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Corvette Today: Corvette News & Headlines, Early October 2023

The automotive industry is going through a tumultuous time right now with the United Auto Workers striking the Big 3 automakers. Your CORVETTE TODAY host, Steve Garrett, teams up again with Keith Cornett from CorvetteBlogger to bring you the most up-to-date information in the world of Corvette. https://youtu.be/N-JFEwaK2PQ?si=u3tepRnTgFEcCKAM; https://podcasts.adorilabs.com/corve...AyWJ7BnoEURVpA

Besides the UAW strike, here are some of the other Corvette topics that Steve and Keith will discuss:

1. 2024 Corvette production started on Monday, September 18th

2. Two ZR1 prototypes are spotted in Colorado with no wheel coverings and no exhaust sounds

3. A C3 Corvette gets a "Mako-over" into a Mako Shark II

4. A C8 Z06 falls off a lift at a dealership

5. A 2023 70th Anniversary Z06 sells at Mecum for $247,500

6. A Chevy Silverado rolls over a C8 Corvette....ON PURPOSE!

Every other week, CORVETTE TODAY brings you the latest news in the world of Corvette to keep you informed on what's happening with America's Sports Car!
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2024 & 2023 Corvette Info Including E-Ray, SR & Z06 Pricing, SR & Z06 Visualizers, 70th Anniversary Info, Press Releases for SR & Z06 & Their Build & Price, Order Guides & Visualizers

2024 Order Guide Here: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...=22639&type=0#
2023 Corvette Brochure: https://www.chevrolet.com/content/da...D7Q0fp8nIEE57Y
E-Ray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Official E-Ray Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
Official GM E-Ray Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...and-visualizer
+ 25 KEY E-Ray Components/Factors: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...rs-information
E-Ray Leaked Info/Visualizer: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...tte-e-ray-leak
Z51 & Z06 GM Track Specs: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ecommendations
Z06 BUILD & PRICE: https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...d-price/config
Z06 Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
Z06 MSRP and Options Pricing: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...freight-charge
2023 SR Build & Price: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...up-and-running
*2023 SR & Z06 Official Owners Manual: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/docs...ersManual.pdf; and,
https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...owner-s-manual
* 2023 GM Bash Major Seminar with HQ video: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...ore-bash-video
*2023 Stingray Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
* COPMPLETE 2023 STINGRAY PRICING: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...ion-Center.pdf
*2023 Stingray (ONLY Order Guide: https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NA...D=22412&type=0
*70th Anniversary Combined Press Release For SR & Z06: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...iversary-model
*Z06 Press Release: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-press-release
*Z06 Reveal Pictures: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...eveal-pictures
*Z06 Visualizer: https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui?...US&channel=b2c
Order Guide (unofficial): https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...-action-center
*Z06 vs Z07 Aero Components: https://www.midenginecorvetteforum.c...s-similarities
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    As the GT3 homologation deadline for the 2024 racing season draws near, General Motors and Pratt Miller Engineering are working feverishly to finalize details of the Corvette Z06 GT3.R that will compete, at a minimum, in the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship and FIA World Endurance Championship next year. Wind tunnel and dyno testing is scheduled to begin in the weeks after Le Mans, and full homologation is expected by October. But there are many things to be discovered before then, and even after.

    “It was definitely a benefit that we started our development so early; we were on track last fall,” explains Corvette Z06 GT3.R Program Manager Christie Bagne. “So by the time we hit the end of last year, we already knew the primary aero concept that we’d be moving forward with and things like that. Then we were able to move on very quickly onto things like different damper evaluation. So we’re at the point where we’re working on the fine tuning, and that was definitely enabled by starting that development process last fall.”

    The engineering team has been primarily testing on the tire it knows — the same Michelin tire it races on in the WeatherTech Championship. But before and after homologation, they’ll be working to gather as much information as they can on how the car works on different tires so they can have the information for customers racing in different series around the world

    “We’re sourcing Goodyear and Pirelli and making sure that that’s worked into our development testing plan as well,” says Bagne. “We want to get well ahead of it in terms of testing different tires, testing different configurations for different series. We’ve developed a great platform with this car, where the current car was developed very much to run on a Michelin tire at IMSA tracks and Le Mans primarily, the GT3 car has been optimized for a wider operating window. So we expect to have quite a bit of success in terms of being able to have the workability to come up with the best possible setups for the different tires, and then provide those learnings to our customer at the onset, so that when they hit the grid with their car, they’ve already benefited from all the testing that we’ve done in advance.”

