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  • Will There be Prayer/Demand for Return of the discontinued FE


    The C8 sounds lean and mean and will be loved like crazy. It is a different sound . TheC7 will be missed. AS soon as it's gone folks will start moaning for the return of the FE, ever how much the ME is loved.

    How strong will be the demand for a continuation of a form of the FE "traditional Vette". "The Traditional"? How loud will it grow. How long will it last. It going to happen! The word will be "Traditional Corvette" or "??". But it will be. What response. What opportunities. 60 years?
    Last edited by SheepDog; 04-28-2019, 09:23 AM.

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    If the ME has a starting price in the high $70's or more, there will be a strong market / demand for an entry level FE Corvette. If GM positions the base ME in the mid $60's as many hope and predict, I believe the FE configuration will be gone forever. In my opinion it's all about market and price positioning.
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      It is well known that it is the end of the line for the FE Corvette. Yet the dealers have almost 10,000 of them, big discounts, and loyalty programs for even more savings. And even deeper price cutting may come soon.

      Therefore, at least among those willing to buy a car at this time, there is no demand to get one last FE car before they go away. Unless the ME is a major disappointment, those looking for a brand new FE Corvette will have to settle for a Camaro.
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        Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob View Post
        It is well known that it is the end of the line for the FE Corvette. Yet the dealers have almost 10,000 of them, big discounts, and loyalty programs for even more savings. And even deeper price cutting may come soon.

        Therefore, at least among those willing to buy a car at this time, there is no demand to get one last FE car before they go away. Unless the ME is a major disappointment, those looking for a brand new FE Corvette will have to settle for a Camaro.

        I enjoy your comments. Still chuckling at the one about 07.18.19 and good it was not 20 instead of 19.


        True . It is well known. Was also well known that Mayweather and many, many more retired for good. But they were later back at it again. Start a list of the "It is well known" facts that were reversed and endings that resumed . It would be a very long list. Remember the guy who said " you won't have me to kick around anymore? Would be a very long list. Rank the suspects by a probability order. Where does the FE rank ?

        Uncertainty is a probability puzzle and that's what the future of FE Vette is. Uncertainty and irreducible probability. It's non linear. Everything changes in the people involved and the environment . Guess the electric tomorrow may moot it. The engine may end up under the floor.
        Last edited by SheepDog; 04-28-2019, 01:13 PM.

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          Would you be rushing out to buy a C7 when the C8 is looming less then 3 months away? I doubt it! The C8 will be a higher priced car and is certainly some impetus for GM to continue to offer a lower entry priced FE (GT) vehicle.
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            There are still people who hate the C7 because it doesn't have round taillights. That didn't motivate GM to bring back round taillights. The sales they lost to those people they more than made up for with the younger buyers who took to the C7. I suspect the C8 will be similar. They'll lose some sales to people who say "Corvettes should have the engine in front!" but will gain many more from people who want a more modern automobile.
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              Yes it is called a Camaro.... The old girl (FE Corvette) is dead and buried. Not even on the GM radar--no money to and believe me it is very expensive process to start the supply chain back after production of parts has stopped. What is known as DMS is going to present itself which requires redesign which means money. To the old guard this is not comprehensible however would be a step backward for the flagship car. Nostalgia aside the C7 is a great machine I have a highly modified one but the ship sailed a LONG time ago for it. In another words GM made the call and it is done.

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                Originally posted by Busa Dave View Post
                Yes it is called a Camaro.... The old girl (FE Corvette) is dead and buried. Not even on the GM radar--no money to and believe me it is very expensive process to start the supply chain back after production of parts has stopped. What is known as DMS is going to present itself which requires redesign which means money. To the old guard this is not comprehensible however would be a step backward for the flagship car. Nostalgia aside the C7 is a great machine I have a highly modified one but the ship sailed a LONG time ago for it. In another words GM made the call and it is done.
                Camaro, the new girl might could do with a ****-job, a little saggy late.

                If the FE is truly guranteed finished , then. Which single 2019 ZR1 is the rarest, and most desirable. That may be a note worth car. Does it make or not make sense to order and hold a C7 that is specked to be unusual? For people who do that kind of thing and know what they are doing?

                Is that what will be taking place in these last months. Does that give importance to the last day for factory Orders?
                Last edited by SheepDog; 04-28-2019, 07:58 PM.

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                  Originally posted by tooold2race View Post
                  If the ME has a starting price in the high $70's or more, there will be a strong market / demand for an entry level FE Corvette. If GM positions the base ME in the mid $60's as many hope and predict, I believe the FE configuration will be gone forever. In my opinion it's all about market and price positioning.
                  The C8 will start significantly below the high $70K’s. IMO, it will be lower than the high $6K0’s.
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                  • #10
                    I introduced myself to a really nice couple at the BASH, of course my asking them if they knew about MECF. They did not, but gladly took my business card. However, the meat of this story is that they, like so many here, were/are in a quandary as to whether to get a C7 GS now with the great discounts, or wait until the C8 came out 7.18.19.

