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  • From Road & Track: Corvette proves its a performance bargain

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    A Corvette Grand Sport and the new 911 Carrera S post similar lap times in this battle. Despite one car costing around $50,000 less than the other.

    The C7-generation Chevrolet Corvette might be on its way out, making room for the mid-engine C8, but it's still proving its worth on track. German publication Sport Auto paired a Grand Sport against a new 992-generation 911 Carrera S, and the lap times are closer than you might expect.

    Sport Auto lapped both cars around Hockenheim's GP circuit, pulling a time of 1:53.3 for the 911 and a 1:54.1 for the Corvette Grand Sport. That's just 0.8 seconds apart. Considering the cars make similar power—443 hp for the 911 and 460 hp for the Corvette—that makes sense. Both send their power to the rear wheels, and both weigh within 50 lbs of one another—3482 lbs for the Corvette, 3382 for the 911. Both cars have eight-speed gearboxes, though the 911 has a fast-shifting dual-clutch, while the Grand Sport has to make due with a traditional torque-converter auto.

    The big difference here is the price. The Grand Sport starts at $65,900, while the new 911 Carrera Ss commands a $113,300 MSRP. For that amount of money, you could have a Grand Sport and a Camaro SS 1LE for daily driver duties. It's yet another comparison showing just how much capability you get for your money. The Corvette has always done well, even when up against the latest and greatest.
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  • #2
    Why not test the 80k c7 z06 on the track with the 113grand 992.?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JB View Post
      Why not test the 80k c7 z06 on the track with the 113grand 992.?
      It's from a German magazine, and in Germany the GS may be priced a lot closer to the 992, and the Z06 even more. Let's see what Google says:

      in Germany, a Z06 is $116,500 euros, or about $130,000! (That was 2017, but probably hasn't changed a lot.) The Z51 was 79,500 Euro, or almost $89,000. The GS was almost 95,000 euro, or $106,00 dollars.

      The 992 Carrera S goes for 83,000 euro in Germany, so it's actually cheaper than the GS over there, and way cheaper than a Z06. It's even cheaper than a Z51.
      Last edited by meyerweb; 05-19-2019, 08:45 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by JB View Post
        Why not test the 80k c7 z06 on the track with the 113grand 992.?
        Agreed the Z06 is much faster than the GS and would win the contest with the 992. Then the C7Z06 right now has the huge aftermarket support putting far past the 992.
        Then my new 2LZ, stage 2, PDR, Z06 was less than 80k making it the performance bargain over any car made in the world today . Then for 8 grand you are at 800 plus hp
        giving you Hyper car power and speed.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by meyerweb View Post

          It's from a German magazine, and in Germany the GS may be priced a lot closer to the 992, and the Z06 even more. Let's see what Google says:

          in Germany, a Z06 is $116,500 euros, or about $130,000! (That was 2017, but probably hasn't changed a lot.) The Z51 was 79,500 Euro, or almost $89,000. The GS was almost 95,000 euro, or $106,00 dollars.

          The 992 Carrera S goes for 83,000 euro in Germany, so it's actually cheaper than the GS over there, and way cheaper than a Z06. It's even cheaper than a Z51.
          Great info meyerweb. $130,000 for a Z06 in Germany. What would the free trade adjusted price be?
          Last edited by Boomer; 05-19-2019, 04:07 PM. Reason: Z06

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          • #6
            The import duty on imported cars there is 10%. So figure about $119K without the tariff. And I believe that the sales price of cars in the EU includes tax, which is not included in the price of cars sold here.

            But I think the biggest factor is the cost of making a car that sells in very small numbers conform to EU regulations. Porsche sells 8000 to 9000 911's a year in the US. GM sold a whopping 613 Corvettes in all of Europe in 2017 (almost 800 each year in 2015 and 2016) so the marginal cost per car of meeting the foreign market's regs is much higher for GM than for Porsche.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
              The import duty on imported cars there is 10%. So figure about $119K without the tariff. And I believe that the sales price of cars in the EU includes tax, which is not included in the price of cars sold here.

              But I think the biggest factor is the cost of making a car that sells in very small numbers conform to EU regulations. Porsche sells 8000 to 9000 911's a year in the US. GM sold a whopping 613 Corvettes in all of Europe in 2017 (almost 800 each year in 2015 and 2016) so the marginal cost per car of meeting the foreign market's regs is much higher for GM than for Porsche.
              Great info again. Lets hope for standardized "market regs". That 119 price would probably sell more and help make up for some of that additional reg burden, but not enough. If the consumer wanted a Corvette, there would be more than 613 sold in Europe.
              Last edited by Boomer; 05-19-2019, 07:12 PM. Reason: clarity

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              • #8
                Originally posted by merweb
                Some of it is certainly prejudice, but probably no worse than the "I bought the A8 because it's made in America and the M7 is built in Mexico..." attitude of some American car buyers.
                Not accusing anyone of prejudice, but is it not ironic that the overall issues that have been having with 2015+ C7 trans, have been with the A8, not with the M7.
                Last edited by John; 05-19-2019, 07:44 PM.
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