No GM: NAIAS Press Conference Except For Cadillac Just Announced

[John]

Here is confirmation that GM is not even having a press conference at NAIAS, though look at the OEM’s who are. They are however having a Cadillac event, which most belief will be the CT6 three-row SUV’s reveal on Sunday, Jan. 13th.

[Plasboy]

Wonder what the pending industry announcement is on Tuesday.

[Shrike6]

Wonder what the pending industry announcement is on Tuesday.

Yeah, what he said...X100

[JB]

I was concerned and then realized on Monday January 14th at least GAC was holding a press conference at 1:40 pm...


whew!

[Shrike6]

What is GAC?

[John]

Geely Auto Group:

[OnPoint]

So, no GM other than Caddy, no Porsche, no Ferrari, no Mercedes.

[JB]

Chevy cant manage to show the new c8 but a chinese based company that doesnt even sell cars in america yet has a press conference at the detroit show...

please excuse my post as it didnt convey the sarcasm i intended...

im annoyed at the corvette team for dragging this **** out...

i admittedly have little patience after the almost two year drag out on the little awd tesla i was going to get my wofe...

then one day i drove over to an alfa dealer and in 15 minutes bought a alfa delivered the next day...

im just getting annoyed at all this cloak and agger **** with the c8 already...

just show the dam car already...tell us the engine hp specs and then take your time prodicing it...

if we like what we see and are imoressed with the specs well order one like all the porsche fans are doing with the new 992 that wont be in the states for at least a year...

shipping from germany requires usually a three month lead time for ordered products...on top of the year long wait...

gac has a press release but chevy doesnt...***?

i guess Im grumpy today....

What is GAC?

[Plasboy]

Chevy cant manage to show the new c8 but a chinese based company that doesnt even sell cars in america yet has a press conference at the detroit show...

please excuse my post as it didnt convey the sarcasm i intended...

im annoyed at the corvette team for dragging this **** out...

i admittedly have little patience after the almost two year drag out on the little awd tesla i was going to get my wofe...

then one day i drove over to an alfa dealer and in 15 minutes bought a alfa delivered the next day...

im just getting annoyed at all this cloak and agger **** with the c8 already...

just show the dam car already...tell us the engine hp specs and then take your time prodicing it...

if we like what we see and are imoressed with the specs well order one like all the porsche fans are doing with the new 992 that wont be in the states for at least a year...

shipping from germany requires usually a three month lead time for ordered products...on top of the year long wait...

gac has a press release but chevy doesnt...***?

i guess Im grumpy today....

Well **** and I thought we could share a limo from the airport to go to the GAC press conference.
Seriosly I’m with you, it’s getting a little old. Just say yeah it’s happening, be patient.

[C8-wannabe]

If the issue rumors are true, believe they won't announce until all the problems are fixed, new parts supply chain ready etc...

Can't see them making it public when the time line is still so up in the air. If they did that, and couldn't start producing, then the media will be a huge circus of bad press.

[John]

Maybe there once was an electrical issue (small or large), and as it was first known in June, and from what I am hearing showed up even before then, that that problem is nearly fixed or completely fixed at this time, and they are now in the final phase of “testing to destruction on the electrical system, and been busy testing the rest of the car at Yuma and Milford Proving Grounds out of our sight for months.

[John]

It is our impatience, not GM “dragging” anything out. Many GM tech engineering advancements have pioneered in our Corvettes. If they have found an issue during the “testing and development” process, which appears to be the case, good for the GM team to take whatever time it takes so when they deliver the first customer cars, they are excellent enhancements of what has come before.

[John]

[QUOTE=JBsC6;n19330]Chevy cant manage to show the new c8 but a chinese based company that doesnt even sell cars in america yet has a press conference at the detroit show...

please excuse my post as it didnt convey the sarcasm i intended...

im annoyed at the corvette team for dragging this **** out...

i admittedly have little patience after the almost two year drag out on the little awd tesla i was going to get my wofe...

then one day i drove over to an alfa dealer and in 15 minutes bought a alfa delivered the next day...

im just getting annoyed at all this cloak and agger **** with the c8 already...

just show the dam car already...tell us the engine hp specs and then take your time prodicing it...

if we like what we see and are imoressed with the specs well order one like all the porsche fans are doing with the new 992 that wont be in the states for at least a year...

shipping from germany requires usually a three month lead time for ordered products...on top of the year long wait...

gac has a press release but chevy doesnt...***?

i guess Im grumpy today....{/QUOTE]


I agree with your assessment, exactly using your words, “I’m grumpy today.” If from here out you choose to adjust your attitude and your timetable (you get to choose), you are going to be super positive at some point in the spring.

