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    The ZR1 only ranked 11 out of 12 vehicles in Motor Trend best drivers car test.
    There is a madness to my method!

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    What's worse is the Civic Type-R with a 2 litre pulled it off.
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    • #3
      Motor Trend? OMG!!!
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      • #4
        I think this demonstrates the difficulty of controlling 750 HP in a front engine, RWD car.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by meyerweb View Post
          I think this demonstrates the difficulty of controlling 750 HP in a front engine, RWD car.
          I agree, and think that we don’t have street tires that can hook up more than 500 hp reliably. Power without control is useless. I raced on slicks for 40 years, and my opinion is that street tires are a joke as far as traction, compared to the real deal.
          but wait, there’s more, GM and others know this, and added electronic nannies to reduce power to a level the tires can actually use.
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          • #6
            Agreed. I've run slicks on a race bike, and the difference was astounding. That was a long time ago, and today's street tires (car and bike) are certainly much better, but when you need to make the tires last for more than a few hundred miles there are necessary trade-offs. OTOH, the Michelins on today's Corvettes are better than the race tires of 20 or 30 years ago.

            As Carroll Shelby said, "There's no such thing as too much horsepower. Just not enough traction."
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            • #7
              Did all of the competitors to the ZR1 run on tires that are available from the factory on that model when it is bought new? NO

              Did the ZR1 run on tires that are standard when the car leaves the factory? YES

              There were other factors at play that did not result in a level playing field. I am not renewing my MotorTrend as a result of how this test was run, with different practices and standards among the test proce3ss.

              Not saying that the ZR1 would have finished first had all been done as it should have IMO, just that there was no way it could have finished first as things were executed.

              Another major takeaway, that overpowering a front engined, rear wheel only driven car is why Corvette is going to a mid-engine configuration. Hell, there are so many times that I have to severely modulate the throttle in my “only” 650 HP/TQ Z06, for if not, tire spin is constant.
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              • #8
                And that is why we are buying a ME vette. Huge improvement over FE
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