                    Along the lines of many posts above, I first said that I have personal friends in your same situation right now, that other friends have just bought a 2019 C7, others are 100% committed to buying a C8, and yet my last last group of friends are those who are going to wait until July 18th before they make up their minds. I assured this wonderful couple that if they did not like the C8, that they will have, nationwide roughly 10,000 nicely-discounted C7’s to choose from the morning of July 19th. I also asked them to ask themselves one question...

                    What if you pulled the trigger now, bought your great C7, but on July 18th when you saw it minus its tons of current camo, saw its interior and learned its improved specs, that you were sorry you had not waited.

                    They said that all this info was very helpful info, and that they had more thinking to do. Good for them — for their is “no one size fits all to this quandary of whether to get a C7 or at least wait until 7.18.19 before making up their minds.”
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                    • #11
                      Welcome back BusaDave!
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                      • #12
                        And i thought the C7 might be my "last" vette... until now! Having enjoyed it the past 4 years, as some wise people here have said, you don't know what tomorrow brings, enjoy the day! or "Carpe Diem!"

                        Question for John - Now that you have seen it in person, how would you place the size of the C8 vs the C7? I realize the proportions are completely different, given the very cabin forward design, but looking at the video from the bash, i still can't help to think that it looks/feels smaller than the C7. What is your overall take?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Milliwatt Rob View Post
                          It is well known that it is the end of the line for the FE Corvette. Yet the dealers have almost 10,000 of them, big discounts, and loyalty programs for even more savings. And even deeper price cutting may come soon.

                          Therefore, at least among those willing to buy a car at this time, there is no demand to get one last FE car before they go away. Unless the ME is a major disappointment, those looking for a brand new FE Corvette will have to settle for a Camaro.
                          Mike is still selling C7s, and I know someone that is near and dear to my heart, an awesome guy, one of the best I know, who just bought a 2019 Z06 M7

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                          • #14
                            Well the guys who did the C7 five or 6 years ago are doing the C8. They are highly motivated to do very well. The C8 will probably be very far beyond the prior car. So people who buy now will enjoy now until July. There will be second, third and 4th guess, head shaking and remorse starting July 18 if they see see what they just-got-to-have. A lot o folks, not all maybe, Will see just that too. What they long waited for. Unless they intend to get both. Ed Wellborn knows what is coming and has said that he can not wait to get one..

                            Same remorse associated dilemma with not waiting for the C8 Z06. The Z06 styling and offerings will be more advanced. C8 is holding something back until Z06 time. Holding back enough to trigger trade-ups.And the novel-for-corvette DOHC maybe flat crank. This thing will probably make the Porsche GT3 crane its neck to see what all the fuss is about.
                            Last edited by SheepDog; 04-28-2019, 10:14 PM.

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                              Originally posted by SheepDog View Post
                              Well the guys who did the C7 five or 6 years ago are doing the C8. They are highly motivated to do very well. The C8 will probably be very far beyond the prior car. So people who buy now will enjoy now until July. There will be second, third and 4th guess, head shaking and remorse starting July 18 if they see see what they just-got-to-have. A lot o folks, not all maybe, Will see just that too. What they long waited for. Unless they intend to get both. Ed Wellborn knows what is coming and has said that he can not wait to get one..

                              Same remorse associated dilemma with not waiting for the C8 Z06. The Z06 styling and offerings will be more advanced. C8 is holding something back until Z06 time. Holding back enough to trigger trade-ups.And the novel-for-corvette DOHC maybe flat crank. This thing will probably make the Porsche GT3 crane its neck to see what all the fuss is about.
                              Couldn't agree more that people are driven just as you describe, and the car will also be a hit.

                              But, not everyone And I"m not sure why it's important that there be a "group think" on the subject.

                              I"m a car guy, I worked in the automotive publishing industry for a long time, and designed/redesigned/launched over 70 automotive enthusiast sites in my career, many that people on this site probably frequent every day/week/month. I like all sorts of cars, and right now, I like owning a C7 Z06. Will I get a C8? who knows. Maybe I'll throw a blower on my truck Maybe I'll go find a '74 VW super beetle and restore it (I learned how to drive a manual on that car in the mid '80s).

                              What I do know is that I'll enjoy others' road to the C8 vicariously for now through my participation in this site, or until or when or if I feel like getting a C8. Could be as soon as they're available, could be some other time, who knows. Time will tell..

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