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  • Changes in GM Strategies

    Two interesting PR of note:

    from Axios Joann Muller:

    GM appears to be serious about their zero-emissions vision: The company is shifting 75% of its powertrain engineers from internal-combustion engines to EV development as it prepares to unleash of a wave of electrics under the Cadillac brand.
    The big picture: GM CEO Mary Barra has laid out a blueprint for shifting to electric and self-driving cars — a world, she says, with "zero crashes, zero emissions and zero congestion."
    • That will require shifting resources to AV and EV development — at a time when GM is closing factories and laying off 15,000 workers, triggering the wrath of President Trump.
    What's happening: In a meeting with investors this morning, GM is expected to share more details about its next generation of EVs — 20 EV or fuel cell powered models to be released by 2023.
    • They'll be based on a flexible EV architecture, enabling many body styles in front-wheel, rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations.
    • Most of the EVs will be introduced as Cadillacs, a chance to position the iconic-but-tarnished luxury brand once again as a tech leader.
    • The first model, a Cadillac crossover utility, debuts in 2021.
    • A big focus will be on China, Cadillac's top-selling market.
    • Eventually, Buick, GMC and Chevrolet will share the EV architecture.
    What we're hearing: GM President Mark Reuss is doubling the resources dedicated to EVs and AVs — not dollars, but brainpower.
    • Its Cruise Automation self-driving unit is reporting progress on the AV front: CTO Kyle Vogt tweeted a video of its driverless cars easily handling complex traffic in San Francisco ahead of this year's launch of a commercial robotaxi service.
    The bottom line: Today, 75% of GM's 4,000 powertrain engineers work on internal combustion engine technology and 25% work on EVs. Soon, those numbers will be reversed.

    And from Electrek by Jameson Dow

    GM will position Cadillac as their lead EV brand in a mission to catch up to Tesla in the US electric vehicle market, according to sources talking to Reuters.

    They report that GM will announce these plans to investors on Friday. They are expected to announce that a Cadillac vehicle will be the first car made on their upcoming next-generation “BEV3” platform. This would be the first all-electric Cadillac GM has made or announced.

    So far, we have no other details and GM is not expected to release any other details about the upcoming Cadillac in the Friday update.

    Cadillac’s previous entries into the electrification space included the Cadillac ELR and the Cadillac CT6 plug-in hybrids.

    The ELR was a plug-in hybrid based on the Volt platform with an upgraded interior and two fewer doors. It sold poorly due to its high introductory price, almost twice the Volt’s base price despite having the same internals.

    Eventually, GM dealers lowered the price to around $50,000 and managed to sell a few more cars to some pretty happy owners, but the adventure was short-lived and the car was killed off after only two model years in existence (2014 and 2016). GM also announced the end of the Volt, the car the ELR was based on, late last year.

    The Cadillac CT6 was actually a quite impressive offering when compared to other powertrains in the CT6 line, offering more power, more efficiency and a lower price than similarly-equipped gas models. Alas, GM managed to sell very few of them and killed the project along with the Volt at the end of last year.

    GM, for their part, has made other electric vehicles, including the excellent Chevy Bolt, and has sold more vehicles with a plug in the US than any company other than Tesla.

    Electrek’s Take
    GM is one of the larger, stodgier automakers out there. So they deserve great credit for taking EVs seriously before almost anybody else. The Volt came to market before the Model S, and the Bolt came to market before the Model 3, and both were very capable entries into the market for their time.

    What GM doesn’t deserve credit for, though, is their lack of focus on selling electric vehicles. Despite all the large talk about upcoming vehicle models and declarations that they will become a leader in the space, those mostly have not materialized.

    We hear commitments that this dominance will come in the future, yet that future never comes. The Bolt EV was meant to compete with the Model 3, yet Tesla is outselling that vehicle roughly 10:1 – despite the Bolt still boasting an almost $10,000 lower price.

    And the CT6 plug-in should have been an easy sell for any CT6 shopper and also for many Model S shoppers, but GM has sold fewer than 500 of them in the US. Ever. In the same time, Tesla has sold roughly a hundred times as many Model S – again, at a higher average selling price.

    The market for quality EVs is obviously there, demand does exist, but automakers, including GM, seem uninterested in selling EVs. Meanwhile, the only company fully committed to selling them, the one GM intends to challenge with this move, is going gangbusters.

    So we of course hope, once again, that automakers’ threats will materialize, and that they will start taking plug-in sales seriously, and start challenging Tesla. The more electric vehicles out there, and the fewer gas-powered vehicles, the better for all of us.

    Volvo recently announced a similar, but more ambitious, move, resurrecting their Polestar brand with a luxury performance electric vehicle focus. While GM’s move falls short of that, it’s nice to see them trying to position one of their better-respected brands as a leader in EVs. Hopefully they will move further in this direction in the future.

    GM has as good a chance as any to make this happen in the US with a well-regarded, classically American brand like Cadillac – but they need to give their full effort, not half-measures. We would welcome that effort, should it come.
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  • #2
    Jeff, thank you very much. Your thread contributes lots of new information on this subject. Adding some more, a companion thread here:

    https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ctric-division

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    • #3
      Thank you Jeff. Here’s the full interview between Phil LeBeau (CNBC) and Mary Barra. She is an excellent company spokesperson.

      https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/1...ars-autos.html

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      • #4
        Jeff, thank you. I had not seen that one.

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        • #5
          I saw one video of the c8 and i kept saying to myself that car sounds so quiet maybe its in hybrid all electric mode...

          i never thought it would happen bit anything is possible...

          testing the 1000 hp version already?

          maybe the sound was just off in the video but I sore i was hearing road gravel noise but no engine sound...

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          • #6
            Here a story that has a direct tie-in to the growing EV market... U.S. automakers push for deal on fuel efficiency rules

            Most automakers oppose freezing the requirements, but also want relief from Obama-era standards that called for a roughly 5 percent annual reduction in carbon emissions - targets that translate to fuel efficiency requirements for various classes of vehicles.

            “Pick the middle. Pick 2.5 percent and get on with life,” Jim Lentz, chief executive officer of Toyota Motor Corp’s (7203.T) North America subsidiary, told Reuters at the Detroit auto show this week.


            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1PA1GO
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            • #7
              Originally posted by JB View Post
              I saw one video of the c8 and i kept saying to myself that car sounds so quiet maybe its in hybrid all electric mode...

              i never thought it would happen bit anything is possible...

              testing the 1000 hp version already?

              maybe the sound was just off in the video but I sore i was hearing road gravel noise but no engine sound...
              Can you dig up that video?
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              • #8
                I render that video (can not find it now), and it was driving through a motel parking lot at a slow rate of speed, and was very quiet. However, might that have been because the driver had selected its “stealth” exhaust mode (some quiet mode as in my C7 Z06)?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by John View Post
                  However, might that have been because the driver had selected its “stealth” exhaust mode (some quiet mode as in my C7 Z06)?
                  Yes, my thought as well.

                  The multi-mode exhaust is definitely one option I plan on getting with my C8.

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                  '91 Turquoise Convertible w/hardtop
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                  • #10
                    Our C7 Z06, factory exhaust (and the first Corvette we have owned that we did not change it out), is in “track exhaust mode” most of the time. One exception is when we are on a very long day road trip. I then usually change it from track to “stealth” mode an hour into the day so we can quietly talk back and forth. However, even then, by lunch time, I am having exhaust music withdrawal, and before getting off the road for lunch, it is back to track mode, though again back to stealth early mid afternoon.

                    I love the ability to change its sounds levels.
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