was limited to 109 mph, unless you bought the H rated tire fitted "Autobahn" package, in which case the top speed was limited at 130 mph.

                              And I recall many other manufacturers speed limiting their cars as well.

                              What would be really Big Brother is to have a non-defeatable navigation system that is programmed with the speed limits of all roads and highways, and limits your speed to within 10 mph or so of the maximum posted speed limit.
                              Originally posted by Mobius

                              So, I guess we'll all need to maintain our C8s (which won't have the speed-limiting nannies) well, so that we can drive them indefinitely, and "not go gentle into that good night."

                              We will have one electric second car at some point in time. However, the day we learn the C9 or the C10 will be all electric, we would, according to my wife, by an “extra,” last of the Corvette generation’s combustion fired Corvette, put it in a hermetic bubble, so we have it in reserve when our then Corvette we have been driving, were not longer useable. She is beyond adamant that we will always have one combustion Corvette — and who am I to argue with her on that thinking.
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