If however, you choose to jump shift and buy something else right now, you are the boss — and good for you.



I am choosing to be postive, looking forward to the exciting 2020 mid engine Corvette. Hell, I have waited 50 years. I will wait a little longer.

[MidEngine]

True that waiting sucks. Within my budget I am not buying a 300 HP new Caymen for $100,000. Even at that price I would be leaving out many wanted options. I will wait for the 500 HP C8 that will cost roughly the same. At that price, I will be able to get what I really want too, a hard top convertible C8.

[John]

An esteemed automedia analyst, Henry Payne, just added more weight to “no surprise ME reveal at NAIAS>

No mid-engine Corvette at Detroit auto show

Henry Payne, The Detroit NewsPublished 11:55 p.m. ET Dec. 11, 2018 | Updated 12:20 a.m. ET Dec. 12, 2018
(Photo: Car and Driver)
It is the auto industry’s white whale: the elusive, powerful, long-rumored mid-engine Corvette C8. Chevrolet refuses to acknowledge its existence despite numerous sightings at General Motors' Milford Proving Grounds and race tracks like Wisconsin’s Elkhart Lake and Germany’s legendary Nürburgring.

Whale-trackers were sure it would breach the surface at this year’s Detroit auto show where previous Corvettes have debuted.

But they will have to wait a little longer. A Chevy spokesman confirmed the brand will not be revealing any new vehicles at the January show. The current-generation Corvette C7 was introduced at the Detroit show in 2013, with the C7.R race car breaking cover a year later.

The new Corvette is not expected to be seen until sometime in the spring.

Though hope of a Detroit sighting dimmed months ago, speculation stirred again last week with the posting of an internet video showing a race mule — barely disguised in zebra camouflage — night-testing at Sebring Raceway in Florida.

With the 24 Hours of Daytona kicking off the IMSA WeatherTech Sportscar Challenge season at the end of January, don't expect to see the new Corvette there. A spokesman for Wixom race shop Pratt & Miller, which prepares Chevy’s Corvette racers, confirmed it will enter the same current-generation C7.R race car in this year's Daytona endurance race.

International GT racing homologation rules require that 100 production cars be built in order to enter a race car. While the rules have been bent in the past for low-production models (the Ford GT, for example), the mass-produced Chevy traditionally has conformed to the standards: race car follows production car.

“I don’t think we’ll see (the race car) this year due to the timing of the homologation rules,” says Ford Performance Engineer Mark Rushbrook, whose race arm fields one of Corvette’s chief competitors, the mid-engine Ford GT. “But we know they are working on it and we are looking forward to seeing them on track."

The News reported in August 2016 that Chevy was developing the eighth-generation Corvette as a mid-engine car.

In addition to spy shots of the mid-engine car testing in Milford, the project was consistent with GM's investment of nearly $800 million in upgrades to its Bowling Green facility where Corvettes are built. Production is expected to begin there in fall 2019.

The iconic Chevy – dubbed America’s “affordable supercar” for performance rivaling $200,000 Porsches and Ferraris at half the price – has traditionally been a front-engine car. In order to make the next performance leap, however, program managers determined a mid-engine layout was necessary.

Mid-engine cars have better balance and handling than their front-bay cousins. That handling is not only important on road, but is key to keeping Corvette competitive at the summit of international motorsport where it faces stiff competition from mid-engine Ford GT and Ferrari 488 supercars. Even Porsche's 911, Stuttgart’s rear-engine racing icon, has moved it engine amidships to keep pace.

A mid-engine layout also opens options for Chevy to take advantage of new technology like locating an electric motor up front for all-wheel drive.

Bob Lutz, GM’s former product chief — who received approval for a mid-engine Corvette in 2007 before it was sidelined by the Great Recession — speculated to The News in 2016 that the C8’s long lead time foreshadowed “electric motors at the front (that) would enable limited AWD capability.”

Car and Driver magazine has reported that a hybrid, twin-turbo V-8 version of the Corvette C8 is planned that could generate 1,000 horsepower with all-wheel drive.

The drivetrain changes are reported to include — in addition to a reliable, entry-level pushrod V-8 – a high-revving, Ferrari-like, flat-plane crankshaft V-8. The higher pitch of the camouflaged Corvette lighting up the Sebring night seems consistent with this option.

The mid-engine car’s absence from this January's show has led to speculation that the project base been delayed.

Hagerty magazine's Don Sherman, a veteran tracker of the mid-engine car’s development, said, “There may have been some issue that had to be resolved.”

Like finding Moby ****, it’s hard to know all the details. Bringing an all-new sports car to market together with new engines and global race programs requires a lot of coordination.

The white whale is getting closer.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/op...ow/2274075002/