    The priority will be having cars ready for IMSA and WEC competition next season. But while GM wants to have cars for customers to race worldwide, including major GT endurance races such as the 24 Hours of Spa and the 24 Hours of Nurburgring — where Bagne and the key members of the engineering team spent last weekend getting the lay of the land — the aim is not to turn out a huge volume of Z06 GT3.Rs. GM will build at least 20, but it doesn’t plan to churn out hundreds of GT3 cars like some other manufacturers. Because of that, the manufacturer expects to be able to deliver a better customer support experience with their partner PME, Bagne notes.

    “We realize that this is our first time launching a proper global customer racing program with the Corvette. So because we’re low volume, and we intend to have the support be a differentiator, the customers will have world-class access to us as the manufacturer representatives, but then also the technical engineering support.

    “They’re going to have support at the races, but also in between the races, which arguably matters even more than just having someone firefighting at the races. They’re always going to know exactly who to call — we’re going to be in constant contact with our customers, understanding what their needs are, how we can support them, how we can help them win races … that will be a differentiator. Every individual that’s racing these Corvettes is going to be treated as an individual with individual needs. We’re going to be listening to their feedback, and they’re actually going to have a voice in what we do.”

    While this may be GM’s first true GT3 car — previous Corvette GT3 cars were built by Callaway, and Cadillac’s ATS-V GT3 was never sold to customers — they don’t seem behind the curve compared to other manufacturers that have done several iterations of homologated race cars, although only the heat of competition will truly reveal if that’s correct. Part of that is because GM and PME have previous experience with homologated cars in the GTE/GTLM versions of the Corvette, now on its fourth generation. Another factor is that some of the key personnel, such as engineer Kyle Millay and PME technical director Ben Johnson, have been on the pit stand at Daytona and Le Mans. The Z06 GT3.R is a race car designed by a race team. The experience earned through years of racing Corvettes are going into the GT3 car.

    It also doesn’t hurt that GM has vast resources in one location. GM Powertrain in Pontiac, Mich., is 40 minutes away from PME. And PME is 20 minutes away form GM’s Milford Proving Ground. They want to test something they’ve implemented on the car? No need to book time at a track hours away.

    “[A couple of weeks ago] we were able to shake down a chassis at the Milford Proving Ground. So we’ve now had two tests using our own road course, which is a great opportunity to get the cars on a transporter, drive 20 minutes down the road, have two full days open on a racetrack, work on all kinds of drivability items — pulling out of the pits, things like that. We don’t have to wait and book a test day and try to get track time to work on that stuff. We just cruise right over to our proving ground and enjoy having that in-house capability. So again, there’s so much efficiency that I think is going to result in a better car,” says Bagne.

    A little farther afield, the program will also benefit from the Charlotte Technical Center. In fact, Bagne credits the WEC team’s success at Portimao, a track where Corvette had never raced, with the Driver-in-the-Loop simulator and other work done in Charlotte.

    Whether the experience and efficiency all comes together in success for the first Corvette GT3 will be seen at Daytona in January. But Bagne and her team certainly seem to believe they’re on the right track to produce a winning car.


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    Thanks Meldoon. Great info in that article. I appreciate your finding /posting it
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    • #3
      Can’t wait to see them racing next year! Should be exciting!
      I’m goin’ driving 👍

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          There was at least one "rich" quote attributed to the project manager, which was, "it's a good thing we started development so early . . . " The truth is GM started this project at least 2 years too late. That's why they had to beg for an exemption to compete in GTD and cobble together a detuned GTLM C8R, which hasn't been terribly competitive.

          Every other competitor had a GT3 spec car ready for for the changeover in the 2022 IMSA season. The heat is on now because the C8R exemption expires at the end of this season, and Corvette will not be able to compete if they don't finish and get approval for this car.

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            Originally posted by Foosh
            There was at least one "rich" quote attributed to the project manager, which was, "it's a good thing we started development so early . . . " The truth is GM started this project at least 2 years too late. That's why they had to beg for an exemption to compete in GTD and cobble together a detuned GTLM C8R, which hasn't been terribly competitive.

            Every other competitor had a GT3 spec car ready for for the changeover in the 2022 IMSA season. The heat is on now because the C8R exemption expires at the end of this season, and Corvette will not be able to compete if they don't finish and get approval for this car.
            They are 4th in points, 27 behind your beloved Porsche so if that is not terribly competitive I will take it. I am guessing they are probably a lot closer to gaining approval than we might guess. Until then, they can continue to gain data and struggle with their cobbled together detuned GTLM C8R that hasn’t been terribly competitive.
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            • #7
              Vette Interested

              OK, but there are only 5 in the GTD Pro class running the full season. And what is it about certain folks that can't process that I want to see both my "beloved Porsche" and my "beloved" Corvette do well? We own both, and I'm just objective. I am disappointed that GM couldn't make a decision early enough to field a GT3 car like everyone else did last season, and couldn't even get it ready by season 2. I've often wondered if that battle had something to do with long-time CRT leader Doug Fehan leaving GM. He has since returned in a consulting role.

              At any rate, the point was GM didn't allow the Corvette team didn't start "early" contrary to what the project managers stated. GM procrastinated on a GT3 funding decision and started way late, and for two years having been trying to compete with an old car that wasn't built for the class through the generosity of IMSA and other teams, who didn't want to alienate Corvette fans and keep them involved in the series.

              IMSA has never had to deal with BOP on a car that doesn't meet class specs, and they can't allow it to run as the faster car it was in a higher class. That wouldn't be fair to everyone else who came up with a car that met the specs.

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              • #8
                As long as the Corvette GT3.R is competitive halfway through the first season I will be happy. or if not, to start the second one. I have modest expectations due to their late start and that the competitors are not only highly skilled but also very experienced in this class.
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                • #9
                  With the R&D they have in WEC and IMSA on the C8 platform, I really think they will be close right out the gate with the GT3.R. If not, BOP will assist like they have the other manufacturers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vette Interested
                    With the R&D they have in WEC and IMSA on the C8 platform, I really think they will be close right out the gate with the GT3.R. If not, BOP will assist like they have the other manufacturers.
                    I would not bet against them…….
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Foosh
                      There was at least one "rich" quote attributed to the project manager, which was, "it's a good thing we started development so early . . . " The truth is GM started this project at least 2 years too late. That's why they had to beg for an exemption to compete in GTD and cobble together a detuned GTLM C8R, which hasn't been terribly competitive.

                      Every other competitor had a GT3 spec car ready for for the changeover in the 2022 IMSA season. The heat is on now because the C8R exemption expires at the end of this season, and Corvette will not be able to compete if they don't finish and get approval for this car.

                      Foosh ………I believe the other teams like Porsche were already competing with GT3 spec cars in what was/is a lower class that GM chose not to compete in, that’s why they were ready when GTLM was cancelled. You make it sound like GM knew that GTLM would be cancelled 2 years before they did.
                      As the article states clearly, there is a lot of effort involved in fielding a brand new car. Throw in the customer cars and they are now in foreign territory. I think they will be fine…….looking forward to watching them compete.

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                      In 2021, IMSA announced that the GTLM class would be replaced with a GT3 based GTD pro class. The ACO also announced that GTE in the WEC would also be replaced by GT3 in 2024, with the GTE Pro class seeing its final race in 2022 and the GTE Am class in 2023.​
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Meldoon

                        I would not bet against them…….
                        I agree but I am sure there are folks that will!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Meldoon


                          Foosh ………I believe the other teams like Porsche were already competing with GT3 spec cars in what was/is a lower class that GM chose not to compete in, that’s why they were ready when GTLM was cancelled. You make it sound like GM knew that GTLM would be cancelled 2 years before they did.
                          As the article states clearly, there is a lot of effort involved in fielding a brand new car. Throw in the customer cars and they are now in foreign territory. I think they will be fine…….looking forward to watching them compete.

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                          In 2021, IMSA announced that the GTLM class would be replaced with a GT3 based GTD pro class. The ACO also announced that GTE in the WEC would also be replaced by GT3 in 2024, with the GTE Pro class seeing its final race in 2022 and the GTE Am class in 2023.​
                          Everyone knew GTLM was unsustainable and going away WAY longer than that, including GM. However, it's quite possible that the marketing folks were hoping for a situation like in the old ALMS days where GTLM would limp along for a couple of years with basically a Corvette racing another Corvette. That was a marketing folks dream with headlines after every race "Corvette Wins at [Fill in the Blank]."

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                          • #14
                            Agree, GTLM's fate was cast circa 2016 when the GTLM program allowed Porsche to make a mockery of the whole by introducing a prototype car that would never see the light of day.
                            I am so glad the F1 executives saw the same forced GTLM entry method repeating itself and promptly showed Porsche the door.​
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                            • #15
                              I agree that Porsche was allowed to "fudge" the rules a bit by creating a "mid-engine" 911 RS, which was never really "replicated" in their street legal cars. The homologation "fudge" resulted in Porsche offering and producing the street-legal GT2 RS, which was still primarily a rear-engine design. The GT2 RS is no longer produced since GTLM and the comparable WEC went away, and it's now a GT3 RS.

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